Looking at doing ziebart rust proofing

[ShamrockShooter]

That would be the fee each year as it is a complete reapplication of the product to the entire vehicle, but I believe you're locked in at that rate (it will not increase in the future).

Thanks. I think zeibart charges u all up front then u don't pay each return trip. Will the carwell stuff work if my frame has some rust spots already? It been through one winter.

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[newdude]

Ziebart is nasty stuff.  They get it everywhere you don't want it.  Seen plenty of rust grow underneath it too.  Go Fluid Film, Krown or the Carwell (don't know much about that one).

[SandyNeck]

I can't speak for the company, since I'm not associated with them, but the product has been reported to penetrate existing rust, arrest its progress and even eliminate it. I looked into Ziebart, but read several things that did not inspire confidence. I'd also be reluctant to apply a coating like Ziebart over existing rust, for concern of sealing it in. Suggest you do some reading on their website (carwell.com). Also recommend you read customer reviews elsewhere online to learn more.

 

I'd give priority to effectiveness over cost, especially if you intend to keep the vehicle for the long term. A less expensive treatment that doesn't work well is no bargain. Imagine looking under your truck 10 or 15 years from now and finding it preservred in the condition that it is in today. Not covered in black tar goup, brake lines and fuel lines not rotting out, nuts and fasteners not frozen in place, no rust on every surface inhibiting your ability to perform repairs, etc. I can't predict what conditon the vehicle will be in at some point in the future, but such results have been reported and would be desirable for me.

 

FWIW: The nearest Ziebart is about 5 miles from me and the Carwell location is over 200 miles away. After studying various alternatives, I decided to drive the 200 miles. No regrets so far.

[sdeeter19555]

I had Ziebaet done a looooong time ago...their wax coating was awesome, the rest is just a rubberized coating.s

I had Fluid Film done on my 2012, it peeled the OE coating off...I've oiled it since.

I am going to have the Equinox sprayed with Crown for something different...

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[ShamrockShooter]

I can't speak for the company, since I'm not associated with them, but the product has been reported to penetrate existing rust, arrest its progress and even eliminate it. I looked into Ziebart, but read several things that did not inspire confidence. I'd also be reluctant to apply a coating like Ziebart over existing rust, for concern of sealing it in. Suggest you do some reading on their website (carwell.com). Also recommend you read customer reviews elsewhere online to learn more.
 
I'd give priority to effectiveness over cost, especially if you intend to keep the vehicle for the long term. A less expensive treatment that doesn't work well is no bargain. Imagine looking under your truck 10 or 15 years from now and finding it preservred in the condition that it is in today. Not covered in black tar goup, brake lines and fuel lines not rotting out, nuts and fasteners not frozen in place, no rust on every surface inhibiting your ability to perform repairs, etc. I can't predict what conditon the vehicle will be in at some point in the future, but such results have been reported and would be desirable for me.
 
FWIW: The nearest Ziebart is about 5 miles from me and the Carwell location is over 200 miles away. After studying various alternatives, I decided to drive the 200 miles. No regrets so far.

Is the carwell stuff a clear liquid or is it colored like the zeibart stuff? I drive dirt roads couple times a month, think that would sway you either way?

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[SandyNeck]

Carwell is oil based and is reddish-brown in color with a lightweight consistency somewhat similar to WD-40. It is applied as an atomized mist like a fog under pressure and it creeps into just about everywhere. The color is not visable when it is applied and it just appears as a thin film of oil on surfaces.

 

I believe the Ziebart product is kinda gummy black and sorta reminds me of driveway sealer. In addition to concerns already mentioned, I'd also worry that it might plug drain holes in body panels.

 

Dirt roads would not concern me. I drive out on the beach and it has not caused problems. Maybe call Carwell and ask them. I found them pretty helpful and easy to deal with.

 

[sdeeter19555]

Carwell is oil based and is reddish-brown in color with a lightweight consistency somewhat similar to WD-40. It is applied as an atomized mist like a fog under pressure and it creeps into just about everywhere. The color is not visable when it is applied and it just appears as a thin film of oil on surfaces.
 
I believe the Ziebart product is kinda gummy black and sorta reminds me of driveway sealer. In addition to concerns already mentioned, I'd also worry that it might plug drain holes in body panels.
 
Dirt roads would not concern me. I drive out on the beach and it has not caused problems. Maybe call Carwell and ask them. I found them pretty helpful and easy to deal with.
 

There are two different Ziebart products applied to each vehicle, the body gets a light-brown wax and the frame gets a rubberized undercoating.

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