"big Block 5.7" Tundras Fast

[Andrew55]

I love the toyota guys that call their tundra a big block. My wifes uncle has one and took it for a spin. i wanted to see if my truck was faster so i drove the tundra small crew cab 2 wheel drive and let my wife drive my truck being a 2007 nbs 6.0 max. yes the tundra does take off a little quicker and pulled about 1/2 of a fender but from about 40 mph on the 6.0 spanked a$$ when i hit 70 mph my truck was about 3/4 of a truck lenghth ahead and thats with a girl driving. All of this being done on a country road. With a tune on the v-max's they are hard to beat as far as 1/2 ton trucks only one i would be worried about racing now is the new 6.2. Just wanted to share. gotta love the gm horsepower!

[Visegrip117]

You raced a stock 5.7 tundra against a tuned 6.0 VMAX? And only beat in by 3/4 of a length?

 

I thought the Vmax was faster than that. Oh well....... Congrats on the win for the home team.

[huero626]

Do you have a extended or crew cab, are you tuned or stock?

[punmax]

Do you have a extended or crew cab, are you tuned or stock?

 

His truck is tuned (Nelson), and it's a crew.

[250motorsportz]

I raced a friend's Tundra in my Dad's Escalade 6.0L - K&N Intake, Magnaflow Exhaust, tuned with a mild cam. And killlled it off the line. Im not sure exactly by how much ... but damn I'd say a couple car lengths for sure.

[AK FiveO]

I've taken 2 of the new 5.7 Tundras from the light with my "Tweeqd" 09 5.3L Sierra. Pulled-em both from the light ...both times they "backed-off" within an 1/8 mile, knowing they had no chance of catching me! Good times!

[huero626]

I've taken 2 of the new 5.7 Tundras from the light with my "Tweeqd" 09 5.3L Sierra. Pulled-em both from the light ...both times they "backed-off" within an 1/8 mile, knowing they had no chance of catching me! Good times!

 

Was it a double cab tundra, I find it hard to believe that 5.3L Silverados hang with 5.7L Tundras. Only the 6.0l & 6.2L should be able to beat the 5.7L Tundras.

[Matt_]

I've taken 2 of the new 5.7 Tundras from the light with my "Tweeqd" 09 5.3L Sierra. Pulled-em both from the light ...both times they "backed-off" within an 1/8 mile, knowing they had no chance of catching me! Good times!

 

Was it a double cab tundra, I find it hard to believe that 5.3L Silverados hang with 5.7L Tundras. Only the 6.0l & 6.2L should be able to beat the 5.7L Tundras.

 

 

actually, stock for stock the new 5.3L/6spd combo is as fast as or quicker than the 6.0/4spd VMax. so a tuned version could hang with a tundra 5.7... not so sure about destroying it though. i guess it would depend greatly on the configuration and gear ratios.

 

in stock configuration your only chance to beat one of them in a heads up race is the 6.2L/6spd which is a mid 14s truck.

[huero626]

I've taken 2 of the new 5.7 Tundras from the light with my "Tweeqd" 09 5.3L Sierra. Pulled-em both from the light ...both times they "backed-off" within an 1/8 mile, knowing they had no chance of catching me! Good times!

 

Was it a double cab tundra, I find it hard to believe that 5.3L Silverados hang with 5.7L Tundras. Only the 6.0l & 6.2L should be able to beat the 5.7L Tundras.

 

 

actually, stock for stock the new 5.3L/6spd combo is as fast as or quicker than the 6.0/4spd VMax. so a tuned version could hang with a tundra 5.7... not so sure about destroying it though. i guess it would depend greatly on the configuration and gear ratios.

 

in stock configuration your only chance to beat one of them in a heads up race is the 6.2L/6spd which is a mid 14s truck.

 

 

 

The 5.3l with 6 speed maybe can hang with a V-Max that isn't tuned, a tuned Vortec Max will take out a 5.3L. I mean my 2006 5.3L was fast but not as fast as my 6.0l, the 5.3l may hang with a crew max but not a double cab 5.7l Tundra.

[Matt_]

you're not comparing apples to apples.

 

your 2006 had the 4spd trans. the NEW trucks that have the 5.3L and 6spd trans can and will hang with a stock VMax 6.0. with that said, id bet that a TUNED 5.3L/6spd would beat a stock VMax (just as you said a tuned vmax would beat a stock 5.3.....thats kind of a given.)

 

a more interesting race would be a tuned 5.3L/6spd Vs a tuned 6.0vmax..... id put my money on the 6.0 in that case just because i think they're more restricted in stock form than the 5.3 is.

