Difference In Revo Tires

Madcap · October 22, 2007

I'm looking at the Revo's, and one has a 'serv desc' of 1135 for about $150, and the other one has a 'serv desc' of 121/118R for $180. What does this mean?

Aslo, I know I sound like a noob but with all this talking about leveling kits and lift kits, am I to believe that my 2WD truck is not level? What would I need to do to level this thing and get another 2" clearance?

jnpaddison · October 22, 2007

Level / Lift - as your truck sits in the parking lot - the front is lower than the front by approx 2" . a level kit with lift the front end geometry by either a re-oreintation of the T-bars- GMT 400 / 800 , or if you have an Independant front suspension - GMT900 - a spacer somewhere between the strut and upper frame pocket or a spacer between the lower attachment an the A-arm..

a lift with raise / alter the suspension by dropping the transverse case with new steering knuckles and rear lift blocks

there is also a body lift which simply increases the spacers between the chassis and frame - does not alter the suspension

Zembonez · October 22, 2007

I'm looking at the Revo's, and one has a 'serv desc' of 1135 for about $150, and the other one has a 'serv desc' of 121/118R for $180. What does this mean?

113S is a standard LT Tire and the 121/118R is an E rated tire (much heavier duty and harsher ride) Designed for 3/4 and 1 ton applications primarily.

In a 265/70/17 size:

The LT has a 2535 lb rating @44psi and comes with 13/32 tread.

The E rated has a 3195 lb rating @80psi and 16/32 tred depth.

There is your difference in both performance and price.

rayy79 · October 22, 2007

the dueler revo is available in a number of service strengths; a "P" 265 would be a 4 ply passenger rating which is ok for most half tons today load wise. the "LTs" light truck start with a "C" rating--265 75 16 C is a 6 ply . followed by "D" which is an 8 ply and E for a 10 ply. most 2500 hd s should have a minium of an "D"--8ply; 3500 should have a "e" because of extra payload capability. my 2500 came with a 245 "E" 10 ply; looked terrible on a big truck and rode as bad. i changed to 285 75 16 D; which was plenty of plies for my use payload wise. the Revo is a good tire; not much noise pretty good traction

99silveradoz71 · October 23, 2007

I put C's on my 99 Z71 Ext cab and loved them...twice

Raymond Lowe · October 23, 2007

I've had Revo's on for just under two years. At that time, they were the #1 rated tire at Tirerack.com. They were hyped up by almost everybody who bought them. The odd voice of reason was quickly drowned out by all the cheerleaders and I was one who bought into the hype.

Here's why I discovered. First off, this is an "all-terrain" tire, not all-season. That means it's a tougher tire designed to handle a little off-roading and rougher terrain. With that, there are a few trade-off's. If this is a city truck, this isn't your tire. It's more suited to the country or constructions sites.

The upside. Traction in snow is good but it's no winter tire. Traction and braking on wet roads is excellent, probably their best attribute. You can take them off-road without much concern of a flat.

The downside. They're not a long-lived tire, maybe 50-60% of what an LTX will go. They have moderate noise that will get louder as they wear. Rolling resistance is kind of high and the rumours of 1-2mpg loss are true. They're not a smooth riding tire and you can feel a little roughness at 30-40 mph. They don't absorb much of the imperfections in the road even at lower pressures.

So depending on your needs, there could be better choices.

Madcap · October 23, 2007

Thanks for the responses guys. It's really helping me take a step in the right direction. I've never bought tires before (always leased) and i've never done a lift so this is all a learnng experience for me. I must say it is a bit overwelming because everyone has their own opinion on tires and I have no clue which tire I should go with, much less witch rating. I drive mostly city and highway, while during hunting season I need to drive through a plowed corn field. I have a 2WD crew cab w/ a P rated tire now. Should I just stay with that since I don't ever tow anything?

Where do I go to find out if I have a GMT900 or a GMT 400/800? Will this be inside my door, or in the owners manual? From what I understand, I need to figure this out before I decide how to level my front. One has springs and the other will have torsion bars right?

Zembonez · October 23, 2007

Thanks for the responses guys. It's really helping me take a step in the right direction. I've never bought tires before (always leased) and i've never done a lift so this is all a learnng experience for me. I must say it is a bit overwelming because everyone has their own opinion on tires and I have no clue which tire I should go with, much less witch rating. I drive mostly city and highway, while during hunting season I need to drive through a plowed corn field. I have a 2WD crew cab w/ a P rated tire now. Should I just stay with that since I don't ever tow anything?

Where do I go to find out if I have a GMT900 or a GMT 400/800? Will this be inside my door, or in the owners manual? From what I understand, I need to figure this out before I decide how to level my front. One has springs and the other will have torsion bars right?

06 CrewCab should be a GMT800... correct me if I'm wrong boys.

If you want a good smooth riding AT tire suggestion:

I just put a set of Firestone Destination ATs on my dads Suburban and another Set on my Jeep Cherokee. They are superb. Very quiet and smooth and quite highly rated on Tirerack.com as well. I know... Firestone isn't a tire I thought I would be praising but they really perform well. We don't have to contend with icy/snow conditions here (at all!) but they rated high there too.

rayy79 · October 23, 2007

Thanks for the responses guys. It's really helping me take a step in the right direction. I've never bought tires before (always leased) and i've never done a lift so this is all a learnng experience for me. I must say it is a bit overwelming because everyone has their own opinion on tires and I have no clue which tire I should go with, much less witch rating. I drive mostly city and highway, while during hunting season I need to drive through a plowed corn field. I have a 2WD crew cab w/ a P rated tire now. Should I just stay with that since I don't ever tow anything?

