06 Gmc Sierra Still In The Game?

espionagespy007 · March 24, 2008

I am considering purchasing a red 2006 GMC Sierra 1500 Crew Cab SLE 4x4 5.3 V8. The truck has only 1280 miles and has a 6 inch lift, new rims/tires/tow package, exhaust already done to it (dealer states $8k of extras). Its got everything that I want in truck and I still love the body styling of the 06's. The KB is 27k without options and the dealer is asking 31k + tax/license fees.

My question: Do you think I should be able to bring the dealer down in price? Even though the miles are low, its still the older model, 2yrs old after I drive it off the lot and its only about 3 or 4k less than a new truck of the same calibre (of course without all the extras).

And because it seem like in the news all the dealerships are low on sales and hurting that they should be giving a better deal. Any ideas on what would be a fair price? I was thinking $28k would be fair...

http://www.mikedaughertychevy.com/VehicleDetails/934420054

Are the new trucks alot better than the previous 2006 version?

espionagespy007 · March 25, 2008

Well, I'm down to my last hour befire the test drive. I will not make a hasty decision though and planning on more research.

Bottom line, do you think the dealer can come down further or do you think the asking price (quoted by email 31,660.36) is still too high? Understanding all the extras, but once you drive it off, they are all worth $0...not that I plan to piece sell it!

btw, rear gearing is 4:10....

99silverado1500 · March 25, 2008

Is KBB retail 27? If so, id only pay 27. If its private party or so, id maybe swing for 29. That truck brand new with 0 miles on it was maybe 27-28K.

espionagespy007 · March 25, 2008

Is KBB retail 27? If so, id only pay 27. If its private party or so, id maybe swing for 29. That truck brand new with 0 miles on it was maybe 27-28K.

Yah the KBB is 27, but with all the options installed it goes back up to 34. They said they wouldnt go below 31, but if I wait I may get them to cough it up for 29 OTD. I know the tax and fees always seems to bump it up sev thousand more..

MS3DALE · March 25, 2008

Heres a build sheet on it....

GM Vehicle Inquiry System

Vehicle Build

VIN 2GTEK13Z161339847

VEHICLE BUILD

Merchandising Model : TK15543 -2006 SIERRA 1500 4WD CREW CAB SLE1

Gross Vehicle Weight Rating : 3178 kg (7007 lb)

Order Number : JZQHBD

Build Date : 04/24/2006

Build Plant : 26143

GMVIS is not the definitive source of GM Vehicle RPO information and is intended for service reference only. Should there be any questions about the vehicle's original build or RPO information please refer to the original vehicle invoice or window sticker.

OPTION CODES

AE7 - UPLEVEL 40/20/40 FRT SPLIT BENCH SEATS - CUSTOM CLOTH

AG1 - POWER DRIVER SEAT ADJUSTER

AJ1 - DEEP TINTED GLASS

AL0 - SENSOR INDICATOR, INFLATABLE RESTRAINT

AM7 - FOLDING REAR SEAT

AU0 - REMOTE KEYLESS ENTRY SYSTEM

AU3 - POWER DOOR LOCKS

A31 - POWER WINDOWS

B30 - FULL-COLOR KEYED CARPET W/MATS

B32 - FRONT COLOR-KEYED FLOOR MATS

B33 - REAR COLOR-KEYED FLOOR MATS

B85 - BRIGHT BODY SIDE MOLDINGS

CJ2 - DUAL ZONE AIR COND - AUTO

C49 - ELECTRIC REAR WINDOW DEFOGGER

C5W - GVW RATING - 7,000 LBS

DF5 - ELECTROCHROMIC ISRV MIRROR WITH COMPASS & TEMP

DK7 - OVERHEAD CONSOLE

DL3 - OSRV MIRRORS W/PWR FOLD & ADJ, HEAT & TURN SIGNAL; ELECTRO- CHROMIC DR-SIDE MIRROR

EVA - EVAP EMISSION REQUIREMENT

E63 - WIDESIDE BOX PICKUP BED

FF6 - TORSION BAR SPRING ADJ - LH

FF7 - TORSION BAR SPRING ADJ - RH

GU6 - REAR AXLE - 3.42 RATIO

G80 - H.D. REAR LOCKING DIFFERENTIAL

JF3 - POWER DISC BRAKES W/ABS

JJG - FRT END SUBASSEMBLY

KG3 - ALTERNATOR 145 AMP

KNP - H.D. TRANSMISSION OIL COOLER

KUP - THROTTLE CONTROL ELECTRONIC

K34 - CRUISE CONTROL

K47 - HIGH CAPACITY AIR CLEANER

L59 - VORTEC 5.3L V8 FLEXIBLE FUEL ETHANOL ENGINE

M30 - 4-SPD AUTO TRANS W/ OVERDRIVE

NP5 - LEATHER-WRAPPED STEERING WHL

NP8 - ELECTRONIC SHIFT AUTOTRAC TRANSFER CASE

NU4 - CALIF EMISSION SYSTEM LEV 2PLUS

NZZ - OFF-ROAD SKID PLATE PKG

OSG - ASSEMBLY PLANT, OSHAWA, ONTARIO

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PDU - LIGHT DUTY POWER PACKAGE INCL: *VORTEC 5.3L 295HP IRON BLK V8 *H.D. REAR LOCKING DIFFERENTIAL *H.D. TRAILERING EQUIPMENT