 

concurrently, i dont see a stock vmax or a stock 5.3/6spd hanging with a stock 5.7 tundra... but sure a tuned version of either would have a chance, but is that a fair race? imo bragging about that is a little fanboyish.... my $.02

[huero626]

you're not comparing apples to apples.

 

your 2006 had the 4spd trans. the NEW trucks that have the 5.3L and 6spd trans can and will hang with a stock VMax 6.0. with that said, id bet that a TUNED 5.3L/6spd would beat a stock VMax (just as you said a tuned vmax would beat a stock 5.3.....thats kind of a given.)

 

a more interesting race would be a tuned 5.3L/6spd Vs a tuned 6.0vmax..... id put my money on the 6.0 in that case just because i think they're more restricted in stock form than the 5.3 is.

 

concurrently, i dont see a stock vmax or a stock 5.3/6spd hanging with a stock 5.7 tundra... but sure a tuned version of either would have a chance, but is that a fair race? imo bragging about that is a little fanboyish.... my $.02

 

 

A stock Vortec Max tune is really bad, I wouldn't be shocked losing to a 5.3l with a 6 speed if the Vortec Max is stock. My stock tune has a four second delay with a lot of TM and speed limiter set at 92mph. I do agree that a stock 5.3l or 6.0l would lose to a 5.7l Tundra. But remove everything in the Vortec Max and the truck is a completely different truck. I guess the 6 speed auto really helps out the newer GM trucks, but how can you beef up a 6 speed automatic? That is what I like about my 4l70, that there is available parts to make it stronger.

[Stevens03]

I'm trying to wrap my head around this... Taking the tundra out of the equation because you can't fix ugly.

 

Matt, you say a 5.3 6-speed stock will beat a stock 6.0 4-speed?!?!? When you drive them back to back, they are night and day with power. The 6-speed might get the 4-speed out of the hole, but after that, the 6.0 is going to pull SO much harder and pass the 5.3 up

 

I drove a 6.2 6-speed this past weekend, and that had the NHT 3.73 gear end, and quite frankly wasn't that impressed compared to my vmax with diablo. I guess if you remove the diablo tune, it would have been much different maybe, but still wasn't that impressed. Even the sales guy thought my truck ran just as good. The 6-speed may get you moving out of the hole faster, but after that.. it comes down to power.

 

I know the 6-speed gears are closer together too than the 4-speed, but theres quite an HP/TQ difference between the 5.3 and 6.0 to well make up for the 6-speed out of the hole. I'd never agree that the 5.3 and 6.0 are that close.

 

JMO

[Bowtie2Sierra]

you're not comparing apples to apples.

 

your 2006 had the 4spd trans. the NEW trucks that have the 5.3L and 6spd trans can and will hang with a stock VMax 6.0. with that said, id bet that a TUNED 5.3L/6spd would beat a stock VMax (just as you said a tuned vmax would beat a stock 5.3.....thats kind of a given.)

 

a more interesting race would be a tuned 5.3L/6spd Vs a tuned 6.0vmax..... id put my money on the 6.0 in that case just because i think they're more restricted in stock form than the 5.3 is.

 

concurrently, i dont see a stock vmax or a stock 5.3/6spd hanging with a stock 5.7 tundra... but sure a tuned version of either would have a chance, but is that a fair race? imo bragging about that is a little fanboyish.... my $.02

 

I agree. Whether you like Toyota or not, the 5.7 is a mean powerplant and they deserve credit for that. The recent threads about beating Toyota's 5.7 is already getting old IMO.

[VMax2007]

I can't speak for the current 5.3 trucks. But I will tell you that my stock 2000 GMC Sierra ext cab with the 285 HP 5.3 would most definitely have smoked my 07 Vmax with the stock tune out of the hole. Before my tune(s), my truck would fall flat on it's face out of the hole, it was absolutely pathetic. Same when punching it from a roll, the hesitation/bog when downshifting was almost dangerous when changing lanes to pass or enter a faster lane with traffic.

 

I don't think it's unfair to compare a tuned GM 6.0 to a stock Toy 5.7 since Toyota uses far fewer nannies. It actually makes the comparison better IMO. It allows the motors to be compared, not the software.

[Matt_]

steven, i havent driven a new 5.3L with the 6spd. my opinion is based on performance figures published by companies like Truck Trend, not a butt dyno. the 0-60 and 1/4 mile times published for the newer 5.3L 6spds is on par and sometimes better than the 6.0 4spd.

 

but like jeff said, and i agree, the 6.0 is held back a lot in stock form....probably moreso than the 5.3L is. so tuned for tuned i would expect that the 6.0 would easily take the new 5.3/6spd, but thats just speculation on my part.