Where do I go to find out if I have a GMT900 or a GMT 400/800? Will this be inside my door, or in the owners manual? From what I understand, I need to figure this out before I decide how to level my front. One has springs and the other will have torsion bars right?

i would go with a michelin ltx ms and be through with it; depending on which wheel size your truck came with; i'm not sure if they made an 18" in that tire; im pretty sure they did in 16, 17 and 20. that should serve your needs with a little off roading. not much mud traction. my bridgestones wore out at 35k; but i did not rotate properly. what size rim does your truck have?

Madcap · October 23, 2007

Thanks for the responses guys. It's really helping me take a step in the right direction. I've never bought tires before (always leased) and i've never done a lift so this is all a learnng experience for me. I must say it is a bit overwelming because everyone has their own opinion on tires and I have no clue which tire I should go with, much less witch rating. I drive mostly city and highway, while during hunting season I need to drive through a plowed corn field. I have a 2WD crew cab w/ a P rated tire now. Should I just stay with that since I don't ever tow anything?

Where do I go to find out if I have a GMT900 or a GMT 400/800? Will this be inside my door, or in the owners manual? From what I understand, I need to figure this out before I decide how to level my front. One has springs and the other will have torsion bars right?

i would go with a michelin ltx ms and be through with it; depending on which wheel size your truck came with; i'm not sure if they made an 18" in that tire; im pretty sure they did in 16, 17 and 20. that should serve your needs with a little off roading. not much mud traction. my bridgestones wore out at 35k; but i did not rotate properly. what size rim does your truck have?

I have a 17" wheel with a 245/70/R17 tire.. I would like to go to a 265/70/17 or something around there if Michelin doesn't make that size. I'll check out that tire right now.

Paul58 · October 23, 2007

I like Bridgestones and have had several different types on different vehicles. I too bought into the hype of the Revos. I put a set on my 2WD F-150 when I moved to IN because they were rated very high for snow and ice traction. I found out rather quickly that they were'nt all that great. Many a morning I sat in my drive way listening to them spin as I tried to ease out of my snow covered driveway! The stock Goodyear Eagle GT's actually did better! I also found them to be noisy on the highway and my gas mileage dropped 2 mpg after having them installed. If you have a 2WD truck and want any kind of traction in the snow, get a true winter tire and load the bed with some sand bags and kitty litter!

Air Biscuit · October 24, 2007

I've had Revo's on for just under two years. At that time, they were the #1 rated tire at Tirerack.com. They were hyped up by almost everybody who bought them. The odd voice of reason was quickly drowned out by all the cheerleaders and I was one who bought into the hype.

Here's why I discovered. First off, this is an "all-terrain" tire, not all-season. That means it's a tougher tire designed to handle a little off-roading and rougher terrain. With that, there are a few trade-off's. If this is a city truck, this isn't your tire. It's more suited to the country or constructions sites.

The upside. Traction in snow is good but it's no winter tire. Traction and braking on wet roads is excellent, probably their best attribute. You can take them off-road without much concern of a flat.

The downside. They're not a long-lived tire, maybe 50-60% of what an LTX will go. They have moderate noise that will get louder as they wear. Rolling resistance is kind of high and the rumours of 1-2mpg loss are true. They're not a smooth riding tire and you can feel a little roughness at 30-40 mph. They don't absorb much of the imperfections in the road even at lower pressures.

So depending on your needs, there could be better choices.

Like he said. I'm at 50K km (not miles) and will likely need new tires in another 10K. Not that happy with the wear but wet grip 'was' good and snow and dry not too bad either. For the price, I would go with something else...

Taaaaaaahoe? · October 24, 2007

I've had Revo's on for just under two years. At that time, they were the #1 rated tire at Tirerack.com. They were hyped up by almost everybody who bought them. The odd voice of reason was quickly drowned out by all the cheerleaders and I was one who bought into the hype.

Here's why I discovered. First off, this is an "all-terrain" tire, not all-season. That means it's a tougher tire designed to handle a little off-roading and rougher terrain. With that, there are a few trade-off's. If this is a city truck, this isn't your tire. It's more suited to the country or constructions sites.

The upside. Traction in snow is good but it's no winter tire. Traction and braking on wet roads is excellent, probably their best attribute. You can take them off-road without much concern of a flat.

The downside. They're not a long-lived tire, maybe 50-60% of what an LTX will go. They have moderate noise that will get louder as they wear. Rolling resistance is kind of high and the rumours of 1-2mpg loss are true. They're not a smooth riding tire and you can feel a little roughness at 30-40 mph. They don't absorb much of the imperfections in the road even at lower pressures.

So depending on your needs, there could be better choices.

Well put!!! I agree!

the blur · October 24, 2007

113s is a P rated tire, not LT. My factory goodyears say P265, and then 113S, not LT265.

113S is a standard LT Tire and the 121/118R is an E rated tire (much heavier duty and harsher ride) Designed for 3/4 and 1 ton applications primarily.

In a 265/70/17 size:

The LT has a 2535 lb rating @44psi and comes with 13/32 tread.

The E rated has a 3195 lb rating @80psi and 16/32 tred depth.

There is your difference in both performance and price.