!/4 Mile Times

Cranky1 · April 24, 2007

Hi,

I just wanted to share my experience at the track yesterday. My son and I went to Toronto Motorsports park (formally dragway park Cayuga) We only got 3 runs in total because one of the big boys popped something and got oil all over the track. I registered for time trials 11am to 2 pm and wished I had the time to do some bracket racing, but what a rush!

1st run, I went up against a ford Contour 24 valve that looked like a piece of crap, I was surprised, he ran 16.212 @ 90.38 MPH and he was 1 1/2 car lengths behind me. I thought for sure I ran 17 or 18 seconds. I ran a 15.313 @ 90.35 MPH, that brought a smile to my face.

2nd run. I was up against a Mustang, I would guess it to be a 1988 or newer 5.0 litre with a wild cam. The Mustang ran a 14.104 @ 100.13 MPH. That pass I ran a 15.352 @ 89.5 MPH and I was only a car length behind the Mustang. Not great, but I was still impressed.

The 3rd run, we sat around for a good hour waiting for the track to be cleaned and the 2 pm end for times trials was coming to a close. My 17 year old son and I sat on the tailgate, a young guy came over and said he wanted to run me, I said "no problem" This guy had a 2002 Chev step side 4X4. Once our staging lane started to move, the guy in the step side pushed his way up and got beside us, I told my son to get in and let her dangle, my son looked at me in a panic and he said what do I do? I told him to stage, (he had been going to the track spectating since he was 9 years old) I said as the tree lights go down, when you see the last yellow, think about launching, hold it to the floor and don't let off until you go past the time signs at the end of the track. The step side ran a 16.901 @ 71 MPH, my son ran a 15.501 @87 MPH. Not a bad run for his 1st time. It was worth the smile he had on his face

The guy in the step side turned out to be a nice guy, it turned out to be his dad's truck, we sat and chatted for a few minutes and I told him and his buddies about this web site and the few mods I have done to my truck.

I will be back there in a few weeks to do it again. I will leave the spare tire and the tail gate at home and I will be sure to not have a full tank of fuel this time.

Should I post the 60', 300', 1/8 mile times and speeds? Sorry for the long post.

Schmids5.3l · April 24, 2007

Sounds great!! Good times! I was supposed to go to the track this past Friday and get it on camra, I was hoping to run a 14.6 or 14.7, buuut my best friend whose also in the Army came into town out of no were Thursday night, so I had to party this whole weekend. Im going this Friday and the weather better be good, because the weather this weekend was perfect and I couldnt go

pwall · April 24, 2007

Thanks for sharing! I gotta get my truck to the track....not sure if there is one around Ottawa.

GRB60 · April 24, 2007

The Mustang ran 14.10 and you ran 15.35 and you were only a car length behind him? Not possible. At 90 MPH, you are going 132 feet per second. You were 165 feet behind him with those times.

Nice runs, though!

Cranky1 · April 24, 2007

The Mustang ran 14.10 and you ran 15.35 and you were only a car length behind him? Not possible. At 90 MPH, you are going 132 feet per second. You were 165 feet behind him with those times.

Nice runs, though!

GRB60, now you have me questioning my self.

If you look at it that way it would sound like I am stretching it a little, watching from the right lane that I was in, if I was to cut across into the left lane I would have been on his back door a car lenght from what I saw.

On my 1st run with the Contour, he actually went through the eye's at the end of the track .03 seconds faster then I did. I ran .889 seconds faster. I was in the right lane and I couldn't see him in my mirror and I had to look over my left shoulder to see him. At 165' the Mustang would be approximately 11 car lenghts ahead of me the way you put it.

100.13 MPH = 146.9 feet per second

89.5 MPH = 131.3 feet per second

As long as my wife thinks that this is 8" (-----------------------------------------------) Life is good!

Cranky1 · April 24, 2007

Thanks for sharing! I gotta get my truck to the track....not sure if there is one around Ottawa.

PWALL, There is a track near you called Luskville Dragway 23 miles from down town Ottawa. I have alway's wanted to go there myself. My parents live in Lancaster, I might make it there this summer.

Their corporate office is in Nepean. Here is the link http://www.luskvilledragway.com/

pwall · April 24, 2007

Excellent! Will have to try to get there this summer.

If you end up going down, let me know.

svensk · April 25, 2007

As long as my wife thinks that this is 8" (-----------------------------------------------) Life is good!

ROFL

Nytemare · April 27, 2007

if you average out the 1/4 against the ET, it it comes out that he was doing 87.3 ft/s in the truck and the Rustang was doing 95.04

thats a difference of 7.74 ft/s

a difference of 1.25 sec on ET so that means that he was 9.675 ft behind Thats doing it by averages though.

