Chevy VS Ford

Ognob350 · October 27, 2006

Im not looking to drag my truck, but i was wondering what modifacations could i do inorder to beat say a Ford F150 lighting. Im speculating on the model of the ford. Right now i have a 1997 1500 with a 5.7L 350. For modifacations i have a magnaflow exhaust and a k&n air filter. Any suggestions would be great because you guys of all people know that its always important to BEAT a Ford .

Thanks

MilkTruck · October 27, 2006

200hp shot, and make it count. Your heads may end up on the road behind you. Those lightnings are fast.

Wingnut · October 27, 2006

200hp shot, and make it count. Your heads may end up on the road behind you. Those lightnings are fast.

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They're not THAT fast.

A 200 shot on a stock block will grenade in no time. I'd say turbo or supercharger, and you'll be in the ballpark of a Lightning.

Clavin78 · October 27, 2006

Yeah...I think a 200 shot would be too much, blown piston. Turbocharger with 100 shot would be great.

Schmids5.3l · October 28, 2006

Lightnings run what, mid-high 13's. Forced induction is you best bet.

frdfandc · October 28, 2006

What year lightning??? They have a 1st gen and 2nd gen. The 2nd gen Lightnings model year 99-2001 ran high 13's on street tires. The 2nd gen Lightnings model year 2002+ ran mid 13's on street tires. Now both ET's are ideal conditions and good drivers. But you will need at least 400 crank HP to compete with a stock Lightning.

Also a $2000 investment into a Lightning will net high 12 second ET's, if not faster.

Clavin78 · October 28, 2006

I do have to say...I do like Lightnings...real nice looking with that dual side exhaust

Schmids5.3l · October 29, 2006

Whats funny to me is Ford had to supercharge a 5.4l for it to put out 380hp. A tune and a few bolt ons on a fake hemi would put those numbers out. Didnt want to use the 6.0 as an example because displacement.

frdfandc · October 29, 2006

Alot of times, that 380 hp is underrated. Just look at the 03-04 Cobra's. Stock Cobra's were dynoing anywhere from 360 to 380 hp at the rear wheels, and the engine is rated at 390 flywheel hp. If you add 18% for drivetrain losses, you get in the neighborhood of 425 to 450 hp at the flywheel.

Same principal for the LIghtnings. I used a hp calculator and estimated the HP for a stock lightning at the wheels. Most run 13.9's to 13.7's in the 1/4 mile stock. OK, take a curb weight of approx 4600 and 13.9 seconds, the calculator is saying approx 338 hp at the wheels. With a estimated 22% drivetrain lose, that would put flywheel HP at around 410 hp.

Here is a link to the calculator I used.

http://bbs.hardcore50.com/calc/index.php?mode=estimatehp

linda · October 29, 2006

quickest way would be forced induction. An STS, Radix, or whipple/Kenne Bell would put you right there. Not to mention a good tune to couple with either of those options. You could do it N/A with a little more work (i.e tearing into the motor). Lightenings are no joke, they will leave you quick. Line up a second Gen lighteneing with an SSS (14.7), Hemi (15.3), Titan (15.4), or even a QC SRT10 (14.1) and the lightening (13.5) will win just about everyt time with a decent driver. Those times are consistant with what I have seen those trucks run stock at the track.

Schmids5.3l · October 29, 2006

Alot of times, that 380 hp is underrated. Just look at the 03-04 Cobra's. Stock Cobra's were dynoing anywhere from 360 to 380 hp at the rear wheels, and the engine is rated at 390 flywheel hp. If you add 18% for drivetrain losses, you get in the neighborhood of 425 to 450 hp at the flywheel.

Same principal for the LIghtnings. I used a hp calculator and estimated the HP for a stock lightning at the wheels. Most run 13.9's to 13.7's in the 1/4 mile stock. OK, take a curb weight of approx 4600 and 13.9 seconds, the calculator is saying approx 338 hp at the wheels. With a estimated 22% drivetrain lose, that would put flywheel HP at around 410 hp.

Here is a link to the calculator I used.

http://bbs.hardcore50.com/calc/index.php?mode=estimatehp

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Well that makes sence, I always wondered how 380hp made a pickup truck run 13's. I always figured they were light trucks, guess they are kinda light. My best friend used to have a 99 f150 2wd regcab stepside with a 4.6l, it was a pretty small truck, I figured they didnt weigh much.

ZZebes · October 29, 2006

quickest way would be forced induction. An STS, Radix, or whipple/Kenne Bell would put you right there. Not to mention a good tune to couple with either of those options. You could do it N/A with a little more work (i.e tearing into the motor). Lightenings are no joke, they will leave you quick. Line up a second Gen lighteneing with an SSS (14.7), Hemi (15.3), Titan (15.4), or even a QC SRT10 (14.1) and the lightening (13.5) will win just about everyt time with a decent driver. Those times are consistant with what I have seen those trucks run stock at the track.

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Well i believe the SSS and Hemi numbers but remember the Lightning is a Regular cab and all of the trucks you just mentioned are Extended or Quad Cabs. Because i know a Regular cab SRT-10 Ram would eat a Lightning for lunch.

Correct me if i am wrong but i think that a Stout 5.3L with a Whipple or a Turbo and a good dyno tune should stand up against a Lightning

linda · October 29, 2006

Right, a standard cab srt10 will beat an L, but not for lunch i dont think. Those v10's encure some serious heat soak. Either way, i think with some forced induction and a good tune, you will be right there. Good luck.

Ognob350 · October 30, 2006

Thanks for the advice, Ill look into forced induction. For right now, its looking like i won't have the $ to drop into my engine needed to keep up with one of those things. I appreciate all the help though.