IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE

2HeavyChevy · July 30, 2006

Hi everyone I would like to know if its possible to put Nav system in a 02 if so what do I need to make it a reality I know I have to replace the dash face and

temp controls but im not sure what needs to be rewired

duramaxHD · July 31, 2006

short answer, no

ScottyBoy · July 31, 2006

Strictly as far a mounting, its much more inloved than just the dash face. The entire insde of the dash and all the mounting points are different. Even if it is possible, all the parts required would easliy triple the cost of an aftermarket unit. So it would be MUCH easier and much cheaper to install an aftermarket nav system such as pioneer or alpine, or such.

OnyxMAX · August 1, 2006

i like my hand held better. it wont give me directions like tom tom but i can take it on my bike, on the boat ,on a hike, to the deer stand ect...about 300 total after add ons like 3 sd cards the maping cd ect. and a mount for the truck and boat.

my cousin hates the nav in his MDX it's 5 years out of date and acura wants about 500 to update the system with stuff new resturants ect...

2HeavyChevy · August 2, 2006

I want it to look stock

gltech · August 4, 2006

At one time, my intent was to install the Nav in a 2001. I ended up buying a 2003. It can be done, it's just that it would be hard. Electronically speaking, the radio would need to be able to talk to something via the Class II serial data bus that makes it think it's in an 03-06 vehicle. I work with electronics and vehicle serial communications (for somebody other than GM) and a "box" could be built that does this very thing. It's just that the builder would have to know the specifics of the data interface (which I doubt are available). One guy mentions a "keep-alive" box they have where he works that is exactly what I am talking about:

http://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46670

Once you had such a device that let the radio function normally, then you would have to deal with the completely different amp/speaker wiring and dash format of the pre-03s vs. the 03-06s.

I thought one time about trying to design one of these "keep-alive" devices. I searched the web extensively, but could never find any specs for the Class II serial bus. If anyone has any related info, please let me know -- I still might give it a go.

Glenn

2HeavyChevy · August 6, 2006

What would happen if you changed the harness on the radio

2HeavyChevy · August 6, 2006

Will this help gltech

http://www.aa1car.com/library/can_systems.htm

duramaxHD · August 6, 2006

I dont think that will help unfortuantly.

the problem isnt the mismatched harnesses. The problem is the underlying databus/netowrk communication that the 03+ radios/nav radios use. It does not exist in the correct form in the 2001-2002 trucks. There is no real PMM (power mode master) signal on the Class II data bus in 2001-2002 trucks, so likely if you hooked up a 03+ radio, it woudlnt even turn on.

CAN and Class II are different databusses with different operating characteristics. Class II operates in a star network pattern with one wire held at 5 volts nominal (or is it 7 volts?). It is otherwise known as J1850 VPW.

CAN on the other hand uses two wires (a high and low) terminated at the ends by a 120ohm resistor. Honestly I think the easiest way to do this is two run a secondary 03+ BCM right along side the 2001-2002 BCM. I have a box like this half built and it works on the bench, but I need to test it in a 2001-2002 vehicle. Unfrotuntly its not THAT high on my priority list to get this box completed because I have an '05 truck. It will get done at some point tho

Ben

2HeavyChevy · August 21, 2006

Can't you just buy the senders and the wires?

I can't even put a monitor in because the dam openings to small

duramaxHD · August 22, 2006

no. You would be (literally) rewiring the whole truck. Every wire, every plug.

01 Suburban LS · September 16, 2006

I can't even put a monitor in because the dam openings to small

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You can convert the dash to the 03+ style. Its not that hard or cost too much. I'll be doing it next week once my dual din Kenwood arrives.

D'Angelo 610 · October 18, 2006

01 Suburban LS:

How can the conversion to a double din be done? Is it as simple as taking everything out and making mounts to fit an 03 climate control console?

01 Suburban LS · October 18, 2006

You cant use the 03+ climate controls. The connector and wiring are different. You need the radio/hvac mounting bucket from an 03+ truck/suv. You'll also need to make a 3/4" spacer for the mounting tabs of the HVAC controls.

The picture below shows the bucket and where it needs to be trimmed to work in a 99-02

You'll also need the Metra 99-2003 installation kit to mount the new headuni:

And you'll need a 03+ dash bezel. I picked up a Denali one.

ScottyBoy · October 22, 2006

So you keep the 01 AC controls, just relocate them? How do they look with the 03+ dash opening (because I know the AC opening is smaller on the 03 trucks)?