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just some things to think about the next time you gripe:

 

#1: YOU drive that bill three states away for 37 cents. think of gas prices, A more realistic rate would be 75 cents.

 

#2: The goal is something like 99 or 95 percent of all deliverys items are correctly delivered. If this is achived(I believe 99%), then over 28,000 letters would still be misplaced every day.

 

#3: In ONE week, the US Post Office Delivers more items that UPS and FedEX combined delivers in ONE year:

 

#4: your business thinks UPS is more accurate? UPS recently signed a contract with USPS(United States Postal Service). What for? in some areas, UPS drivers were having a lot of problems finding out were the package was supposed to go. So now, they drop of the packages at a Post Office and the PO finishes the job.

 

I've heard stories of UPS drivers getting so frustrated(this happed at the last PO my dad ran) they stood in line at a Post Office and piad out of their own pocket to have the USPS do it b/c they couldn't.

Tucson_02Silverado Senior Enthusiast

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Here, Here!!

 

During the UPS strike, I had orders from business' that would normally not use USPS much less FedEx (which is great and cheaper too for larger packages), shipped my orders via USPS priority and I still got it within in 2 business days.

 

USPS is also great if you have a PO Box. Most of the post offices have fairly large lockers they put your packages in and leave the key in your box.

 

Why does UPS think it's alright to make residential deliveries before 5PM? Actually they make attempts before 3:30PM.

snoman Senior Enthusiast

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The problem is too much money waste and too high of wages to postal worker. Back in the late 70's they split of from regular fed civil service and though fed still pay part of their benifits (health and life insurance) they pay a much larger amount of it leaving postal workers a much smaller share to pay as well too than regular civil service. The best thing that could happen to the USPS would be to open it to competiton and remove the monopoly it was and force it to cut costs and wages and get more efficeint. No body needs to make 60 to 70 grand just for delivering the mail! This is not a high skill level job.

tmf6902 Senior Enthusiast

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I think the USPS is fine for most stuff, but when you gotta get something overseas, or it absolutly has to be there on time or in a very short period of time, FedEx is the only way togo.....I've had things shipped at 6pm one day and had them deliverd at 8:30 the next morning.....that's efficiency!

Mike C Enthusiast

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60-70 grand to deliver mail?, Hmm must be in pesos. The fact my friend is the average letter carrier makes 30-40 grand us dollars. They deliver to ALL adresses, in ALL types of weather. I am sorry you have to pay more for your health insurance than postal workers, maybe you all need to organize a union.

90 percent of postal workers are Veterans, and some of them are disabled, the postal service does not descriminate. All postal funding, including salaries are derived from Postage and services, they do not get ANY tax dollars, like some think. Let me ask you a simple question, if the first class monopoly was recended, do you think UPS, FED EX, etc are going to deliver a letter from New york to California for 37 cents?

 

Dont think so you will pay based on distance, and then will have to go to a central shipping area to retrieve the letter, because there will be no more door to door deliveries. No a problem for city folk, but a hell of a burden for people who live in rural areas and the elderly.

The postal service is mandated from congress to either break even or be in the red. Most profit is grabbed by the Govt to help with the national debt, etc. Anyhow enough of my ranting, it just erks me to have people, who dont have a clue, expound on a topic, and attempt to bad mouth something/somebody they no nothing about :jester: Check the facts. Later Mike.

snoman Senior Enthusiast

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60-70 grand to deliver mail?, Hmm must be in pesos. The fact my friend is the average letter carrier makes 30-40 grand us dollars. They deliver to ALL adresses, in ALL types of weather.  I am sorry you have to pay more for your health insurance than postal workers, maybe you all need to organize a union.

90 percent of postal workers are Veterans, and some of them are disabled, the postal service does not descriminate. All postal funding, including salaries are derived from Postage and services, they do not get ANY tax dollars, like some think. Let me ask you a simple question, if the first class monopoly was recended, do you think UPS, FED EX, etc are going to deliver a letter from New york to California for 37 cents?

 

Dont think so you will pay based on distance, and then will have to go to a central shipping area to retrieve the letter, because there will be no more door to door deliveries. No a problem for city folk, but a hell of a burden for people who live in rural areas and the elderly.

