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thefulminator New Member

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I didn't like my dealer's price on new transponder keys for my 2009 Silverado 1500 4x4 crew cab so I bought my own from autotransponder.com and had my local Ace Hardware cut them for me. I tested both of them in the driver's side door lock and they work perfectly. I started to follow the instructions in the owner's manual and had some problems.

 

Per the manual, you are supposed to be able to turn the ingition to LOCK/OFF (position "A") and remove the origianl key. The original key will turn to every position. The new keys won't turn the ignition at all. Is there something I am missing here? The keys worked perfectly in the door but won't turn the ignition. That makes no sense.

 

Here are the instructions I followed:

 

page 2-20

 

To program the new additional key:

 

 

1. Verify that the new key has a 1 stamped on it.

 

 

2. Insert the original, already programmed, key in the

 

ignition and start the engine. If the engine will not

 

start, see your dealer/retailer for service.

 

 

3. After the engine has started, turn the key to

 

LOCK/OFF, and remove the key.

 

 

4. Insert the new key to be programmed and turn it to

 

the ON/RUN position within five seconds of turning

 

the ignition to the LOCK/OFF position in Step 3.

 

The security light will turn off once the key has been

 

programmed.

 

 

5. Repeat Steps 1 through 4 if additional keys are to

 

be programmed.

 

 

If you lose or damage your PASS-Key® III+ key, see

 

your dealer/retailer or a locksmith who can service

 

PASS-Key® III+ to have a new key made.

 

Do not leave the key or device that disarms or

 

deactivates the theft deterrent system in the vehicle.

 

Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

MS3DALE Senior Enthusiast

MS3DALE

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I'm a little confused with all these mentioned "positions" :dunno: Pretty much you just start the truck with an original "programmed" key,remove it,and then start it with the new "unprogramed" key.

Secondly,Are you saying that the new key/keys will not turn at all in the ignition?

Third,I have seen many issues with transponder keys purchased from places other than a GM dealer (IE-Not wanting to program,won't cut correctly,etc.) This is why all the keys I have on stock I buy right from GM,and not from one of the many places who try to sell me their "OE GM keys"

MS3DALE Senior Enthusiast

MS3DALE

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OK,I see you edited your post to make it less confusing,It sounds like the new key/keys won't turn in the ignition? But they work the doors?

They may need to be re-cut (run through the key tracing machine again) or even filed a little bit.

They may even need to be cut using your trucks key code,in other words NOT tracing your original key,but using the key code that your truck has,To do this you must know your trucks key code,then go to a locksmith or GM dealer that has a key-cutting machine capable of cutting keys using the key code.

thefulminator New Member

thefulminator

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Got a little confused on the positions at the begining. The manual says there is four positions but it seems I can turn my key in the opposite direction to a fifth position. That was throwing me off.

 

Yes the keys work perfectly in the door but no joy in the ignition. I can try taking them to a locksmith next week if needed. Can you give me an idea of the price you have seen these at the dealer? Mine wants $54 each.

MS3DALE Senior Enthusiast

MS3DALE

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Well,Since I'm a parts manager at a GM dealer I can give you both the part number and price...part#15824471,and they do list for $49.46

Like I said,I've seen issues with some transponder keys not bought at a GM dealer over these last few years..I know everyone wants to save money,and I can't blame'em,but it seems like trying to save on these keys is a waste of time,and a PITA!

frdfandc Enthusiast

frdfandc

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You will need to go to your local GM dealer with proof of ownership of the vehicle and an ID. Give them the VIN and they can get you a key code.

brims Senior Enthusiast

brims

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Well,Since I'm a parts manager at a GM dealer I can give you both the part number and price...part#15824471,and they do list for $49.46

Like I said,I've seen issues with some transponder keys not bought at a GM dealer over these last few years..I know everyone wants to save money,and I can't blame'em,but it seems like trying to save on these keys is a waste of time,and a PITA!

 

Oh lawdy, $49.46 I need to sit down. Sure would be nice if GM would decide they don't need to make that much profit per item sold. Some things seem a little outrageous. You can buy RFID access cards for a couple dollars a piece which is the same basic design (though slightly different). I can't imagine they buy the keys for more than $5 a piece.

denckeener Enthusiast

denckeener

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I had a similar problem. Keys were not cut correctly by the hardware store and I didn't want to go back because I got them cut for free. Hold the original up to the copy and you'll probably see the difference. Judicious use of some small jewelers files and the new key fit the ignition.

 

Problem was that I wouldn't program. Tried the procedure in the OM several times. Ending up contacting the e-bay merchant and returning the key for refund. Need to check my cc statement to make sure that happened.

 

I think the advice about getting the dealer or at least a local locksmith to cut keys is good. At least then you'll know immediately if they work.

 

Good luck

 

Dennis

denckeener Enthusiast

denckeener

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Why do we even need transponder keys? Sounds like another profit center for GM. I have a RCSB Work Truck that nobody would want to steal. Kinda like when I could leave the keys in my Honda when visiting the Harley store.

sonjaab Senior Enthusiast

sonjaab

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Welcome to the year 2010 !!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Dodge uses the SAME transponder key deal and programming method as GM!

 

For a thrill check out a Camaro, Cadillac or Vette site and see the issues those guys

have with the old VATS (the key with the chip on the top of the shank) security key

systems

vats.jpg

MS3DALE Senior Enthusiast

MS3DALE

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For a thrill check out a Camaro, Cadillac or Vette site and see the issues those guys

have with the old VATS (the key with the chip on the top of the shank) security key

systems

 

 

Boy you aren't kidding!!! I can't tell you how many VATS keys and VATS ignition lock cylinders I've sold over the last 20 years :crazy:

lilnotts Enthusiast

lilnotts

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I purchased keys from ebay, but I got them cut at local locksmith and never had a problem. I think I ended up spending about $15CA on each key. A lot better than $100CA the dealer wanted for each programmed key.

truckofwinandawesome Senior Enthusiast

truckofwinandawesome

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Welcome to the year 2010 !!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Dodge uses the SAME transponder key deal and programming method as GM!

 

For a thrill check out a Camaro, Cadillac or Vette site and see the issues those guys

have with the old VATS (the key with the chip on the top of the shank) security key

systems

vats.jpg

 

at least GM is Cheap, Dodge Charges $1000 for a FwonKING KEY for the Avenger!!

brims Senior Enthusiast

brims

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Why do we even need transponder keys? Sounds like another profit center for GM. I have a RCSB Work Truck that nobody would want to steal. Kinda like when I could leave the keys in my Honda when visiting the Harley store.

 

You can have a tuner disable the key security system in your ECM.

 

at least GM is Cheap, Dodge Charges $1000 for a FwonKING KEY for the Avenger!!

 

I hope that's a typo, that's outrageous, are the Mercedes special German cut keys even that much?

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