answer a trivia question

jcj6263 · April 29, 2005

did chevey make a 350 v6 engine in the early 1960,s which is now a v8 or was it a different size and also which vehicle were they put in. i think that is was only one year that they made it.

thanks jim

GM-Tech · April 29, 2005

Whether you want to ignore the facts or not is up to you.

Don't get your shorts in a bunch there, Snoman. Exactly where did I ignore facts? I don't particularly want to go over line by line what you said, I said, but if we feel it is necessary, I will. Personally, I have better things to do with my time.

I don't know every engine GM ever made and for what application and ya know what, I really don't care to. I provided a link to some information. You don't like the link, fine, go elsewhere and get your info.

snoman · April 29, 2005

Whether you want to ignore the facts or not is up to you.

Don't get your shorts in a bunch there, Snoman. Exactly where did I ignore facts? I don't particularly want to go over line by line what you said, I said, but if we feel it is necessary, I will. Personally, I have better things to do with my time.

I don't know every engine GM ever made and for what application and ya know what, I really don't care to. I provided a link to some information. You don't like the link, fine, go elsewhere and get your info.

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I do believe you are the one with panties in a bunch here because someone asked about V6's in old GM trucks and you did not provide the info on it I did which you did not know about which is okay but to try to discredit it does not make it right either. I guess those engines were before your time but they were not before mine and I remember them well and when I was in service in very early 70's uncle sam still had trucks using them and a lot older ones too with engine predating those V6's. There are a few of the newer engines particularly in cars that I am not up to speed on but I know all the old ones and even the old chevy 348's and 409's too.

GM-Tech · April 29, 2005

but to try to discredit it does not make it right either.

I don't understand where you read that I was trying to discredit you. Would you mind pointing that out?

redvett · April 29, 2005

Whether you want to ignore the facts or not is up to you.

Don't get your shorts in a bunch there, Snoman. Exactly where did I ignore facts? I don't particularly want to go over line by line what you said, I said, but if we feel it is necessary, I will. Personally, I have better things to do with my time.

I don't know every engine GM ever made and for what application and ya know what, I really don't care to. I provided a link to some information. You don't like the link, fine, go elsewhere and get your info.

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I do believe you are the one with panties in a bunch here because someone asked about V6's in old GM trucks and you did not provide the info on it I did which you did not know about which is okay but to try to discredit it does not make it right either. I guess those engines were before your time but they were not before mine and I remember them well and when I was in service in very early 70's uncle sam still had trucks using them and a lot older ones too with engine predating those V6's. There are a few of the newer engines particularly in cars that I am not up to speed on but I know all the old ones and even the old chevy 348's and 409's too.

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I worked for GM starting in the 60s and the GMC trucks got the V6 engine and the Chevy Trucks got the 250 & 292 ci L6. The V6 was also a Diesel V6 made that was used in farm equiptment and HD trucks.

And thats the way it was.

R Dogg 56 · April 29, 2005

GMC made five versions of a 305 ci V6 for their 1/2 ton pickups in 1960: A through E. The 305A and B were dropped from the line in 1962, the D was dropped in 1963, and the C and E versions went on for some time, I'm led to believe, before being replaced by the V8's.

Click here for more info on the GMC 305 V6.

Click here for more info on the Chevy V6.

I don't think Chevy had a V6 in their full size pickups until the debut of the 1978 200 ci (3.2L),the 229 ci (3.8L) in 1980, and the 4.3L (262 ci) in 1985. Before those, there were only I-4's, I-6's, and V8's.

***GM-Tech or other knowledgeable members: If I'm wrong on any of this, please correct me with the right info. Thanks!

GM-Tech · April 29, 2005

***GM-Tech or other knowledgeable members: If I'm wrong on any of this, please correct me with the right info. Thanks!

That's even before my time, so ya got me. When I get to work tomorrow, I'll post a link to an excellent page/site that has more information about GM engine history than you ever wanted to know.

snoman · April 29, 2005

GMC made five versions of a 305 ci V6 for their 1/2 ton pickups in 1960: A through E. The 305A and B were dropped from the line in 1962, the D was dropped in 1963, and the C and E versions went on for some time, I'm led to believe, before being replaced by the V8's.

