Jump to content

Tuning Afm Out Hurt Gas Mileage?


Recommended Posts

Posted

Just put a dynomax cat back system on my truck this weekend. I love the sound until V4 kicks in. One option to cure the drone is to tune the AFM out with a black bear tune or the like. Does anyone have any feedback on whether this hurt their gas mileage dramatically. Right now my truck gets 17-18 in town and 20-21 on the highway.

Posted

I've noticed very, very little drop in mileage. Probably amounts to .2 mpg or less and in my opinion it's well worth it to get rid of that awful lawn tractor sound. Also much smoother on the highway without all the jumping back and forth.

Posted

For me.. and my previous Vmax 6.0L, I ran a 2 week test with it on, and with it turned off using my diablo tuner. I saw no difference in mileage either way so I turned it off. I drove approx 300 miles each week and saw no difference. :)

 

Guys with the 5.3L however have reported results. So it's a toss up.

Posted
I've noticed very, very little drop in mileage. Probably amounts to .2 mpg or less and in my opinion it's well worth it to get rid of that awful lawn tractor sound. Also much smoother on the highway without all the jumping back and forth.

 

What you mean smoother? Isn't the system switching undetectable?

Posted
I've noticed very, very little drop in mileage. Probably amounts to .2 mpg or less and in my opinion it's well worth it to get rid of that awful lawn tractor sound. Also much smoother on the highway without all the jumping back and forth.

 

What you mean smoother? Isn't the system switching undetectable?

 

Nope. Not on all vehicles

Posted

If I could add my .2 cents. I believe if you have great driving habits and not a lead foot, yes AFM can actually help you out and give you better gas mileage.

 

I have actually gotten so good at feathering the pedal I can keep a constant speed between 28 mph and about 45 mph with just AFM or V4 mode. This feathering of the pedal has saved me lots of gas and money. I can get about 2 weeks out of my tank when I feather the pedal, and thats with my normal driving mileage of around 12,000 miles a year.

 

However when I gas it a lot it only last me about a week, so AFM in my case has been very helpful.

Posted

My feeling (no data) is that AFM works pretty well with the 4-spd/3.73 and 4.10 setup. With the 6-spd/3.42 or 3.08... I just can't see it helping that much.

Posted

My dad's truck had AFM and your could definately feel it. It was intensified with the new exhaust. With the black bear tune he turned it off, the mileage actually increased combined with the tune.

Posted

There are too many variables in this to come to a good conclusion. Because none of us drive the same way, the same roads or the same truck for that matter. Here are what I have observed with my 09 5.3. I drove the truck without a tune for about 4000 miles. The AFM would kick in only when I was on a down hill slope or very flat straight. If I even thought of putting my foot on the pedal it would switch back to V8. I could not tell when it switched on or off. I had to look at the DIC to let me know. Since my tune I now have about 11000 miles on it. My mileage has not changed at all. The DIC readout has stayed at or around 14.3 miles since I picked it up from the dealer. It's about right with hand calculations I get +/- 1 mpg from what the readout says. Hope that helps.

Posted
If I could add my .2 cents. I believe if you have great driving habits and not a lead foot, yes AFM can actually help you out and give you better gas mileage.

 

I have actually gotten so good at feathering the pedal I can keep a constant speed between 28 mph and about 45 mph with just AFM or V4 mode. This feathering of the pedal has saved me lots of gas and money. I can get about 2 weeks out of my tank when I feather the pedal, and thats with my normal driving mileage of around 12,000 miles a year.

 

However when I gas it a lot it only last me about a week, so AFM in my case has been very helpful.

 

thank you, I am currently getting 19.4mpg overall (over a 6 month period) on my 5.3L 4x4 with 3.42 gears and the 6 speed. all about driving habits, I drive the same way as you describe, and I can get between 600 - 700 miles per tank, which is nearly 3 weeks for me with normal driving.. on 2 trips (over 200 miles each way) I saw 24mpg averaging 60mph on the highway with cruise set on mostly flat land..

 

 

it's all about your driving habits..

 

 

 

My feeling (no data) is that AFM works pretty well with the 4-spd/3.73 and 4.10 setup. With the 6-spd/3.42 or 3.08... I just can't see it helping that much.

 

see above, but then I can't compare it to a 4sp as I never had one..

Posted
If I could add my .2 cents. I believe if you have great driving habits and not a lead foot, yes AFM can actually help you out and give you better gas mileage.

 

I have actually gotten so good at feathering the pedal I can keep a constant speed between 28 mph and about 45 mph with just AFM or V4 mode. This feathering of the pedal has saved me lots of gas and money. I can get about 2 weeks out of my tank when I feather the pedal, and thats with my normal driving mileage of around 12,000 miles a year.

 

However when I gas it a lot it only last me about a week, so AFM in my case has been very helpful.

 

 

bingo. I have just recently started doing this. accelerating going down hill and coast to stop lights works wonders and jumps in v4 easily.