P27 - 17" POLISHED CAST ALUM. WHEELS

QJP - P265/70R17, OOR, BW TIRES

R5C - TIRE BRAND ALL BRIDGESTONE

R6J - CUSTOMER DIALOGUE NETWORK

R6P - PREMIUM PAINT

R6S - L59 ETHANOL ENGINE ID

R8K - *******************************

R9Z - POMS EXPEDITE-SOLD ORDERS

SAF - SPARE TIRE LOCK

SLM - STOCK ORDERS

SSB

TFE - SALES INCENTIVE-COMMITMENT PLUS

TSM

T96 - FRONT FOG LAMPS

UC6 - AM/FM STEREO W/6-DISC CD CHANGER (REPLACES STD/OPT RADIO)

UE1 - ONSTAR SERVICE: INCLUDES 1 YEAR SAFE & SOUND PLAN

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UQ3 - ENHANCED AUDIO SPEAKER SYSTEM

U2K - *XM SATELLITE RADIO - SERVICE FEE EXTRA. 1ST 3 MONTHS INCL.

VB3 - CHROME STEP REAR BUMPER

VG3 - CHROME FRONT BUMPER

VK3 - FRONT LICENSE PLATE MOUNT

VP6 - NOISE CONTROL

VR4 - WEIGHT DIST HITCH PLATFORM

VXS - COMPLETE VEHICLE LABEL

V22 - CHROME GRILLE SURROUND

V73 - STATEMENT OF CERT. U.S.

XJP - P265/70R17 OOR B/W

YD3 - BASE EQUIP FOR SCH GVW PLATE

YD5 - FRONT SPRING - BASE EQUIPMENT

YD6 - REAR SPRING - BASE EQUIPMENT

YE9 - SLE/SLT DECOR

YF5 - 50-STATE EMISSIONS

YJP - P265/70R17 OOR BW

ZJP - P265/70R17-113S BW SPARE TIRE

ZV1 - MSO REQUIREMENTS

ZY1 - SOLID PAINT

Z71 - OFF-ROAD SUSPENSION PACKAGE

Z82 - H.D. TRAILERING EQUIPMENT PKG.

Z88 - GMC TRUCK NAMEPLATE

1SZ - POWER PACK SAVINGS

3SA - SLE1 DECOR INCLUDES: *ELECTROCHROMIC ISRV MIRROR WITH COMPASS & TEMP *ELECTRIC REAR WINDOW DEFOGGER *DEEP TINTED GLASS *AM/FM STEREO W/CD PLAYER *CRUISE CONTROL *POWER LOCKS & WINDOWS *REMOTE KEYLESS ENTRY SYSTEM *POWER HEATED EXTERIOR BLACK MIRRORS *LEATHER-WRAPPED STEERING WHEEL *CHROME-STYLED STEEL WHEELS *BODYSIDE MOLDINGS *AUTOTRAC TRANSFER CASE

6YT - COMPONENT FRT LH COMPUTER SEL SUSP

69D - DARK PEWTER

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74U - FIRE RED

GM Vehicle Inquiry System

Delivery Information

VIN : 2GTEK13Z161339847

IN-SERVICE INFORMATION

In-Service Information Not On file

DELIVERY INFORMATION

Delivery Date : 07/28/2006

Delivery Type : 018 - BUSINESS/ORGANIZATION

Delivered Odometer : 62 miles

Delivering Dealer :

DOW LEWIS MOTORS, INC.

2913 COLUSA HWY

YUBA CITY , CA 95993-8934

(530) 674-2000

Delivery Selling Source : 48 - GMC TRUCK

Delivery Site Code : 40101

Business Associate Code : 118981

MS3DALE · March 25, 2008

Is KBB retail 27? If so, id only pay 27. If its private party or so, id maybe swing for 29. That truck brand new with 0 miles on it was maybe 27-28K.

I also pulled up the invoice,The truck stickered for $34,448.00,Dealer invoice was $32,115.83

99silverado1500 · March 25, 2008

sorry about that, I thought it was an extended cab. Id shoot for around 29-30 out the door.

