Another Example Of Media Bias.

Norseman · October 24, 2007

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=678203

I wish Toyota would finally stop getting a free pass - this should be named what it is: RECALL and a Huge one at that.

Toyota is really having problems with the simple things, tailgate welds, door panel welds, etc.

These are the instances that show a media bias. You won't find this on the major news networks, even though its a huge recall.

Just a litttle more of my blind hatred getting in the way

Zembonez · October 24, 2007

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=678203
I wish Toyota would finally stop getting a free pass - this should be named what it is: RECALL and a Huge one at that.

Toyota is really having problems with the simple things, tailgate welds, door panel welds, etc.

These are the instances that show a media bias. You won't find this on the major news networks, even though its a huge recall.

Just a little more of my blind hatred getting in the way

The media LOVES anything Jap or Euro. Nothing new there. They are in lock step with Hollywood.

If Europe does things so well why did they have to form a union and common currency to keep their countries from going bankrupt? What a bunch of sniveling socialists. As far as Japan goes, our own manufacturers gave them the key to the country years ago... now they are trying to get it back. It's about time!!!

I say Buy AMERICAN (if you can figure out what it is)

Schmids5.3l · October 24, 2007

We are calling it a warranty enhancement, rather than a factory recall, Kwong said

Tojo's are too good to be recalled.

Norseman · October 24, 2007

We are calling it a warranty enhancement, rather than a factory recall, Kwong said

Tojo's are too good to be recalled.

This thing is huge think about it :

Aprox $2000 per fix times 600 thousand vans out there. Thats $1.2 billion to fix. Someone please tell me why the media isn't all over this?!?!?

Schmids5.3l · October 24, 2007

Becuase Toyota is the savior of planet Earth and is all that is holy.

asilverblazer · October 24, 2007

Warranty enhancement... Not a recall...

I guess in technicalities its not a recall, since those are mandated by the government. Seems to me that Toyotas days are numbered, if they are producing these kind of products, with these kind of problems with pockets as deep as their are... Common, Gm has these problems and they run a much closer to the bottom line.

Toyotas solution is throw money at it, when doing that doesn't work, where will they be? GM is producing products just as well as Toyota, with a fraction of the money that Toyota, has. When the money is gone, GM will be right behind them to take back the number 1 spot. Lets face it GM is pretty good at staying competitve with no money. Toyota stays competitive by buying there way.

Zembonez · October 24, 2007

Warranty enhancement... Not a recall...

I guess in technicalities its not a recall, since those are mandated by the government. Seems to me that Toyotas days are numbered, if they are producing these kind of products, with these kind of problems with pockets as deep as their are... Common, Gm has these problems and they run a much closer to the bottom line.

Toyotas solution is throw money at it, when doing that doesn't work, where will they be? GM is producing products just as well as Toyota, with a fraction of the money that Toyota, has. When the money is gone, GM will be right behind them to take back the number 1 spot. Lets face it GM is pretty good at staying competitve with no money. Toyota stays competitive by buying there way.

That's dancing around the reality of the situation no matter how they slice it.

I am sure high and mighty Toyota must remain politically correct to keep their image shiny. Symbolism over substance is the way of doing business these days. Warranty enhancement sounds much better than recall to the uneducated masses...

Sadly, we created this mess. We sure need to fix it.

October 25, 2007

Since the Tundras are built in Indiana and Texas, could the flaws be more the fault of UAW workers than Tojo?

Schmids5.3l · October 25, 2007

The UAW has never succeeded in organizing a foreign assembly plant in the United States, to my knowledge. I heard a bunch of commotion a while ago about the UAW trying to ""Organize"" Toyota's Kentucky plant were Camry's are built. I think UAW workers can still work for them though.

That got me thinking what a bunch of hypocrites those guys are. Most or all union workers you talk to will praise America, American jobs, buy American ect. ect., and they want to unionize Toyota.

Zembonez · October 25, 2007

Since the Tundras are built in Indiana and Texas, could the flaws be more the fault of UAW workers than Tojo?

As MUCH as I would like to agree (since I am in South Texas or should I say North Mexico?) with the labor theory... I have to say that the engineering of the vehicle seems to be what is at fault here. The problems I have read about have nothing to do with production.

At least that is what I have seen in print.

Edit:Let me add that this is not a cut on the Mexican workers here. They are actually the hardest working, quality oriented guys around here. I just had a new home built a few years back and those guys did a phenomenal job. I just wanted to make that clear.

chakis24 · October 25, 2007

someone should email this to the major networks and see what happens. i would, but why would they listen to me?

btw, zembonez, your avatar creeps me the f out

Zembonez · October 25, 2007

someone should email this to the major networks and see what happens. i would, but why would they listen to me?

btw, zembonez, your avatar creeps me the f out

Yeah... I should change it. It's just so... COOL!

chakis24 · October 25, 2007

someone should email this to the major networks and see what happens. i would, but why would they listen to me?

btw, zembonez, your avatar creeps me the f out

Yeah... I should change it. It's just so... COOL!

no, keep it. its cool........but creepy to.

dietz4ibanez · October 25, 2007

The main problem is that Toyo has way to much money! I would love to see there situation if they were have money problems!

Mark_in_Tulsa · October 25, 2007

We are calling it a warranty enhancement, rather than a factory recall, Kwong said

Tojo's are too good to be recalled.

This thing is huge think about it :

Aprox $2000 per fix times 600 thousand vans out there. Thats $1.2 billion to fix. Someone please tell me why the media isn't all over this?!?!?

Because it was only a handful vans that this happened to. Not all of them. Not all of the spot welds are going bad. It's not like it's a design flaw. Just some robot or human had a few bad welds out of half a million vans. So if it was happening to all of them then yeah it would be a recall. But since it's just a fraction of a % of them they will fix them as they break.