You have to remember that both cars are still moving. You have to use relative speed concepts not real speed. Even at the end of the race they are only moving at a 16ft/s difference, and thats using the trap speed. So if the speed at 149 feet in front of the trap is the same as the trap speed for arguments sake, than that would mean that the car was only 16 feet ahead of you when it crossed the line. Of course it was going slower at the 149ft mark. So I would say that your one car length estimate is pretty accurate.

Green_Monster · April 27, 2007

What were your R/T times?? If you got the hole shot on him, the actual difference when you cross the finish line would be different.

For example: I have run next to some Mustangs and lost every time, but sometimes not by much because I launch in 4wd and kick their ass off the line to about the 330 ft. mark (sometimes all the way to 1/8 mile, but not often) and then they pass me up.

Just for an example, not an actual run:

My R/T- .035

His R/T- 1.035

If I look at just the time slip numbers, then I lose by uwards of 2 seconds, but when we actually cross the line he only wins by 1 second. I don't know if these numbers would actually add up. Just an "off the top of my head" expample. This would explain the difference in time slip #'s and actual finish.

If this does not apply to your situation, then just call me retarded!

Cranky1 · April 30, 2007

if you average out the 1/4 against the ET, it it comes out that he was doing 87.3 ft/s in the truck and the Rustang was doing 95.04

that's a difference of 7.74 ft/s

a difference of 1.25 sec on ET so that means that he was 9.675 ft behind That's doing it by averages though.

You have to remember that both cars are still moving. You have to use relative speed concepts not real speed. Even at the end of the race they are only moving at a 16ft/s difference, and that's using the trap speed. So if the speed at 149 feet in front of the trap is the same as the trap speed for arguments sake, than that would mean that the car was only 16 feet ahead of you when it crossed the line. Of course it was going slower at the 149ft mark. So I would say that your one car length estimate is pretty accurate.

That's the theory that I had come up with as well Nytemare. GRB60 seems to have his theory and after I first read it, it seemed to have some logic. I know that the Rustang was not more then 2 or 3 car lengths a head of me in the left lane. It sure is interesting how speed and time all factor in drag racing and final results.

I have the time slips in my desk at work, I will post the times tomorrow. Come to think about it, I had a R/T .400 something and the Rustang had close to a .800. The race with the Contour, I feel a sleep at the tree with a R/T .900 something and the Contour had .400 or .500 R/T but he went through the eye's at .3 MPH faster.

The things that make you go "hum"

Schmids5.3l · May 2, 2007

When I ran a 14.9, I was next to an older Jimmy, that packed some serious motor. He ran a 13.5, and he was maybe 3 lengths on me, maybe 4. I just know after the 1/8 mile he took the hell off. Maybe a 2 stage nitrous system.

Cranky1 · May 2, 2007

When I ran a 14.9, I was next to an older Jimmy, that packed some serious motor. He ran a 13.5, and he was maybe 3 lengths on me, maybe 4. I just know after the 1/8 mile he took the hell off. Maybe a 2 stage nitrous system.

That sounds like fun Schmids5.3l. I think I have the same bug as you "faster" Once I break into the high 14's I will need to go to the low 14's. Who knows after that, maybe build an S-10 with a small block V8. I wounder what a gutted S-10 would do with a chev 5.3 and tranny with a ford 9" with a tall gear?

I remember you saying that you had planned to go to a local track today, if so, how did you do?

We are going back to the same track as last time Saturday. They will have test & tune from 11am to 5 pm with no bracket racing so we should get a few runs in. If my friend goes with his pro street I will take my tailgate off and drop the spare tire and experiment to see if it makes a difference, if he is not there I will just run the same as I did the last time without a full tank of fuel.

Schmids5.3l · May 2, 2007

Yes its a very addictive bug The sky looks like it could rain at any minute, plus my intake is coming in tommorrow or Friday, so if I did go tonight I'd just go right back after getting the intake I also just read the tracks website and test and tunes aren't until Thursdays, I could have swore they were Wednesdays. Im hoping Im running slower because when I got retuned, I told the tuner I had an air intake, which I was anticipating to have shortly after the tune. Maybe he programmed it to be digesting more air that it doesnt quite have yet. Im really hoping thats the problem, because I cant find any other reason Im running slower!

Give me a minute and I will upload a video of a mean S10 that was at the track when I was there.

trever1t · May 2, 2007

Low 15's are very good for the mods you have congrads! I used to run 15 flat with stock 32.7" tires,cam and bolt ons for comparison. Yes, you could easily have been only a length behind if your r/t was better.