Click here for more info on the GMC 305 V6.

Click here for more info on the Chevy V6.

I don't think Chevy had a V6 in their full size pickups until the debut of the 1978 200 ci (3.2L),the 229 ci (3.8L) in 1980, and the 4.3L (262 ci) in 1985. Before those, there were only I-4's, I-6's, and V8's.

***GM-Tech or other knowledgeable members: If I'm wrong on any of this, please correct me with the right info. Thanks!

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GMC also had a 351 (over close to that as I have misplaced my manual) in pickups because I have seen them and they also had a 40x (not sure of size) and a 478 V6 that was used in heavy trucks. (they even had a V12 that was two V6 mated together end to end) I never saw a V6 in a old chevy P/U, only GMC's and chevy had a the 235 (stove bolt) and the 261 since early 50's until about 63 or so and then they had the new style 230, 250 and 292 all striaght sixes and they also had a 194 that was used in a cars in early 60' (Chevy II) and even a 153 4 banger up until about 69 in the Chevy II/Nova. As a further side note, when GM came out with the new generation I6, (230/250) they sold the rights to the 235 to Toyota in mid 60's which used a slighty modified version of the 235 in land cruiser for many many years. Also, GM had a 215 cu aluminum V8 in early mid 60's used in oldsmobiles (cutlass and such) that was later sold to british lealand for use in the land rover for many years. A friend of mines sister had a olds with that engine in it back then and it ran well but tended to have oil consumption problems.

GM-Tech · April 29, 2005

GM engine list/history

snoman · April 29, 2005

GM engine list/history

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Not a bad list but is seem to be car biased because it does not mention the whole family of big V6 GM had in 60's for trucks or the V12 that was two V6's mated together. Check out the lnk below for more info on these engines

GMC V6's & V12

GM-Tech · April 29, 2005

I wouldn't say it's car biased, more like personal vehicle biased. What were those engines you mentioned used in? Big trucks?

snoman · April 29, 2005

I wouldn't say it's car biased, more like personal vehicle biased. What were those engines you mentioned used in? Big trucks?

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They used up to the 351 in P/U's and such and they shared the same block so it is possible to put any of them in a older P/U and a 60's truck with a 401 or 478 would be somthing. They used the 478 in dumptrucks until late 60's or so because I have seen 478's in tandum trucks. They had great torque and would lug down to almost nothing with strong pull. If you click on some of the links at the bottom of the link I sent, it tells some of the applications of the engines. 305's in GMC pickups were fairly common in the early to mid 60's but I do not recall seeing one in one after the body style change in 67 though they may have existed. Never saw one in a chevy P/U that came that way though they may have. THe V12 was two 351's hand fitted/bolted together with a strange dual distributor that is pictured at that site.

GM-Tech · April 29, 2005

What YOU can put an engine in and what GM put the engine in is not the same thing. I don't believe the information on that link I provided was intended to list every engine GM ever made for any application. I'm sure they make engines for huge trucks, maybe even tanks in WWII (and now?) and so on.

snoman · April 29, 2005

What YOU can put an engine in and what GM put the engine in is not the same thing. I don't believe the information on that link I provided was intended to list every engine GM ever made for any application. I'm sure they make engines for huge trucks, maybe even tanks in WWII (and now?) and so on.

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See I was around and driving back then and they did put the 305 and 351 V6's in GMC P/U's because a saw them and drove a few. Whether you want to ignore the facts or not is up to you. Before GM combined light truck lines sometime after 67 the GMC and Chevy light truck came off different lines. It was a well know fact back then that GMC were consdiered to be a bit better than chevy P/U's because of different engine and axle option before then. Lot of people like yourself assume that GMC's and chevies from that era had same engine options when they did not. (there are not many pre 67 GMC P/U's left out there today to prove otherwise) Those old big block V6's were about bulletproof in hard work and were low enough in compression that you could use the cheapest gas and never worry about it fussing. GM's cost cutting and combining lines eventually killed them along with the availbility of the modern big block "rat" that came out in 65 and was later offered in detuned truck versions of 366 and 427 and later 454. It was cheaper to use those than to keep building the V6's though they survived until the 70's in some applications.