Anybody towing with lift and wheels?

[hardcore-gm]

This is for the guys with 4" lift + with upgraded wheels and tires.. Does anybody tow a significant load or trailer while lifted? Reason I ask is I have a 6.2 with the 3.42 gears and pull a 7k travel trailer several times a year. The 6.2 obviously is more than adequate even with my level and WD hitch. But eventually I was looking to go with 6" lift and 33" tires with 22" wheels. It does have headers, catback, cai, and a tune from Lew. Will a 6" lift be a problem pulling a 7k trailer and the 3.42 gears?? Thanks guys!

[Barman84]

6 hours ago, hardcore-gm said:

This is for the guys with 4" lift + with upgraded wheels and tires.. Does anybody tow a significant load or trailer while lifted? Reason I ask is I have a 6.2 with the 3.42 gears and pull a 7k travel trailer several times a year. The 6.2 obviously is more than adequate even with my level and WD hitch. But eventually I was looking to go with 6" lift and 33" tires with 22" wheels. It does have headers, catback, cai, and a tune from Lew. Will a 6" lift be a problem pulling a 7k trailer and the 3.42 gears?? Thanks guys!

I pull a trailer from time to time with gear it’s around 7200 pounds.

 

i have a 2014 LT with a 5.3.  35s and a 9” lift on 20x12s running a hybrid tire.  

 

However I’m also running 4.10s.  Proof in the pudding I recently pcs’d to Fort Lewis from fort sill.  Oklahoma to Tacoma Washington and pulled the trailer all the way here plus extra weight in my bed and cab.  

 

qith that being said I went up from 3.23s so it’s a huge improvement.  With 33s on a 6” lift is probably still get 4.10s.  The droveabilty will be so much better.

[hardcore-gm]

8 hours ago, Barman84 said:

I pull a trailer from time to time with gear it’s around 7200 pounds.

 

i have a 2014 LT with a 5.3.  35s and a 9” lift on 20x12s running a hybrid tire.  

 

However I’m also running 4.10s.  Proof in the pudding I recently pcs’d to Fort Lewis from fort sill.  Oklahoma to Tacoma Washington and pulled the trailer all the way here plus extra weight in my bed and cab.  

 

qith that being said I went up from 3.23s so it’s a huge improvement.  With 33s on a 6” lift is probably still get 4.10s.  The droveabilty will be so much better.

Thanks for the input man. What was the cost putting in the 4.10s?

[jimmyboy8301]

5 minutes ago, hardcore-gm said:

Thanks for the input man. What was the cost putting in the 4.10s?

probably around $1500 for a shop to do it with parts and install. The F/R gears with master install kits are at least $600 plus probably a little less than a G for install. 

[hardcore-gm]

21 minutes ago, jimmyboy8301 said:

probably around $1500 for a shop to do it with parts and install. The F/R gears with master install kits are at least $600 plus probably a little less than a G for install. 

What made you decide to go with 4.10s? From doing a little reading, the 6.2 with just 33s and 4.10 might be a little overkill. The 3.73 not enough? I dont know much about these details. 

[jimmyboy8301]

15 minutes ago, hardcore-gm said:

What made you decide to go with 4.10s? From doing a little reading, the 6.2 with just 33s and 4.10 might be a little overkill. The 3.73 not enough? I dont know much about these details. 

i have 3.23's, if i was going to re-gear i'd do 3.73s since i have an 8spd. on my 2005 i went from 3.73 to 4.10.

[Barman84]

1 hour ago, hardcore-gm said:

What made you decide to go with 4.10s? From doing a little reading, the 6.2 with just 33s and 4.10 might be a little overkill. The 3.73 not enough? I dont know much about these details. 

Mathematically speaking I wasn’t going to drop money on a new gearing btw it was closer to 2800 3.23 and lower trucks requiring new carriers as well.  So I upgraded both the front and rear to something just a little better than the g80.

 

i wanted to be as close or closer to the high row package with 3.73s from the factory gearing wise.  

 

https://www.rocky-road.com/calculator.html

 

with heavier tires and more air resistance to move on the highway having higher gears will  help a lot.  Before gearing my truck would constantly hunt gears on the highway with the lift and tires.  After it doesn’t and pulling my trailer up hills still doesn’t.  

 

Also im no joke pulling over 20 on the highway and Pretty dang close to stock mileage city wise.   

 

Using the the calculator to be close to stock is 3.62s for you.  I’m guessing you have an 8 speed with. 6.2.  Even in my truck with a 6 speed.  At 70 stock I was running 1725 rpm with 4.10s in right at 2k keep in mind the stall in these trucks is set to 1800-1900 so it’s going to be happiest towing if your running in that band while towing or a little over.  

 

Also my trans temps dropped significantly with the gearing.  It takes less energy to get my truck moving.  Trust me when I say it 4.10s would be way better in the long run.  Especially if you decide to go from a 33 to a 35 as you can with a 6 inch lift. 