The postal service is mandated from congress to either break even or be in the red. Most profit is grabbed by the Govt to help with the national debt, etc. Anyhow enough of my ranting, it just erks me to have people, who dont have a clue, expound on a topic, and attempt to bad mouth something/somebody  they no nothing about :jester: Check the facts. Later  Mike.

Maybe we should not and maybe if they paid more insurance costs they would realize that they are getting a pay raise every year by getting insuranced paid. My wife has here masters and is a teacher and a professional and she pays for some of her insurance and I have my bach and I pay for a share of mine too. I do not know where you are gettingn your figures, I know what they make not the contractors who deliver rural routes. In my little one horse town with 250 PO boxes there is a Postmaster (that is rarely there and gets $70,000 plus and a contract helper that does 90% of the work for 7 bucks a hour while the "master" screws off. The Post Office is out of control and need either competition or a complete overhaul. Yar ago I used to hunt with a US mail carrier that walked a foot route. He would often finish his route by noon or so and was supposed to goof off the rest of the day and kill time and wait to turn his bag in a 4PM and then go home

Frank S Senior Enthusiast

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Sorry but the suggestion of $.75 to deliver mail is brought up,I have to bring up the fact that the object being mailed is rarely going someplace that several other things aren't.When this is the case,the Post Office generally informs you that delivery may take longer than usual.

 

Not that I'm really concerned with that because I've only bought stamps is when someone has bought something from me,even then i usually use UPS.

Greg Senior Enthusiast

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Then there's the Detroit post office where there was a check stealing ring. Postal workers would remove 1 book of checks from each of many boxes and sell them, sometimes right on Fort Street in front of the post office. Law enforcement's advice: don't ever use USPS to deliver your checks.

 

One of my clients accidently sent a data CD via the US Mail instead of UPS overnight. It's been 3 weeks and no sign of it - along with the sensitive data on it, that was thankfully encrypted.

SnakeEyeSS Senior Enthusiast

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The problem is too much money waste and too high of wages to postal worker. Back in the late 70's they split of from regular fed civil service and though fed still pay part of their benifits (health and life insurance) they pay a much larger amount of it leaving postal workers a much smaller share to pay as well too than regular civil service. The best thing that could happen to the USPS would be to open it to competiton and remove the monopoly it was and force it to cut costs and wages and get more efficeint.  No body needs to make 60 to 70 grand just for delivering the mail! This is not a high skill level job.

Going along with what Mike C has already said, and adding some:

 

The Federal Governement pay NOTHING to us. NOTHING. We may be a "government" agency, but ALL our revenues come off the postage.

 

Why does the Post Office have so much control? The constitution. It protects your freedom to keep your "stuff" to yourself.

 

Wasted money? pleeze, I bet whoever you work for is MUCH worse. did you know the Post Office is over $900 million UNDER projected costs this year alone? This info is relatively new, just recently released.

 

Oh and what is your job? do you think just because you don't like the pay rate that we don't deserve it? they get that 60-70 grand a yea, some in my office might pull down 80 this year. HOW? 10+ hours a day 6 days a week. In all weather, in all temperature, up and down hills that makes your truck sweat.

 

Oh he is dead on about how the pay will work if they opened up the letter system to multiple companies. You would pay based on distance, just as you do for packages.

 

SNOMAN:

If this guy who goofed off is a city carrier, and is truly your FRIEND, that shows what kind of person you must be hanging out with people like that. The name of the game is HONESTY. Every business has their share of lazy, dishonest, worthless people. Appearently you might be the one at your business.

 

IF he is a rual carrier, they are contracted out, who if they finish early, mor epower to them, they get paid on how long their route is "supposed" to take. say it is supposed to take 8 hours, if they take 6, they get paid for 8, if it takes them 14, they get paid for 8.

 

"postal workers get paid too much". That the biggest discriminatory, bunch-a-bull remark I've heard in long time on this site. Some businesses pay well, some don't. Some workers work hard for their money, some don't.

 

Don't get mad beacuse you paid so much money for a degree and am not getting as big as a return, That was your choice. It like your wife having a masters and teaching. A guy in my BMW club is a teacher, stating "it's backwards paying all the money for a degree that you may take forever to pay back by using it, in money terms, its not worth it".

