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Superlift with Kings, 3 inch if you actually off road. ( Unless their 6 inch black diamond is out)

Bds if you kind of off-road and have a hard on for Fox.

Rough country if you don't care all that much about how it rides, and don't really wheel. vertex shocks are an option but at that point you might be served by a "better" kit.

Filthy Motorsports if you want a kit built exactly for your needs.

Camburg if you want to channel your inner Raptor.

There's some other performance companies but if you want to actually use the travel you have to go to fiberglass bed sides and front fenders.

Ready lift SST if you just want it 4 in higher for dirt cheap, and never wheel.


Things to keep in mind the stock shocks are 1.8 in so upgrading to 2.0 shocks aren't going to change it that much, ideally you'd go to a 2.5 or higher if you're actually going to take it out and run it hard.

Spacer kits will change your angles, we don't know what their long-term 5 to 10-year durability is. So far nothing has popped up.

if you plan on running OEM wheels be very careful about the kit that you choose, most kits won't be compatible with OEM wheels and if they are they are only compatible with 20's


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Not looking to go 6 inch and all those southern cal shock makers build very good sand- warm temp shocks but put them in the snow,mud,grime and road salt and they don't hold up so well.The other thing is for what you pay for these shocks you shouldn't have  to rebuild in less than 50,000 km.I would go with the oem lift but have no use for rancho shocks and the only other 2  inch is the RC which really isn't a big move up.Kind of crossing my fingers that bilstein  will get in the game with a 2.5 - 3 inch strut.

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Not looking to go 6 inch and all those southern cal shock makers build very good sand- warm temp shocks but put them in the snow,mud,grime and road salt and they don't hold up so well.The other thing is for what you pay for these shocks you shouldn't have  to rebuild in less than 50,000 km.I would go with the oem lift but have no use for rancho shocks and the only other 2  inch is the RC which really isn't a big move up.Kind of crossing my fingers that bilstein  will get in the game with a 2.5 - 3 inch strut.


I understand really it depends on what you do with your truck and how often.

The high performance shocks have a shorter rebuild cycle because they are rebuildable, I know people that put 60-70,000 mi on them but by the time they get that old when you go to rebuild it a lot of times it makes sense simply to just buy all new shocks.

it's kind of like a high performance engines you can have a normal, under stress engine that'll do 300,000 MI or you can tune the crap out of that engine but you might have to do a teardown every 25,000.

Also remember their rebuild cycles are for like new performance, so when they say 15,000 mi and then rebuild it for heavy use. they literally mean pushing the shock to its limits for 15,000 mi pounding on it. I believe they're on road time is something like 30,000. which is about the time that you have to replace a normal shock anyways.

Suspension gets highly technical. You have linear rate shocks, digressive and regressive.

The factory ranchos are digressive, bilstiens are digressive. But their tuning is different.

I went with the Kings because then I don't have to replace them constantly. I can just rebuild them and if I don't like them I can change them instead of throwing them away and buying an all new shock.

the reason I went was superlift is because it includes a powertrain warranty just in case some craziness happens. but I also live in Alaska and a lot of our paved roads are worse than some of those nasty rutted out Forest roads, but we're doing 45 to 60 on them.

I have 5160 remote reservoirs on my 2003 2500 and it rides really nice, it's a bit over dampened and a smidge firm (characteristic of digressive shocks) but once it gets moving it's astonishing. I'm not kidding when I tell you that it out rides nearly everything I've ever been in that doesn't have air suspension.

Bilstien uses the same fluid as King, Fox, and everyone else. I've had them down to -40 without a single problem. I did pit my shafts a bit, but in all honesty the suspension never travels to max out the shock and that's some pretty violent, gravely, heavy wheel speed roads.

so I see you're looking for a smaller lift, what exactly do you need your truck to do. perform on the road, perform off-road, Rock crawl? and if you had to give a percentage what percentage of time does your truck actually do these things?

I spent literally 3 months digging into kits going as far as to read their installation manuals to find exactly what it all entails. so I can try to help you the best that I can but I kind of need information for what you're shooting for.

with COVID and the fact that 2022 is going to see an update on the 1500. I wouldn't hold your breath for brand new products, you might have to wait until the 2022s come out and manufacturers find out whether or not the chassis are the same.



