Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Posted (edited)

Has anyone gone about installing parts from Next Gen Drivetrain for the 10L1000?  They make both an upgraded valve body assembly as well as a valve body upgrade kit.  I gave them a call, they stated these parts are plug and play with both the gas and diesel 10L1000's and don't involve any sort of tuning.  I'm thinking they could help with getting ahead of potential valve body issues that have been popping up?

 

Only caveat is that they aren't OEM approved so they can void warranty (assuming the dealer realizes these parts have been installed) so this will probably hold many of us back for now, but could be an option for those who's warranty has expired.  Parts aren't cheap ($800 for the upgrade kit, $3500 for the complete valve body), but everything with these trucks is expensive and ideally would help prevent more significant transmission damage/issues.

 

https://nextgendiesel.com/collections/10l1000-transmissions-transmission-parts/products/project-carbon®-10l1000-high-pressure-diy-valve-body-upgrade-kit?variant=43582624333997

 

https://nextgendiesel.com/collections/10l1000-transmissions-transmission-parts/products/10l1000-project-carbon™-high-performance-valve-body-oil-pump

 

 

Edited by AndrewF
  • Like 1
  • 2 weeks later...
  • 3 weeks later...
Posted

I just watched the FabRats video and had to be impressed with how he did this while his left arm was in a cast.

 

He made it look pretty easy, although he is on a lift and not on his back. I really hope this fixes the issues for him.

Posted

General Motors should be embarrassed and ashamed of what they are producing lately. Why should anyone spend the kind of money that they are charging for these trucks and then have to spend close to a thousand more without any labor just to fix what should never have been released to the public in the first place. I have been a line mechanic with GM since 1978 and have never seen such garbage being put out. We have trucks lined up waiting for valve bodies that people cant use and are still making payments on. We cant keep up with the engine failures and oil leaks and transmission problems that are never ending. Just had to vent a little.

  • Like 2
  • Thanks 1
  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

took my 2022 AT4 3500 in for an engine oil leak and a torque converter leak on July 11...  i was told truck was ready for pick up July 16.. picked up truck and transmission was clunking and not at all the same smooth transmission i brought in... 2 days later told it needed a valve body now.. the dealer called me on September 25,, truck is ready, picked it up on Sept 27 drove 2 or 3 kms before it started acting up again. then went into limp mode. drove back to dealer. they called later that day saying new valve body was faulty.. they then said i would have to wait  the same as the first time the valve body failed as they can't put me on a priority list..I wish we had the Lemon Law in Canada..

  • Like 1

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Forum Statistics

    250.4k
    Total Topics
    2.7m
    Total Posts
  • Member Statistics

    342,759
    Total Members
    8,960
    Most Online
    DM22
    Newest Member
    DM22
    Joined
  • Who's Online   4 Members, 0 Anonymous, 1,640 Guests (See full list)

  • Latest Articles

  • Posts

    • Did have to make 1 modification because of the WeatherTech rear mud flaps and that was needing 3 longer screws than what came with the install package. 😄
    • Picked up the liners yesterday. Installed passenger side WITHOUT any modifications. All mounting holes lined up perfectly. Rain is interfering today with drivers side. Very Happy! Will add pics when finished
    • As a matter of amusement I’ll leave this conversation with this. Do you beat the government average fuel estimate? Statistics are a guide to me. Not a rule. Someone once said I have to have the last word. If true and possible may be. I’ll blame that on working in a family business.
    • That is a fair point, and I agree that trying to log “everything in the truck” would be the wrong direction.   There are a lot of modules and a lot of traffic. If the product became a full-truck datalogger, the amount of data would get huge very quickly, and most owners would never use it.   I think the first useful version would need to be narrow: - powertrain-side event evidence - selected high-value parameters - communication / voltage / reset events - pre/post event window - short report first, raw log only as backup   One distinction I should make is between active OBD/PID polling and passive bus capture. If you are polling PIDs through OBD, then yes: the more parameters you request, the lower the effective sample rate becomes, and you are adding diagnostic traffic to a vehicle that is already busy running itself. With passive CAN capture, the recorder is not asking all the modules for data. It is listening to traffic that is already on the bus. So it does not consume vehicle bus bandwidth in the same way that a scan tool polling hundreds of PIDs would. But your point still applies in a different way.   Even if passive capture does not add bus traffic, the recorder still has limits: - processing rate - storage rate - timestamp accuracy - decoder workload - event filtering - report size - user attention span   So the answer cannot be “log everything and let the user figure it out.” The product would need to store enough raw evidence to be useful, but only decode, graph, and present the important parts around the event.   A practical report should probably show: - what triggered the capture - how much pre/post data was preserved - which selected parameters changed - how those values compared to baseline - whether the same pattern happened before - whether any voltage, reset, bus-off, lost-message, or communication fault occurred - selected graphs around the event - raw data only as supporting evidence   So I agree with you. More data is not automatically better. The real product is the reduction from raw data into a useful event report.
    • That makes sense, and I agree with most of that.   I think the product would need both: 1. a default powertrain template, so it is useful out of the box; 2. user-selected priority parameters, so the owner or shop can choose what they want to see first.   Different users are going to care about different things. One owner may care about oil pressure and voltage. Another may care about misfire trend, AFM/DFM behavior, or U-codes. A shop may want communication events and repeatability first. Your baseline point is probably the most important one. Raw data is not very useful unless the report can show what normal looked like for that vehicle under similar conditions.   The way I would think about it is: - start with a basic known-good baseline - learn normal behavior for that specific vehicle over time - allow the event to be overlaid against baseline - show whether the event was a one-time spike or a repeatable pattern - provide a simple severity level, but with clear limits on what that severity means   For example, early severity could be something like: - Info: event captured, no obvious abnormal pattern - Watch: value moved outside baseline, but not repeated - Warning: repeatable abnormal pattern under similar conditions - Critical: communication loss, voltage drop, bus-off, reset, or severe repeated event   I would not want the first version to say “replace this part.” That would be overclaiming unless there is repair-confirmed data behind it. It would be more honest to say “this pattern deserves inspection.”   On the OBD port question, I think OBD absolutely has a role. OBD is probably the right place for: - DTCs - freeze frame - VIN - calibration information - normal scan-tool parameters - Mode 6 / enhanced diagnostic data if available The reason I am still looking at an ECM-side recorder is that the failure may happen before anyone connects a scan tool. If the owner plugs in a scanner after the event, the pre-event evidence may already be gone unless the ECU happened to save it. So I do not see this as “OBD versus ECM-side.” I see it more like: - ECM-side recorder: always armed, rolling buffer, event evidence - OBD/DLC companion: DTCs, freeze frame, VIN, calibration, normal scan data - phone/cloud: status, notes, upload, report generation, notifications   I agree that phone connection and push notifications would be useful. I just would not want the phone or cloud connection to be required for capture. The recorder should save the event locally even if the phone is not connected. The phone should help with event marking, download, notes, upload, alerts, and report viewing.   For a default GM V8 event report, would this list make sense? - RPM - calculated load / MAP - throttle position - vehicle speed - gear / torque converter state if available - coolant temperature - oil pressure - oil temperature if available - battery voltage - commanded AFM/DFM state if available - actual AFM/DFM state if available - misfire counters / roughness by cylinder if available - fuel trims - relevant U-codes / communication events - bus-off / lost periodic message / module reset / voltage drop events Which of those would you remove, and what would you add?
  • GM-Trucks.com Clubs

  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...