Problem With Oem Tires (17" General Ameritrac)

[-Devil-]

Ok, first. i know these tires are junk. But, with that in mind. we shouldn't be forced to buy new tires right away.

 

I just got back from my dealership, and had a talk with them about the tires on my truck, less then 3,000 miles on them and over 1/3 of the treads on all tires have either deep gouges in them, or nice sized chunks missing on the corners.

 

The service manager first tried telling me, that it was normal for tires to do that when they are driven on gravel. (i don't drive on gravel, either dirt for my driveway, or normal road). I kept talking with him about the tires, and explaining where and what i drive on, along with stressing the low milage on the truck. Finally he called a few other 'friends at dealerships' to ask them, each of them told him that they have had 2 or 3 people come in, the past week or two with the same thing. so he placed a call into GM about the tires, but told me it may be a few weeks before he gets a response.

 

Has anyone else noticed this issue with their tires? if you have, did you take it to the dealership? and what did they do about it? within the next 2 to 3k miles i will have to replace these tires for certain. but it would be nice, considering that it seems to be a semi-regular complaint. that either the dealership, or GM would do something about it.

 

another odd thing he mentioned to me, was that they are having to rotate the OEM tires on all the trucks they service at around 3,500 miles to keep them from getting to odd of a wear pattern. most other tires i have delt with, are rotated at about 6,000 to 10,000 without an issue of wear with the right alignment and such.

[bryanhunt]

You're supposed to rotate tires at 3000miles. 6000-10000 is asking for trouble. However the consensus is that these tires are just really bad regardless.

 

The problem is that while the tire may have met GM's specifications due to the pressure put on the tire company they may be providing a lower quality tire than they originally did to GM while they were testing (just like how you get a different quality tires, oil, etc when you buy from walmart).

 

GM stock tires have been really hit or miss. Anybody remember the Firestone tires they used for several years? (good for like 100k.... but slicker than snot). I ended up with bridgestone dueler a/t (e-rated) that are almost worn out in my opinion, still have plenty to go before they are truely worn out, but they're getting slippery. I'm at 40k. But they've been what I'd consider a really good tire.

[-Devil-]

You're supposed to rotate tires at 3000miles. 6000-10000 is asking for trouble. However the consensus is that these tires are just really bad regardless.

 

hmm, guess i am accustomed to low profile tires on cars ... all the ones i bought had a 6k rotation time not 3k ...

 

yes the tires are extremly bad... wont even mention the lack of traction in wet weather ... these tires would suprise me if they hold up past 15 to 20k miles with the amount of rubber that is falling off of them each day ...

[lowrider]

Pure unadulterated JUNK:

 

http://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/index.php?...c=57161&hl=

 

Lou

[-Devil-]

hmm i missed that thread, thanks for pointing it out ... looks like i just may be heading back to the dealership before friday ...

[supahzen]

I've only got 1500 miles on mine, so far no damage, but after reading this I am going to keep my eye on them.

[-Devil-]

yeah keep an eye on them for sure ... i just got off the phone with my dealership .. only thing they will do is replace the tires with the same brand of tire that is on there now ... which i do not want ... it is like 599 for a new set .. so i think i am going to contact general directly about it to find out about a credit or something for the junk tires.

[BlackLT06]

I myself had to have them replaced under 2000 miles. the dealer told me that it was "normal" or that they could not duplicate the problem. I called GM home office and they told me they go by what the dealer says, and that if my dealer said they are fine then they are fine. They went as far to tell me that if i was still not happy to take it to the B.B. B. My dealer also tried to hand me the line that the rep would not see me b/c i bought the truck used. 89 miles is not that used to me. They even tried to deny me on the basis that i bought a chevy at a GMC dealer. Finally the way i got it resolved was to call general themselves and they gave me credit on the tires and i upgraded 5 tires (spare too) to LTX M/S for $400. So if you don't get anywhere with GM call general. It worked for me. Good Luck

[-Devil-]

i think that is what i need to do ... my dealership is cooperating to an extent ... but all they are willing to replace the tires on the truck with .. is more general ameritracs ... which i want to avoid if at all possible ...

[topdj]

what are they coming on the work trucks? my brother bought a SLE1 and I bought a SLE2 with both did not get Genrals on them,they got GOODYEAR WRANGLER AT/S

[-Devil-]

mine is a WT, and i have seen them on the trucks with the chrome steelies ... i think that is what it is limited to ....

[Chestah]

I had General Ameritrac's and they nearly got me killed. I did a 360 on a busy 2 lane road in the rain. Never again.

[-Devil-]

I had General Ameritrac's and they nearly got me killed. I did a 360 on a busy 2 lane road in the rain. Never again.

 

 

that i would beleive ... when we finally got some rain around here, i ended up parking the truck till it was over ... even from a dead standstil i couldn't get traction for s**t .. even letting it idle from a stop sign it would just sit there and spin the tire some and slowly move forward ... and brakes? forget about them ...

[ctahoe]

Sounds like the OEM Bridgestone dueler h/t's that GM is bolting on some 2007's. The Dueler h/t suck even on dry pavement. They hydro plane on puddles, and lack even basic traction on wet roads to say nothing about the lack of stability. The worst part is GM is bolting these tires both on mini vans AND full size 4 wheel drive trucks. The Bridgestone rep's I spoke with didn't advice their use off-pavement.

 

Save yourself the hassle and time dealing with your dealer and GM about OEM tires... I got nowhere, its easier and safer to quit waiting and just go get yourself some proper tires for your full size truck. I suggest Toyo Open Country AT's, Nitto Terra Grappler AT's, and BFG TA KO's in LT metric and upsized to 285/70R17/D.

 

I had General Ameritrac's and they nearly got me killed. I did a 360 on a busy 2 lane road in the rain. Never again.

[-Devil-]

i am just replacing mine ... cant decide between going ahead and upsizing the rims a bit or just getting tires for now and getting new wheels and tires in a year or two ...

 

http://www.bridgestonetire.com/tireselecto...?productID=1074

 

those are the ones that most of the tire shops around me keep directing me to when i inquire about tires ... seems to have 'fair' reviews from what i have found but still not sure .. 599 for a set of 4 installed ...