3/4 ton to 1 ton axle swap

riverhawk · August 2, 2012

I have a 06 2500hd with 10.5 14 bolt srw. Can I swap it with a AAM 11.5 srw 11.5 axle?

markw8 · August 3, 2012

Can I ask why you want to do this?

Mark

riverhawk · August 3, 2012

More selections of lockers available.

kstruckcountry · August 4, 2012

Good reason! I can't tell you the answer, you may have to do some measuring. Someone on here may know though, so bump!

Ranger · August 4, 2012

I don't see why it wouldn't bolt up directly as the chassis the same otherwise. The only differences I could think of are the driveshafts and maybe brakes. the 11.5" is usually paired with a Duramax or big block 8.1

Doug_Scott · August 5, 2012

More selections of lockers available.

Is there a particular locker you are looking at? I can understand there are more to choose from, but, you only need the one.

I have zero knowledge of what either rear axle comes with, but, my concerns would be with brakes (diameter and type, interaction of ABS), parking brake (compatible mounts and activation method), suspension mounts (size and location), and pinion flange (for both correct u-joint, pinion angle, and length of driveshaft).

Do both axles have same bolt circle and number of studs? Are both rear axles full floating? Is the diameter of the hole in the middle of the rim the same size on both axles (are the wheels interchangable between the two rear axles)?

Based on my experiences, those are the immediate concerns I would have if I were doing this. I don't have the answers, but, those are the questions.

ATMINF · August 6, 2012

the GMT 800 3/4 and 1 ton chassis are the same. the spring packs are the main difference. I am not sure if the srw 3500 with the 6.0L came with a 10.5 or 11.5 14 both FF rear? The only thing I remember reading that made the difference if you had the 10.5 vs 11.5 was the 8.1 or Dmax as stated earlier.

riverhawk · August 6, 2012

To start I thank everyone for your replies.To answer Doug, I want to use a detroit truetrac. For some reason a 10.5 is the only 14 bolt version they don't make. And yes both size axles use the same wheel. Both are full floaters. I know the later model 11.5 have bigger u-joints. But there's a adapter pinon shaft kit for that. The angles should be the same or atleast close enough. The drive shaft length will be different on 2 wheel models but I've got 4 wheel drive so I think it will be same length if they use the same xfer case. The brakes are'nt a problem. would just use the ones that came with the axle it came with. The only problem may be the leaf spring eye to eye length as ATMINF stated. I'll have to measure one. Thanks again.

Riverjet502 · August 7, 2012

My '04 3500 srw with 6.0L came with the 11.5 inch, 14 bolt rear. Interchangeability should be no problem. Especially if you can find the whole donor truck to get y our parts from.

Prokopchuk_9 · August 9, 2012

I don't see why it wouldn't bolt up directly as the chassis the same otherwise. The only differences I could think of are the driveshafts and maybe brakes. the 11.5" is usually paired with a Duramax or big block 8.1

You are correct sir. IMO should bolt up I would say...

Prokopchuk_9 · August 9, 2012

My '04 3500 srw with 6.0L came with the 11.5 inch, 14 bolt rear. Interchangeability should be no problem. Especially if you can find the whole donor truck to get y our parts from.

Are you shir?? I never seen that before..I've only seen duallies or duramax with them.

ATMINF · August 9, 2012

8.1 Big Block also came with the 11.5 rear

Riverjet502 · August 10, 2012

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Diesail · August 10, 2012

AAM makes a Torsen limited slip for the 10.5. Dodge uses them. I know the AAM unit for the 11.5 is a 2:1 torque bias and the True-trac is a 3:1, I would assume the 10.5 is also a 2:1 bias, so it it doesn't transfer as much torque as the the True-Trac, but it would save you an axle swap and they are cheaper than the True-Trac.

Ranger · August 11, 2012

My '04 3500 srw with 6.0L came with the 11.5 inch, 14 bolt rear. Interchangeability should be no problem. Especially if you can find the whole donor truck to get y our parts from.

Are you shir?? I never seen that before..I've only seen duallies or duramax with them.

3500s are still considered 1 ton trucks even with SRW I believe...