Z71 Enthusiast

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The postal workers in my area suck!

 

The guy next door started working graveyard and during the day he would park his car on the street. It would over hang the property line of both houses and since the mailboxes are on the street, the postman could no longer drive his jeep right up to the mailbox and he stopped mail delivery to both our houses and left a note saying so.

 

We had to go to the post office to pick up our mail. In another month the incident happened again. When I went to the post office and commented how "Nor sleet, rain, snow etc will deter their rounds... why is it a parked car will?". I was then charged a $25 'processing fee' of some kind that I did not have to pay the first time.

 

Screw em, hope Email and electronic bill pay drives them to uselessness.

Mike C Enthusiast

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The postal workers in my area suck!

 

The guy next door started working graveyard and during the day he would park his car on the street. It would over hang the property line of both houses and since the mailboxes are on the street, the postman could no longer drive his jeep right up to the mailbox and he stopped mail delivery to both our houses and left a note saying so.

 

We had to go to the post office to pick up our mail. In another month the incident happened again. When I went to the post office and commented how "Nor sleet, rain, snow etc will deter their rounds... why is it a parked car will?". I was then charged a $25 'processing fee' of some kind that I did not have to pay the first time.

 

Screw em, hope Email and electronic bill pay drives them to uselessness.

Hey Z71, looks like you wont be blocking the mailbox anymore? Just think if everyone on the carriers route blocked there boxes? Think of all the overtime he would be getting having to dismount at every address? How can you be charged a 25.00 processing fee? That you didnt have to pay?

 

Look there are bad apples in every bunch, i agree. Police, teachers, doctors, hell even bad politicians :lol: But to say that all or most is just plain ignorrant. The USA has the most efficent and cheapest mail service in the world.

 

Postal employess do pay a fair share of there Health ins. They pay Federal and state taxes, and unemployment and social security taxes. They are a subject to random drug testing also. When all other federal employees got off for Reagans funeral, most Postal employees worked.

Just remember no other delivery service, be it UPS, FED EX, etc. Deliver, or in your case Z71, attempt to deliver to EVERY address, six days a week.

 

My aim here is not to offend anyone, we are all entitled to our opinions. just dont judge the whole USPS on the actions of the few. Because this can be applied to just about any other Profession/ business out there. Later and have a Happy 4th of July

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SnakeEyeSS Senior Enthusiast

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The postal workers in my area suck!

 

The guy next door started working graveyard and during the day he would park his car on the street. It would over hang the property line of both houses and since the mailboxes are on the street, the postman could no longer drive his jeep right up to the mailbox and he stopped mail delivery to both our houses and left a note saying so.

 

We had to go to the post office to pick up our mail. In another month the incident happened again. When I went to the post office and commented how "Nor sleet, rain, snow etc will deter their rounds... why is it a parked car will?". I was then charged a $25 'processing fee' of some kind that I did not have to pay the first time.

 

Screw em, hope Email and electronic bill pay drives them to uselessness.

thats your own fault. you have the right to call the police and have them put a warning about parking the car in the street for periods of time.

 

You also have the right to go to the carrier when he is at your house and explain the situation to them. I knew a guy and the same exact thing happened to him. He just politely explained what was happening to the carrier, telling him he didn't have much control over other people cars. The carrier isn't going to memorize or learn whose car is whose. From then on, that guy got his mail delivered.

 

You have options besides whining and griping about it.

 

Also, the advent of the Internet has actaully made the Post Office MORE money.

 

 

Oh, and on the continuing subjest of the Federal Gov and Postal money, The USPS actually PAYS the federal governement a "ton" of money every year. So if you wish, and its made private, your costs are not only going up, so are your taxes. Because it IS federal, The goverment can take it's money if it wants too. So think about it; the USPS gets basically no money at all from the government, yets pays millions upon millions to it. How would your business like to hand over ITS profits to the gov?

Elwood Senior Enthusiast

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While I have found this to be an enlightening thread, it is getting pretty close to a flame war. Everyone, please be sure to be civil and level headed wit all comments made. If I see this taking a more heated turn I'm going to delete the thread. Everyone has an opinion, but let's not make this personal.

 

Thanks guys.

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