Posted

I actually saw a slight increase in my MPGs. I had the AFM turned off through the BB tune. IMO dump the AFM. You can always turn it back on.

Posted
If I could add my .2 cents. I believe if you have great driving habits and not a lead foot, yes AFM can actually help you out and give you better gas mileage.

 

I have actually gotten so good at feathering the pedal I can keep a constant speed between 28 mph and about 45 mph with just AFM or V4 mode. This feathering of the pedal has saved me lots of gas and money. I can get about 2 weeks out of my tank when I feather the pedal, and thats with my normal driving mileage of around 12,000 miles a year.

 

However when I gas it a lot it only last me about a week, so AFM in my case has been very helpful.

 

thank you, I am currently getting 19.4mpg overall (over a 6 month period) on my 5.3L 4x4 with 3.42 gears and the 6 speed. all about driving habits, I drive the same way as you describe, and I can get between 600 - 700 miles per tank, which is nearly 3 weeks for me with normal driving.. on 2 trips (over 200 miles each way) I saw 24mpg averaging 60mph on the highway with cruise set on mostly flat land..

 

 

it's all about your driving habits..

 

 

 

 

My feeling (no data) is that AFM works pretty well with the 4-spd/3.73 and 4.10 setup. With the 6-spd/3.42 or 3.08... I just can't see it helping that much.

 

see above, but then I can't compare it to a 4sp as I never had one..

 

Gas mileage has way more to do with driving terrain (hills), head/tail wind, and city/hwy than how you use the gas pedal. I was waiting for a mileage thread to start...they always do when gas gets much over $3.00 :)

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Forum Statistics

    250.4k
    Total Topics
    2.7m
    Total Posts
  • Member Statistics

    342,840
    Total Members
    8,960
    Most Online
    appletrav
    Newest Member
    appletrav
    Joined
  • Who's Online   3 Members, 0 Anonymous, 383 Guests (See full list)

  • Latest Articles

  • Posts

    • This is a 1/2 ton thing ONLY.  All HDs 2020-2026 have the two speed transfer case, with Autotrac as an option.     1/2 tons 2019-2026, regular 4x4s come with a single speed case (no 4LO!), and trucks with Z71 ordered, or all Trail Boss trucks come with the 2 speed case.  2 speed case is also an option on WT, and is also standard on High Country.  
    • 2013 5.3 still to this day calls for the PF48 filter.  Which as a 15psi bypass pressure.     There is a TSB, 17-NA-157 that talks about the PF-63 and PF-64 filters which have a higher bypass rating of 22psi.    TSB HERE - temp.xml   "Beginning in 2012, the oil pumps began to regulate main gallery feedback instead of pump out pressure. This means that the oil pump now does not begin to regulate until pressure is built up to the main gallery. This change reduces the amount of time it takes to provide oil to the engine bearing and lifters during extreme cold start conditions.  Main gallery feedback oil pump control systems are present on the following engine families which use Spin-on oil filters: Small Gas Engine (SGE), Large Gas Engine (LGE), High Feature (HFV6) Gen2 and Small Block Gen5 gasoline engines. These engines with the main gallery feedback oil pump control systems are factory built with an ACDelco® oil filters"   It also calls out what engines use those filters.  The gen 4 small blocks were not on that list (LMG, LC9, L9H, L92, L94, L20, L96).  Gen 5 small blocks use the higher pressure filter.          That all said...   Your 7045 Napa filter is the PF63 equivalent, with 22psi bypass.  You are already using the higher bypass pressure filter.  You CAN keep using it, you don't technically have to use it though.  
    • Do you know WHY the filter relief setting was increased to 22 psig?    When the new system goes into the second stage the pump volume ramps up considerably. It was found that the 15 psi filter bypass setting put the filter in bypass on a warm engine when the second stage was activated. Raising the filter bypass setting forced the filter to do what it designed to do. Filter. Preventing debris from circulating during high load, high rpm operation.    So next question is how did GM find this out? VLOM/lifter failures and a deep dive by Melling Corp.    Last question. Is it required? Look at it like this; a motor may be equipped with a rev limiter. But it only works if the set point in reached. That 22 psig setting only matters if the pressure differential across the filter media exceeds 15 psig during normal warm operation. Second stage kicks in around 3000-3500 rpm.    I can't answer your question because I don't know you and how you use the truck. But I think there is enough information here to let you decide for yourself. 😉
    • Probably not their first rodeo, so it should go as planned most likely.  Typically the service manager or tech doing the swap will put some seat time to shake it down after they get it all put back together.  We usually put 50-100mi before we hand them back so if something happens, its not after you get it.  A coolant leaks, oil leaks, a ground left off or loose, vibration, etc.     The new engines so far have been good?  There's been a couple that have popped out there again (the replacement engine) but most have been okay.  
  • GM-Trucks.com Clubs

  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...