Does your money stay here?

[Shotgun]

None of us has time to waste so I wouldn't pass this on unless it was worth it. Hope you'll clean it up and pass it on too.

 

The Saudis are boycotting American Goods. We should return the favor An interesting thought, GAS.

 

Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just buy from gas companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis. Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill-up the tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my family, and my friends.

 

I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil companies are the best to buy gas from.

 

Major companies that import Middle Eastern oil (for the period 9/1/00 - 8/31/01).

 

Shell................ 205,742,000 barrels

Chevron/Texaco....... 144,332,000 barrels

Exxon /Mobil......... 130,082,000 barrels

Marathon/Speedway.. 117,740,000 barrels

Amoco................ 62,231,000 barrels

If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18 BILLION!

 

Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:

 

Citgo................ 0 barrels

Sunoco............. 0 barrels

Conoco............. 0 barrels

Sinclair.............. 0 barrels

BP/Phillips......... 0 barrels

Hess.................. 0 barrels

 

All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and can be easily documented. Refineries located in the U.S. are required to state where they get their oil and how much they are importing. They report on a monthly basis.

 

Keep this list in your car; share it with friends. Stop paying for terrorism............Gun :thumb:

[k1500chevy97]

Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just buy from gas companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis.

I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil companies are the best to buy gas from.

 

Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:

Conoco............. 0 barrels

:thumb:

Alright so we buy 9000 gallons of non-terrorist petroleum products 7 times a year . COOL  :thumb:

 

[JonesNTN]

I thought BP and amoco merged? ???

[99silveradoz71]

Ah, I'm glad I run only that Sunoco card for my fuel needs.

[sincityZ71]

I thought BP and amoco merged? ???

Yeah they did, so that stat is wrong now, they are one company, and have been for a few years now, BPAmaco...and BP is the parent company now I believe...

 

I run pure Chevron gas, nothing else, don't plan on changing either.  Wouldn't matter anyways, the only gas companies out here are Chevron/Texaco, Mobil/Exxon, and Shell.  There is a couple Citgo places, but I don't like their gas or their prices.

[JonesNTN]

If this report is coming out on a Monthly Basis, then why is this report over 2 years old? I need more facts before i just change brands of gas. Sorry.....

[General Lee 01]

Technically, that stat is not wrong.

 

BP still uses Ammoco brand oils in the Ammoco stores they took over when this deal  took place.

 

And the BP stations that were  originally BPs use BP brand oils.

 

It may sound stupid, but that's the way it is. If you don't believe me I'll try to snap yall some pics of the BP signs that say "We still use ammoco brand fuels".

[TxDoc]

This is a recurring internet email hoax:

Claim:   Spurning gasoline from Shell, Chevron, Texaco, Exxon, and Mobil will cut off the funding of terrorists.

 

Status:   False.

 

Example:   [Collected on the Internet, 2002]

 

 

Nothing is more frustrating to me than the feeling that every time I fill-up the tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my family, and my friends. It turns out that some oil companies import a lot of middle eastern oil and others do not import any. I thought it might be interesting for Americans to know which oil companies are the best to buy their gas from.

 

Here is the list:

 

Top 4 companies that import middle eastern oil (for the period 9/1/00 - 8/31/01). By the way, 86% of all middle eastern oil comes from Saudi Arabia and Iraq.

 

Shell 205,742,000 barrels of oil

Chevron/Texaco 144,332,000

Exxon/Mobil 130,082,000

Marathon 117,740,000

 

If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to about $18 billion. That's a lot of money.

 

Here are some large companies that do not import much Middle Eastern oil:

 

Citgo 0 barrels of oil

Sunoco 0

Conoco 0

Sinclair 0

Phillips 0

BP Amoco 62,231,000

 

All this information is available from the Department of Energy and can be easily documented. Refineries located in the U.S. are required to state where they get their oil and how much they are importing. They report on a monthly basis.

 

Keep this list in your car; share it with friends. Stop paying for terrorism!

 

Origins:   If it weren't for all the gross statistical errors and the naïve grasp of oil industry economics exhibited here, this piece might actually have some validity.

 

Although the message quoted above doesn't address where (outside of the Middle East) we import oil from, many people come away from reading it with the mistaken impression that most of the USA's crude oil is imported from the Middle East. It isn't. According to the most recent figures regarding crude oil imports, only 31% of the USA's imports came from Arab OPEC countries (Algeria, Iraq, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Arabia) in January 2002. The top six countries (by percentage of total USA imports) supplying crude oil to the USA in January 2002 were:

 

Saudi Arabia:   16.9%

Mexico:   15.1%

Canada:   15.0%

Venezuela:   14.4%

Iraq:   11.4%

Nigeria:   5.9.%

 

(Henceforth, our definition of "Middle East" will encompass the five countries identified by the U.S. Department of Energy as "Arab OPEC" nations: Algeria, Iraq, Kuwait, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia. This definition does not include other oil-exporting countries identifed by the DoE as "Persian Gulf" exporters, such as Bahrain, Iran, and the United Arab Emirates.)