[Barman84]

3 hours ago, hardcore-gm said:

Thanks for the input man. What was the cost putting in the 4.10s?

It was close to 3k for me.  However that’s before they came out with the ring adapter for the 3.23 and lower feared trucks so probably more like 1800 now.  However I upgraded my front and rear diffs instead of just using a basic g80.  

 

4wheelparts did mine with a lifetime warranty on the gears and locker as long as I own the truck.  Having broken some diffs in my life that in Iredell was worth anything over a mom and pop garage would save over a few hundred bucks.  I usually keep trucks for 10 years or so so it’s well worth it to me.

[dieselfan1]

Why only 33's with a 6" lift?

My 1500 with 22 " rims has

285- 45 -22  32.2" tires stock. 

I would think a 295 -55- 22 which is 34.75 " tall would fit no problem. Maybe even something bigger than that. But that's just me. You may have your own reasons . Maybe you are not regearing . The 6.2 should overcome it some though. Also if you are not towing all the time who cares about a few miles per gallon. The truck will look cool either way 

[hardcore-gm]

30 minutes ago, dieselfan1 said:

Why only 33's with a 6" lift?

My 1500 with 22 " rims has

285- 45 -22  32.2" tires stock. 

I would think a 295 -55- 22 which is 34.75 " tall would fit no problem. Maybe even something bigger than that. But that's just me. You may have your own reasons . Maybe you are not regearing . The 6.2 should overcome it some though. Also if you are not towing all the time who cares about a few miles per gallon. The truck will look cool either way 

I would definitely consider bigger than 33s but only reasons against would be power loss, mpg loss, expense.. Im not sold on 33s. But all those small reasons add up when pulling 7k trailer. Thanks for all the input guys I appreciate it! It doesnt seem worth it to me for that amount of cash to regear, even to 4.10s. Barman84 to answer your question I have a 6 speed. For the amount of money that it takes to regear, I might as well save up for a used supercharger. I only put on 5-10k miles a year and 95% of that is daily driving or non tow. For that reason I believe the 6.2 with 6 spd tranny and 3.42 will be sufficient with 6" lift and 22s with 35s.. Lol now Im just trying to reason with myself to not spend that extra $1500+ for new gears...

[dieselfan1]

285-55-22 are 34" tall 

That's a good compromise

[Barman84]

On 1/5/2019 at 10:42 AM, hardcore-gm said:

I would definitely consider bigger than 33s but only reasons against would be power loss, mpg loss, expense.. Im not sold on 33s. But all those small reasons add up when pulling 7k trailer. Thanks for all the input guys I appreciate it! It doesnt seem worth it to me for that amount of cash to regear, even to 4.10s. Barman84 to answer your question I have a 6 speed. For the amount of money that it takes to regear, I might as well save up for a used supercharger. I only put on 5-10k miles a year and 95% of that is daily driving or non tow. For that reason I believe the 6.2 with 6 spd tranny and 3.42 will be sufficient with 6" lift and 22s with 35s.. Lol now Im just trying to reason with myself to not spend that extra $1500+ for new gears...

Supercharger or not your still going to toast your transmission from running a bigger tire set without regearing.  It’s what made me do it got a freebie under warranty ?.  You’ve got 3.42s so the cost is going to be way cheaper.  All you need is a gear set front and rear and bearings.  Maybe 500-700 in parts.  A good tech will charge 400-500 for labor front and rear.  And you’re truck will be so much more happy. 

 

Hell I had a turd pull up next to me last night in a stock 16-18 z71 and try to race I said screw it.   Next light he had to ask if I had performance mods done I was there first lifted truck that spanked his ass.

[hardcore-gm]

2 hours ago, Barman84 said:

Supercharger or not your still going to toast your transmission from running a bigger tire set without regearing.  It’s what made me do it got a freebie under warranty ?.  You’ve got 3.42s so the cost is going to be way cheaper.  All you need is a gear set front and rear and bearings.  Maybe 500-700 in parts.  A good tech will charge 400-500 for labor front and rear.  And you’re truck will be so much more happy. 

 

Hell I had a turd pull up next to me last night in a stock 16-18 z71 and try to race I said screw it.   Next light he had to ask if I had performance mods done I was there first lifted truck that spanked his ass.

Well played sir! What size did you go with for gears?

[Barman84]

12 minutes ago, hardcore-gm said:

Well played sir! What size did you go with for gears?

4.10s. Here’s a shot of my dash from today.

 

im going up a pretty good sized hill on I5 shut outside of LACEY in Washington yon state as well.  Holding 6th around 1700 at 70.  I have a 6” lift and 35s.  Don’t mind the abs light I have the fuse pulled out.  Dealer can’t figure out why my abs keeps kicking in when I go around turns so I just yanked it.  However, I am running a full 12” wheel.