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I'm currently at a Chevy dealer in the waiting room and they just informed me that since my 08 Silverado has a rear window defogger it can't be installed?

 

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08 Silverado Ext. Cab Short bed

Already has remote start

LT1 package

doesn't have rear sliding glass but does have the defogger...

 

Are they right in telling me that it can't be installed? I was under the impression that since I dont have the rear sliding glass there was no issue.

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Are they right in telling me that it can't be installed? I was under the impression that since I dont have the rear sliding glass there was no issue.

 

 

I can't speak for the defogger but I have the Sliding Rear window and my dealer installed the Advanced Two Way Remote with no problems. The tech said he would have to move the antenna to one side which would likely reduce the range. Kind of contradicts with the "official" story but it works great!

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Thanks!! The service manager just came in to apologize and say that they can get it installed but they will have to remove the rear seats... He said he estimates another 2 hours of waiting. :thumbs:

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one other quick question. Where is the antenna supposed to be installed? The service manager just said that they were going to install it behind the second row driver's side headrest. Is that right? I would have thought it should be placed at the top of the window in the middle.

 

Sorry for all the questions. All of the sudden I have no faith in the techs here because they have never installed one before and seem to be flying by the seat of their pants.

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Last week I had a two way remote / extended range kit put on my 08 SD at a custom accessories shop. When I arranged to have this done (along with some other things), I was under the impression that they were going to install the GM kit. Much to my dismay when I picked the truck up, the key fob looked different that what is shown on the GM accessories sight and when I asked them where they mounted the antenna, they pointed at the windshield. It is mounted on the windshield, behind the mirror just like the majority of non-GM remote start antennas.

 

I was worried that this accessory store sold me a POS, but I have been quite impressed with the system they installed. I have been able to start the truck up to two blocks away on completely different streets without line of sight. I’ve also been able to start the truck from inside buildings, which was a problem for my last Viper two way system. I’ve only had it a week and still need to experiment with it, but so far, I’m pretty happy. The big plus with this particular kit is the fob itself. It’s physically smaller than the GM fob that came with the truck.

 

I figured I’d put this information out there because I don’t think there are very many who know that there is an aftermarket solution for extending the OEM remote starts. This was the first extension kit that this particular shop has installed and it took them about three hours to install (which included time to figure out how to do it).

 

The brand is somewhat confusing to me. At the top of the user manual (which is actually a one page document) Auto Mate, “AM14 Data start system for GM with LCD 2way remote” is noted, but the name Directed Electronics on the bottom. I’m assuming Directed Electronics is the parent company. The part number is: P/N 4301A. The shop charged me $300 for the kit, installed.

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Last week I had a two way remote / extended range kit put on my 08 SD at a custom accessories shop. When I arranged to have this done (along with some other things), I was under the impression that they were going to install the GM kit. Much to my dismay when I picked the truck up, the key fob looked different that what is shown on the GM accessories sight and when I asked them where they mounted the antenna, they pointed at the windshield. It is mounted on the windshield, behind the mirror just like the majority of non-GM remote start antennas.

 

I was worried that this accessory store sold me a POS, but I have been quite impressed with the system they installed. I have been able to start the truck up to two blocks away on completely different streets without line of sight. I’ve also been able to start the truck from inside buildings, which was a problem for my last Viper two way system. I’ve only had it a week and still need to experiment with it, but so far, I’m pretty happy. The big plus with this particular kit is the fob itself. It’s physically smaller than the GM fob that came with the truck.

 

I figured I’d put this information out there because I don’t think there are very many who know that there is an aftermarket solution for extending the OEM remote starts. This was the first extension kit that this particular shop has installed and it took them about three hours to install (which included time to figure out how to do it).

 

The brand is somewhat confusing to me. At the top of the user manual (which is actually a one page document) Auto Mate, “AM14 Data start system for GM with LCD 2way remote” is noted, but the name Directed Electronics on the bottom. I’m assuming Directed Electronics is the parent company. The part number is: P/N 4301A. The shop charged me $300 for the kit, installed.

 

Directed Electronics pretty much has a monopoly on the auto security market as they own most of the major brands (Clifford, Python, Viper, Automate, Autostart, etc, etc, etc). They also make components for other alarm companies like Ungo.

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Alright. One last question about this new Advanced Remote. I've searched around and found that most people have a range of about 500'. The one my dealer installed yesterday has a range of about 30'. What do you guys think the problem is? The dealer had no idea how to install it and I'm assuming the antenna is in the wrong place. They put it right behind the second row headrest on the drivers side. Any ideas?

 

Thanks in advance!

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I need to look up the model that you purchased and I don't have time right now to do that but my experience with the Clifford/DEI 2-way remotes on the GMT-900 was that the top-of-line 70.5X had terrible range on my truck (antenna on dash just in front of the light sensor), so I dropped down one model to the 50.5X which uses Spread Spectrum (SST)...now my range is more then 500' if I'm standing outside and about 300' from inside my office building (typical warehouse, tilt-wall, lots of metal in the roof and walls, lots of "containers" (semi trailers) between me and the truck). You might check to see if your model has SST and if not see if there is a comparable model in that brand with SST and swap to that one.

 

Moving the antenna might help but it's not going to change 30' into 500'.

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I found very little info online about the AM14 which makes sense since this product is not marketed directly to end-users. I think the AM14 is just the basic 2-way system that is packaged with the necessary XpressKit modules to make the install easier. It also appears that Automate doesn't offer an SST remote but, if my assumptions about the XpressKit module is correct you could easily have this swapped out for a Viper, Clifford, or Python 2-way system with SST...the cost difference should be minimal but you might have to get your money back on the Automate and go to an authorized Clifford/Viper/Python dealer to get what you really want OR you could attempt to get the OE system (if it will work on your truck).

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