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Looking for a lift that will give about 2-3 inch lift as from what I've studied  that is about the limit on a stock Diesel 1500 suspension without starting a bunch of other issues.I live in northern Manitoba and the roads are probably similar to Alaska.....I'm looking to put on a 33 - 34 tire with a probably 20-30% offroad (bad timber roads). Not looking for a show truck with big 35 mudders just to spend money on fuel. My previous ride was an ecodiesel with 34's and I was able to use the bilsteins to give it the extra room.Was very happy with Bilsteins,they held up well and I had well over 60,000  miles on them. Would prefer again to do a strut lift as block spacers do nothing to help the ride and can cause more issues if the suspension is maxxed out. I really appreciate the help as I have not found a lift for diesels that does cost a fortune (everything built in the US is 30% more in Canada) or requires cutting or reconstructing of the suspensions.

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I don't think the suspension will change much in 22 (maybe they'll build something to compete with the raptor) ..... the changes gm are going to make are going to be more towards ergonomics to compete with Ram and Ford interior features (nothing like putting more electronics and computer feature in to create more distracted driving and limiting the useful life of the vehicle). Whatever happened to buying a truck to work where an upgraded radio was the most expensive option.

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Looking for a lift that will give about 2-3 inch lift as from what I've studied  that is about the limit on a stock Diesel 1500 suspension without starting a bunch of other issues.I live in northern Manitoba and the roads are probably similar to Alaska.....I'm looking to put on a 33 - 34 tire with a probably 20-30% offroad (bad timber roads). Not looking for a show truck with big 35 mudders just to spend money on fuel. My previous ride was an ecodiesel with 34's and I was able to use the bilsteins to give it the extra room.Was very happy with Bilsteins,they held up well and I had well over 60,000  miles on them. Would prefer again to do a strut lift as block spacers do nothing to help the ride and can cause more issues if the suspension is maxxed out. I really appreciate the help as I have not found a lift for diesels that does cost a fortune (everything built in the US is 30% more in Canada) or requires cutting or reconstructing of the suspensions.


Silverados can come with 33's stock, and since you don't have a GMC 34 should fit fine stock. (Watch the width)

https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/topic?url=https://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/topic/242034-bilstein-5100s-are-a-huge-upgrade/&share_tid=242034&share_fid=33003&share_type=t&link_source=app

That is the bilstien 5100 thread. 2.5 inch lift with struts, I suggest doing the rears as well. Backordered through November.

20-30% off road with a value conscious buyer, I would suggest those.

anything 4 in and higher is going to require the cross members to be cut except for the massive spacer SST kit which I don't suggest because of how rough your roads are.

IIRC, the 3.0 weighs 130 lb more on the front axle than the 6.2. I know the thread is really long but there's people that have already put it on their Diesel and they seemed happy.

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B8 6112 (60mm-2.4in) 47-293557 Front Lift: 0.3-2.5
B8 5160 (remote res. 46mm-1.8in) 25-293487 rear 0-1

B8 5100 (46mm- 1.8in) 24-293297 Front Lift: 0-2.5
B8 5100 (46mm-1.8in) 24-293471 rear 0-1

The diameters listed for the Piston internally. Round up to compare shock class.

those are the combos I recommend. Though you can swap the rears as you see fit.

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They are zinc coated but if you care about how they look over time especially with the salt exposure you might want to get your hands on some clear bra and wrap them.

I don't really like shock boots because they tend to hold water which then turns to ice but seeing the small amount of pitting that I have on my 2500 I might suggest that if you do a lot of gravel roads.

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That is really good info thanks very much have not seen the bilstein info anywhere on their site will definitely check this out.Just an fyi the ones on the ecodiesel barely look used and the stock were already looking destroyed with less than 12,000 miles on them.Which UCA's would you recommend ?

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If you're on the bilstiens, I haven't seen anybody need to change the upper control arms.

If you want low maintenance stick with ball joints and bushings, don't go heim joints or uniball.

I hear rough country makes a nice set of forged ones. I haven't seen any upper arm failures to show that it's needed. The only time I've really seen it needed is when you start to get in the 3"+ range

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Chevy uses extended axle shafts instead of UCA's on their 2" lift I'm thinking that It's just an extra ounce of precaution to do the Uca's., Icon and camburg have both told me not to go above the 3" mark using either of their struts. I'm thinking the 2.5 inch mark will workout to be in a safe range.

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Chevy uses extended axle shafts instead of UCA's on their 2" lift I'm thinking that It's just an extra ounce of precaution to do the Uca's., Icon and camburg have both told me not to go above the 3" mark using either of their struts. I'm thinking the 2.5 inch mark will workout to be in a safe range.
There is some debate about whether the extended axles actually help anything.

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