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rcbgn00 Enthusiast

rcbgn00

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Well as my luck has it no dealer wants to order a truck and also deal on the price. So I have been trying to find trucks close to what I want. Could someone run this vin and tell me what the invoice price really is and what the target price I should offer is?

2GCEK19J181109536

There has been a few threads about this so I figured you guys could help me out.

Thanks

ktg Enthusiast

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Guess they're all different. My local dealer said he'd give me a better deal if he had to order it because he didn't have to let it sit on the lot.

slomo007 Enthusiast

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The MSRP will tell me more than the VIN will. I can't tell you exactly but I can estimate it.

 

Also include your state sales tax rate for me if you would.

sonjaab Senior Enthusiast

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There is a strike on a AAM so if you order a GM truck its gonna be a

LONG wait !!!!!!!!!!

 

The dealer wants to move a unit on the lot and if they think your a

serious buyer they would whip out the invoice anyhoo (unless its usually

a diesel or your in a certain area).

 

Use GM Buypower to find the truck you want. Then go from there!

Vmax08 Enthusiast

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When I ordered my Sierra back in January, no one had what I wanted, I went to three dealers. One pushed to take something off the lot but had nothing I wanted and was not very helpful to order one. Second dealer wanted a 500.00 deposit to get the truck I wanted and wouldn't talk any numbers until the truck came in. If the deal wasn't wanted buy buy 500.00. Finally went to a dealer who was willing to sit down price out exactly what I wanted and gave me a price for the truck and my trade before the truck came in. Just had to put down 200.00. They gave me the truck for the same "invoice" price that is listed on Edmunds.com when I priced the truck out their site. Picked it up on Presidents Day!! :cool:

rcbgn00 Enthusiast

rcbgn00

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The MSRP on the truck I listed the vin for was $36,200. It has a couple options I dont really want but if I were to order a truck it would sticker around $35k. Sales tax rate is 6.5% in the area I will buy the truck. I have been into a few dealers in the last month and none will show/tell me invoice price anymore. When I was "just looking" they had no problem but now that I want to talk numbers its a big secret. I tried using edmunds but their invoice price is different than what the dealers were showing me. I had a dealer offer to order one with a 1k deposit as long as I bought the truck for sticker price. Next dealer said $500 before they would order but wouldn't talk numbers but didn't have a problem offering me $500 less than wholesale for my trade. The local dealers know about the strike but none have said yes or no on if a truck could still be ordered and delivered in a timely manner.

 

I really want a GMC but they dont want to work as much as the local Chevy dealers do.

Griffin86 Enthusiast

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The MSRP on the truck I listed the vin for was $36,200. It has a couple options I dont really want but if I were to order a truck it would sticker around $35k. Sales tax rate is 6.5% in the area I will buy the truck. I have been into a few dealers in the last month and none will show/tell me invoice price anymore. When I was "just looking" they had no problem but now that I want to talk numbers its a big secret. I tried using edmunds but their invoice price is different than what the dealers were showing me. I had a dealer offer to order one with a 1k deposit as long as I bought the truck for sticker price. Next dealer said $500 before they would order but wouldn't talk numbers but didn't have a problem offering me $500 less than wholesale for my trade. The local dealers know about the strike but none have said yes or no on if a truck could still be ordered and delivered in a timely manner.

 

I really want a GMC but they dont want to work as much as the local Chevy dealers do.

 

Sounds like you are having one heck of a time. Hope you get your truck! My sticker was 53k and i got them done to 47k.

rcbgn00 Enthusiast

rcbgn00

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Yeah this vehicle purchase has been basically the biggest run around yet. I know I am a young guy but this isn't the first nor second new vehicle I have bought. Guess the dealers don't think I am serious or something. I just know what I want and I am trying to be somewhat fair about it. I am willing to work but there is no way I am paying sticker and taking wholesale for my trade.

 

I think once I find out some true numbers I will just go into the dealer and hash out numbers on the truck first then talk about trade. I have tried that from the start but once they hear trade-in I know their thoughts change and that damn 4-square game comes out. Once I see that I basically leave since I know how they work it and I know I wont be getting a deal then.

dogzapper Enthusiast

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I was with my brother-in-law today, shopping for a new 2008 Silverado 3500 DRW Duramax. The Chevy dealership had tow, obviously both crew cab long bed. One was a pretty well dressed up LT in Graystone Metallic and the MSRP was $52,000+ and the out-the-door price was $40,200.

 

The second was was full-dress with every possible option (DVD and such); MSRP was $57,000+ and the out-the-door price (title and 3 years license) was $44,000+.