 

Moving along, we find that nearly all of the statistics offered in the piece quoted above are erroneous or outdated:

 

 

By the way, 86% of all middle eastern oil comes from Saudi Arabia and Iraq.

 

Sorry, but no. According to the chart below, straight off the U.S. Department of Energy's (DoE) web site , only 56% of the oil exported from the Persian Gulf in 2001 came from Saudi Arabia and Iraq, and that figure is probably even lower now that Iraq has cut its oil exports in protest of Israel's recent actions on the West Bank.

 

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Here are some large companies that do not import much Middle Eastern oil:

 

Citgo 0 barrels of oil

Sunoco 0

Conoco 0

Sinclair 0

Phillips 0

BP Amoco 62,231,000

 

Wrong again. The DoE tracks oil imports by company each month, and although the raw data are a little hard to follow (fortunately, the DoE also provides an explanation of their symbols), for February 2002 the totals were as follows:

 

   * CITGO is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the national oil company of Venezuela, so naturally most of its crude oil comes from there. However, in February 2002 CITGO also imported from Middle Eastern countries in the following quantities:

 

     Iraq:   1,342,000 barrels

     Kuwait:   437,000 barrels

 

   * Conoco imports primarily from Mexico, Venezuela, and Canada, and not from Middle Eastern countries. However, they are planning to merge with Phillips, which does import from Middle Eastern countries (see below).

 

   * BP imports from a variety of oil-producing countries, but in February 2002 BP North America also imported from Middle Eastern countries in the following quantities:

 

     Iraq:   470,000 barrels

     Kuwait:   415,000 barrels

     Saudi Arabia:   2,123,000 barrels

     Algeria:   3,853,000 barrels

 

   * Phillips also imports from a variety of oil-producing countries, but in February 2002 Phillips imported from Middle Eastern countries in the following quantities:

 

     Iraq:   717,000 barrels

     Saudi Arabia:   1,100,000 barrels

 

   * Sinclair imports from Canada, not the Middle East.

 

   * Sunoco imports primarily from Canada, Angola, and Nigeria, not Middle Eastern countries.

 

So, "doing the math" and multiplying these monthly figures by $30/barrel and projecting them over the course of a year, supporting only the companies listed above would still be putting $3.76 billion dollars per year in the coffers of Middle Eastern countries.

 

Statistics aside, the glaring fallacy here is the suggestion that we could possibly buy our gasoline only from these selected companies. This notion is like claiming that we could put the big grocery chains out of business if we all bought our food only from small mom & pop stores, but ignoring the fact that these small shops couldn't possibly come close to supplying all our grocery needs. The oil companies named above are relatively small (which is a large part of the reason why they don't necessarily import from the Middle East) and could not satisfy the demand that would be created if a significant portion of the USA's consumer base were to shun all the largest oil companies, unless they bought up the output of the companies we were supposed to be avoiding in the first place (or, alternatively, unless they raised their prices sky-high).

 

Moreover, the idea that oil companies sell gasoline only through their branded service stations -- and therefore if you don't buy gasoline from Shell-branded gas stations you're not sending money to Shell (or, by extension, the Middle East) -- is wrong. Oil companies sell their output through a variety of outlets other than their branded stations; as well, by the time crude oil gets from the ground into our gasoline tanks, there's no telling exactly where it came from. (A good deal of the crude oil purchased from Russia, for example, is oil from Iraqi fields sold through Russian middlemen.)

 

As the St. Louis Post-Dispatch noted:

 

 

Economics Prof. Pat Welch of St. Louis University says any boycott of "bad guy" gasoline in favor of "good guy" brands would have some unintended (and unhappy) results.

 

Although foreign relations wax and wane, Welch says, the law of supply and demand is set in stone. "To meet the sudden demand," he says, "the good guys would have to buy gasoline wholesale from the bad guys, who are suddenly stuck with unwanted gasoline."

 

So motorists would end up buying Arab oil anyway -- and paying more for it, because they'd be buying it at fewer stations.

 

And yes, oil companies do buy and sell from one another. Mike Right of AAA Missouri says, "If a company has a station that can be served more economically by a competitor's refinery, they'll do it."

 

Right adds, "In some cases, gasoline retailers have no refinery at all. Some convenience-store chains sell a lot of gasoline -- and buy it all from somebody else's refinery."