Bostonsfavson · March 25, 2008

I don't know Dan, 30K dollars for a non-diesel GMT800? I looked at the the truck, and even considering everything (the low miles, add-ons, etc.) I'm not sure I would do it. You've definitely ruled out a new truck, like an '07 or '08?

marko · March 25, 2008

I don't know Dan, 30K dollars for a non-diesel GMT800? I looked at the the truck, and even considering everything (the low miles, add-ons, etc.) I'm not sure I would do it. You've definitely ruled out a new truck, like an '07 or '08?

Yeah really. How did it end up at the d'ship with 1280 miles? The first owner takes the depreciation hit, 20% or so when you drive it off the lot. Forget the lift kit and other add-ons, the dealer didn't pay for that and most dealers, when taking a lifted truck on a trade, will say things to the trader like "you've voided your warranty" or "I could only sell that to a kid". So, play some hardball. Offer him 27k out the door and make him squirm. Ga-ron-teed the dealer did not add extra to the trade for that.

In October of 06 you could have bought a brand new Z71 SLE in Canada of all places for $35k with zero per cent, plus factory incentives. Stick to your guns and more importantly stick it to the dealer. He needs to move that thing.

espionagespy007 · March 25, 2008

I don't know Dan, 30K dollars for a non-diesel GMT800? I looked at the the truck, and even considering everything (the low miles, add-ons, etc.) I'm not sure I would do it. You've definitely ruled out a new truck, like an '07 or '08?

WOW Guys! That is alot of information you have found on it. Well, I took the test drive and it rides like a lifted truck...this was my first ride in one that has been lifted 6 inches. Even though the ride was rougher than I anticipated due to the nobby tires, I loved it! (I tried to make it not show in front of the dealer though).

Basically I found out from the dealer that the original owner put the fabtech lift kit on, the "DRIV" 20's with Toyo tires, the gibson exhaust system, the nerf bars, x-liner, corrected the steering ratio to compensate for the lift and the 4:10 gearing in the rear. After he did all this, he brought the truck in at 1258 miles and traded it in for an Avalanche.

The reason the dealer said they wouldnt budge on the price of $31660.36 is because they gave too much for the trade in due to all the extras and they would only be making $600.00 on the sale...$150.00 to salesman and $450.00 for the paperwork, clean-up fees. Plus here in California Tax & license fees are 10% of the sales price - so that would be about $3500 extra!

I looked at the new GMC trucks which I think only look good lifted (which my wife likes better), but to get anything near the extras, I would have to pay out he nose. After rims/tires/lift kit at the very least would be abut 5k more.

So after the test drive, I told them that I would have to think about the truck some more before I sold my soul. I even through out "what about the asking price OTD?" They said no. Do they make the new 07/08 trucks in the same red? If so, I may just wait till they do and buy one then...

espionagespy007 · March 25, 2008

Oh, and regarding the warranty on the lift/transmission etc...apparently is now has a dealer warranty good for 1k miles on everything.....So what happened to the original warranty? My buddy just bought an 06 extended cab with 23k miles and they made him pay 3500 for a 100k mile warranty or 5 yrs..which he said only bumped up his payment about 5 dollars a month.

I don't know, I think I may just wait till the people who bought 07's start turning them back in....I just really want the red color! (Not burgundy)

TexasAl · March 25, 2008

Nope, don't buy it. That truck is not worth it. You can have all that done on a slightly used truck, install all the goodies, and come out ahead. Heck, You can get a 2008 Crew Cab LT1, for about 27,000 crew cab, and install all those goodies, get the paint you want on it for about $33,000 +- a few thousand dollars. Plus, you get the bragging rights on building an awesome truck.

-Al

TexasAl · March 25, 2008

Also, the dealer is bullshitting you. They did not pay too much for the truck. The most they paid for it was $27,000. They are not stupid. They play the guy that braught it back, and they try to play the potential buyers. They know they will find a buyer eventually. They are trying to get as much for the "show ready truck" as they can.

-Al

saxdogg · March 25, 2008

I agree, buy new at that price, and save the hassles of dealing with warranty work on a modded vehicle.

GatorFan · March 25, 2008

I agree. It's the same old song and dance of the dealerships. Just walk away and see what happens. They will eventually find a "sucker" to pay what they want. Shoot, when I bought mine new, the sticker was almost $30K but I talked them down to $24,500 after it was all said and done. They figured they would get some of that back with their financing but I pulled another one and was already pre-approved through my bank. When the salesman said they could beat the percentage rate, I told them they were nuts (I got 0.5% APR from my bank) and they just took one in the rear and walked away. Believe me, they got their money back on the next guy that didn't do the research as you have done. Stick to your guns and go with your gut. For that price, as many have said, you can buy one brand new AND do all the things you want to do with it when you want to. Although it is a very nice looking rig, I would run away! I am always a little leery when I see trucks like this for sale so soon after work has been done. Some people do it right while others just slap it together and sell off the soon-to-be lemon to someone else. Buy the new rig and get that nice warranty! The mods will come in time.