Fram Oil Filter Alert !!!

[Collector]

I have posted this before on other sites, figured I might as well save a few engines on this site as well. Check out the oil filter study here:

 

http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html

 

How about this email from a Allied Signal Production engineer(can be found on the same site posted above)

 

"

Russell,

I obtained great satisfaction from reading your oil filter survey.

 

I worked for two years as the oil-filter production line engineer in

an Allied-Signal FRAM facility and I can confirm every bad thing you

have said about FRAM automotive filters. That's from the horse's

mouth, as it were.

 

I'm also a quality engineer and can confirm that FRAM applies no

quality control whatsoever to any of the characteristics for which we

buy oil filters. I frequently saw filter designs which were barely

capable of meeting J806. Many of FRAM's designs will block and go to

bypass after trying to filter very little contamination. There were

often leakage paths at the paper end discs when these were not

properly centered on the elements. Some designs had the pleats so

tightly packed against the center tube that they would block off in no

time. I had discovered that the FRAM HP1 that I had been buying for

about $20 Cdn was EXACTLY the same as a PH8 inside - the only

difference being a heavier can - no advantages in flow capacity. The

paper filtration media was of apparently poor quality and the process

of curing the paper resin was very inconsistent - elements would range

from visibly burnt to white. FRAM's marketers admitted that there was

just about no way the public could ever prove that an oil filter

contributed, or did not prevent, engine damage. The only thing FRAM

tested for was can burst strength. Another problem that they have from

time to time is in threading the filter base - often there are strands

of metal left behind on a poorly formed thread.

 

I have not used a FRAM filter since I started working there. Their

claims are entirely and completely marketing bull****.

 

If people really want to protect their engines, a good air filter is

vital (which excludes FRAM from that list as well) and a combination

of one depth and one full-flow hydraulic filter, together in parallel,

will do the job of filtration to perfection.

 

Thanks for doing a great job in trying to get the truth out! You can

quote me anytime. "

 

You guys better think twice about running their crap on your rides.

[MS3DALE]

I've never used any FRAM filter at all and I'm glad I haven't!!!!

Nothing but AC-Delco filters for me (Except for a K&N air filter)

[asepgrad98]

Nothing but AC-Delco filters for me

 

I used to be like that untill i bought a "Made in Mexico" one. Now i jsut buy Wix

[MS3DALE]

Yea,You do have to watch where they were made at,All the ones we get in here at the dealership are made in the USA so I'm OK there.

[MTRMAN5]

Several months ago I purchased two Fram oil filters from Wal-Mart for my GMC trucks 04 Yukon and 05 GMC Z-71 I noticed that the oil in the Yukon was going down, checking under the truck found that the Fram was leaking, replaced with A/C and now no leak. So I can attest that Fram oil filters have problems.

[ericag02]

I only use Wix filters, apparently I'm glad I do.

[IDGBZ71]

I only use A/C, K&N or mobile1 filters and wix

[Black-Z71]

I only use AC Delco in my truck...but I guess I won't be using Fram in my Mustang anymore...

[hoorders]

These sorts of 'preferrable' filters or whatever other product is being compared is very subjective.............Ive used Fram in all my vehicles for the last 20yrs and never had a problem with the filters or problems due to the filter...........maybe I've been lucky.........or maybe they aren't so bad..............sure there might be better filters but that doesn't mean Fram is a god awefull filter.......just my 2 cents worth......

[bdr1995]

I have heard all these storys before but ,I have a 1995 chevy pick-up with 295,000 miles on it that would say otherwise.Always used fram and never touch the motor. Just my story

[amar]

You guys are saying Fram is low a quality and you use K&N air filter? K&N is near the bottom of the barrel. Yes it flows well but it dosent filter well which is why it flows well. Do a search online about airfilter comparison. WIX ranks top quality on air and oil filters.

 

Check out this site

 

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest1.htm

[pm26]

You guys are saying Fram is low a quality and you use K&N air filter? K&N is near the bottom of the barrel.  Yes it flows well but it dosent filter well which is why it flows well.  Do a search online about airfilter comparison. WIX ranks top quality on air and oil filters.

 

Check out this site

 

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest1.htm

 

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And it is for these reasons that I do not use any K&N filters. As you said, they flow well, but do not filter that well.