 

St. Louis University's Welch says, "The e-mail presupposes that you know who the supplier is, and that's not always the case."

 

Finally, what this scheme proposes is merely a symbolic solution rather than a practical one, because even if the USA stopped importing oil from the Middle East, other countries will still purchase it. (Japan alone, for example, generally buys as much or more oil from countries such as Saudi Arabia and Kuwait than the USA does.)

 

Complex problems rarely lend themselves to simple, painless answers. Simply shifting where we buy gasoline isn't nearly as good a solution as the much tougher choice of sharply curtailing the amount of gasoline we buy.

 

 

You can go to http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/nogas.htm and read this.

 

Sorry

[Kansas Kid]

Well if anyone is still interested, here is a link to the actual YTD imports of middle eastern oil by the major petroleum companies.  All of them import from the middle east, just some less then others.

 

Crude Oil imports

[Shotgun]

Well Doc that again is someones opinion,probably funded by chevron .I copied and pasted this info out of an e mail I recieved today,thought it was intresting,it doesn't take much thinking to figure out that if you buy from a company that uses mostly domestic oil it promotes domestic exploration and production,,sorry

[95whtZR2]

Y'all won't believe this but in my hometown in Texas, there is a Chevron station with the usual middleastern owners. Well some of my friends walked in there and they asked them how they felt about 9/11. That was a mistake. My friends told me that the Middle Eastern Man told them he was glad to see americans die, and that he is excited by the fact of killing Americans with there own money (meaning he takes the money he makes here, and sends it back home). I was like   when they told me this. I don't want to believe them, but the guys who own the store have always had "shifty eyes" whenever I would walk in there. Yes my friends did tell me this sometime in September '02, but seeing this post made me remeber it. These type of m########### A####### make me want to    Anyway, I am trying to cram for my 3 finals tomorrow (back to back) so good luck to everyone else!

[sincityZ71]

Well if anyone is still interested, here is a link to the actual YTD imports of middle eastern oil by the major petroleum companies.  All of them import from the middle east, just some less then others.

 

Crude Oil imports

Good link Kyle, that is a list I would trust, it actually comes from the DOE, not some email that people are aimlessly sending and saying it is from the DOE...

 

And you have to figure that Chevron would have alot of oil from the gulf, because they were the first company to discover oil and process it in that region in 1937...

[BDBWTE]

I won't buy anything from those assholes there are a few stations here with those Indian, saudi, wtfe. looking mothers and I chanced running the truck out of gas to go to an american owned company with names like bill and paul not Muhamid, and Camelsass or what ever.  As far as the oil goes I think of it like this it's our oil they are just borrowing it from us and when they get the bright idea to try and charge us to much for oil we will get it back.  Good ole pres Bush is a gun toting republican and thus we will take our oil back by force.  There isn't a country in the world that by themselves could face the U.S.A  in combat.  Once we go over and flew our military muscles once again to the imperial gaurd they will be like F@#k this and see things our way.. Ain't it a great thing to live in the most powerful country in the world??

               

[maggot]

On this boycot issue. I know the arabs are evil and that crap about  Islam, Muslem being a religion is a joke. I do not trust any of them. Period. I will admit this and  I am proud to say I am racist to all them. And I figure they all are terror deiven to destroy the USA.  But consider China. China is an organized enemy, every toy, 99% of clothing and shoes, and a bunch of other goods are made in China. China industry profit goes right into their military. Don't let thie pissant Islams take our focus off China. China is just as peaceful as Islam and Muslims are . China has a billion or so peaceful people. China has  very good hardware that the USA gave them , that they can get their peaceful weapons on American soil. Think about that folks. Every "Made in China" tab is a donation to the China military machine.

[CMNTMXR81]

If I boycot this, then I just as well live in a cardboard box because I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't boycot everything else.

 

I couldn't enjoy my Sony A/V equipment as it's made in Japan and I couldn't enjoy the HP laptop I use to scan the cars with cause it's made in Malaysia.  Even my good ol American Dell computer has internals made over in another land.

 

About the only thing made in the U.S. anymore is the McDonald's cheeseburger I eat and the truck I drive, but then again, that's only it's "final assembly point".  A lot of what goes into it was made in many other places around the globe.  Heck, that cardboard box I'd be living in is probably made in China too.

 

Point is, to enjoy affordable gasoline to drive and ride my toys, I unfortunately have to pay these terrorists.  Unless you know of some secret reserve in *cough* Alaska *cough* that could be tapped and last us another 100 years.

 

BTW, I've gotten this e-mail about 20 times.  Seems as though everyone who knows I'm a gearhead seems to feel I need to see this.