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Production Figures

 

COMPANY/PLANT 2010 EST.* MAIN VEHICLE

 

1. Ford/Kansas City, Mo. ------ 437,777 F-series pickup

2. VW/Puebla, Mexico ------ 430,653 Jetta sedan

3. Toyota/Georgetown, Ky.------ 374,421 Camry sedan

4. Honda/Marysville, Ohio ------ 342,786 Accord sedan

5. Nissan/Aguascalientes, Mexico ------ 327,125 Versa sedan

6. Chrysler/Windsor, Ontario ------ 313,244 Dodge Grand Caravan minivan

7. Ford/Hermosillo, Mexico ------ 312,332 Fusion sedan

8. Ford/Dearborn, Mich., Truck Assembly ------ 311,547 F-series pickup

9. GM/Fairfax Assembly, Kansas City, Kan.------ 309,025 Chevrolet Malibu sedan

10. Hyundai/Montgomery, Ala. ------ 308,112 Sonata sedan

 

 

*Estimated year-end figure as of Dec. 25

Source: Automotive News Data Center

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Production Figures

 

COMPANY/PLANT 2010 EST.* MAIN VEHICLE

 

1. Ford/Kansas City, Mo. ------ 437,777 F-series pickup

2. VW/Puebla, Mexico ------ 430,653 Jetta sedan

3. Toyota/Georgetown, Ky.------ 374,421 Camry sedan

4. Honda/Marysville, Ohio ------ 342,786 Accord sedan

5. Nissan/Aguascalientes, Mexico ------ 327,125 Versa sedan

6. Chrysler/Windsor, Ontario ------ 313,244 Dodge Grand Caravan minivan

7. Ford/Hermosillo, Mexico ------ 312,332 Fusion sedan

8. Ford/Dearborn, Mich., Truck Assembly ------ 311,547 F-series pickup

9. GM/Fairfax Assembly, Kansas City, Kan.------ 309,025 Chevrolet Malibu sedan

10. Hyundai/Montgomery, Ala. ------ 308,112 Sonata sedan

 

 

*Estimated year-end figure as of Dec. 25

Source: Automotive News Data Center

 

Aren't low-margin fleet sales wonderful

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Production Figures

 

COMPANY/PLANT 2010 EST.* MAIN VEHICLE

 

1. Ford/Kansas City, Mo. ------ 437,777 F-series pickup

2. VW/Puebla, Mexico ------ 430,653 Jetta sedan

3. Toyota/Georgetown, Ky.------ 374,421 Camry sedan

4. Honda/Marysville, Ohio ------ 342,786 Accord sedan

5. Nissan/Aguascalientes, Mexico ------ 327,125 Versa sedan

6. Chrysler/Windsor, Ontario ------ 313,244 Dodge Grand Caravan minivan

7. Ford/Hermosillo, Mexico ------ 312,332 Fusion sedan

8. Ford/Dearborn, Mich., Truck Assembly ------ 311,547 F-series pickup

9. GM/Fairfax Assembly, Kansas City, Kan.------ 309,025 Chevrolet Malibu sedan

10. Hyundai/Montgomery, Ala. ------ 308,112 Sonata sedan

 

 

*Estimated year-end figure as of Dec. 25

Source: Automotive News Data Center

 

Aren't low-margin fleet sales wonderful

 

What I think is wonderful is how every time Ford does well you find a way to make it seem bad. I bet I rented damn near 30 cars in 2010 and maybe 4 or 5 of those were from Ford and well over half were GM, the rest being a scattering of imports.

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What I think is wonderful is how every time Ford does well you find a way to make it seem bad. I bet I rented damn near 30 cars in 2010 and maybe 4 or 5 of those were from Ford and well over half were GM, the rest being a scattering of imports.

 

You do realize that Ford had the SECOND HIGHEST percentage of fleet sales only behind Chrysler right?

 

This is January through July:

 

Chrysler Group 39%

Ford Motor 35%

General Motors 31%

Hyundai brand 16%

Nissan North America 15%*

Toyota Motor Sales 9%

American Honda 2%*

 

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What I think is wonderful is how every time Ford does well you find a way to make it seem bad. I bet I rented damn near 30 cars in 2010 and maybe 4 or 5 of those were from Ford and well over half were GM, the rest being a scattering of imports.

 

You do realize that Ford had the SECOND HIGHEST percentage of fleet sales only behind Chrysler right?

 

This is January through July:

 

Chrysler Group 39%

Ford Motor 35%

General Motors 31%

Hyundai brand 16%

Nissan North America 15%*

Toyota Motor Sales 9%

American Honda 2%*

 

LINK

 

8% separates the domestic brands. Not exactly ground breaking numbers.

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obviously ford is doing something right and it just can't be low pricing because im pretty sure gm and other brands give cheap pricing for fleets. i think fords are a quality made truck just as gm

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8% separates the domestic brands. Not exactly ground breaking numbers.

 

You would think the way you cheer lead for Ford, and claim that their products are good, they wouldn't have to resort to fleet dumping...more fleet dumping than GM.

 

And how much money do you think Ford is making when they sell a crew cab Sooper Doody for $23K? My guess is nothing.

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Ford still sucks, Mike. Might as well get used to it.

Like I've said in the past, I'm looking at both and it will be a "may the best truck win" sort of thing that will be the deciding factor as long as both dealers will be willing to deal. I've owned both and to be honest my 2 GMs were absolute garbage but I still like the 900s and am willing to give them another chance even though most would argue that 2 crapboxes is enough to write them off.

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8% separates the domestic brands. Not exactly ground breaking numbers.

 

You would think the way you cheer lead for Ford, and claim that their products are good, they wouldn't have to resort to fleet dumping...more fleet dumping than GM.

 

And how much money do you think Ford is making when they sell a crew cab Sooper Doody for $23K? My guess is nothing.

 

Way to skirt the fact that 4% separates GM from Ford. Depending on the numbers, that difference could be one large fleet order. And a sale is a sale.

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8% separates the domestic brands. Not exactly ground breaking numbers.

 

You would think the way you cheer lead for Ford, and claim that their products are good, they wouldn't have to resort to fleet dumping...more fleet dumping than GM.

 

And how much money do you think Ford is making when they sell a crew cab Sooper Doody for $23K? My guess is nothing.

 

Way to skirt the fact that 4% separates GM from Ford. Depending on the numbers, that difference could be one large fleet order. And a sale is a sale.

 

 

Well, I have the numbers...and using the easier 5% (rather than the correct 4%), that is a 9,985 vehicle purchase for GM and 8,521 for Ford.

 

Either way...Ford is STILL fleet dumping....which is the point.

 

You called me out for saying that fleet dumps, then when I PROVED to you that they do, you change directions and attempt to down play it.

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