 

I simply cannot believe the excellent prices; a full 12K off of one and 13K++ off of the other. And I thought I got a good buy on my 2006 Silverado 2500HD Duramax LBZ.

 

I wish I need a new truck!!!!!

 

Steve

rcbgn00 Enthusiast

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I have been into both types of dealers, small town and big city. The small town dealer is the one trying to get me to put 1k down on an ordered truck and wholesale for my trade. The big city just wants me to buy something from the lot and wont work on the price of an ordered truck.

 

I am looking at an SLT or LTZ in brown or red with tan interior and they cant seem to locate any and try to stick me with black. Then I want 2wd but they try to stick me with 4wd.

slomo007 Enthusiast

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The MSRP on the truck I listed the vin for was $36,200. It has a couple options I dont really want but if I were to order a truck it would sticker around $35k. Sales tax rate is 6.5% in the area I will buy the truck. I have been into a few dealers in the last month and none will show/tell me invoice price anymore. When I was "just looking" they had no problem but now that I want to talk numbers its a big secret. I tried using edmunds but their invoice price is different than what the dealers were showing me. I had a dealer offer to order one with a 1k deposit as long as I bought the truck for sticker price. Next dealer said $500 before they would order but wouldn't talk numbers but didn't have a problem offering me $500 less than wholesale for my trade. The local dealers know about the strike but none have said yes or no on if a truck could still be ordered and delivered in a timely manner.

 

I really want a GMC but they dont want to work as much as the local Chevy dealers do.

 

Here's how I would handle it:

 

MSRP 36,200

Invoice 33,000

Rebate 2,000

Holdback 1,086

True Invoice 29,914

Tax 1,944

Tags 200

Low Ball (with T/T) 30,058

Target Price (with T/T) 32,129

dannynoonan Enthusiast

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My sticker was 35,755. Out the door price 28,500 + TTL. No doc fee or any other for that matter. It is a lot easier to do it over the phone or by email. Use the edmunds site and email ten dealers from there. Tell them you are ready to buy before the end of the month. Out of those ten a couple will aggressively pursue you. Deal with their internet sales person. Out of the three that contacted me one offered 300 over invoice to start. I dealt from there. Just kept going back and forth between the three until I got down to where I needed to be. The economy sucks, gas is high, lots of trucks on the lots. You should shoot for 7-8000 of sticker for a truck in that price range. I wanted a gmc too. They were stuck on their price. I went back and forth with the chevy dealers and at the very end called the gmc dealer and asked if he wanted to beat it. He did. Make them send you the price in an email and the stock # or vin # of the truck you are talking about. GOOD LUCK!

 

slomo007's numbers are right on. You can get there.

ak63 Enthusiast

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Get the Consumer Reports price report for the truck you want. It will let you calculate the base invoice price plus destination charge plus invoice price of all installed packages/options less any dealer incentives and holdbacks, and give you a starting point for negotiation. You should exclude regional marketing cost from this number. Depending on the dealers, availability, and competition you should then be able to negotiate something reasonable from there, especially if they are hungry!

slomo007 Enthusiast

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My sticker was 35,755. Out the door price 28,500 + TTL. No doc fee or any other for that matter. It is a lot easier to do it over the phone or by email. Use the edmunds site and email ten dealers from there. Tell them you are ready to buy before the end of the month. Out of those ten a couple will aggressively pursue you. Deal with their internet sales person. Out of the three that contacted me one offered 300 over invoice to start. I dealt from there. Just kept going back and forth between the three until I got down to where I needed to be. The economy sucks, gas is high, lots of trucks on the lots. You should shoot for 7-8000 of sticker for a truck in that price range. I wanted a gmc too. They were stuck on their price. I went back and forth with the chevy dealers and at the very end called the gmc dealer and asked if he wanted to beat it. He did. Make them send you the price in an email and the stock # or vin # of the truck you are talking about. GOOD LUCK!

 

slomo007's numbers are right on. You can get there.

 

You did the same as me basically....emailed the internet sales departments of around 10 local dealers.

 

You got a little better deal than me though, my MSRP was around $33k and my OTD price was $27k. So you paid an extra $1k for $2k more in truck. If I could have made the upgrade to a 4x4 for the $2k sticker difference while only paying $1k more I would have done it. Maybe I should have pushed a little harder, though I did try to drop my price a bit more on the same truck and they refused.

 

But, at least for me GM was offering $3500 in rebates at the time on '07 silvys, and now they are only offering $2k, so you can add $1500 to our price and that's what he should expect to pay. I would recommend not buying now and waiting for that rebate amount to come up, but I realize that's not always an option.

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