c4cruiser Posted October 8, 2003 Posted October 8, 2003 I want to find the kit that defeats the auto-on headlamps on my '99 Silverado. I did a search and found that R & D has a kit, but the link to the website only displays a "Forbidden to Access" message. Are they still in business?? Or did they simply change their website URL??
asepgrad98 Posted October 8, 2003 Posted October 8, 2003 you could just unplug the bulbs and save some $$$
LARSONEM Posted October 8, 2003 Posted October 8, 2003 R & D had some great products. I had them on my 2001 Tahoe and on my 2001 Silverado. When I got rid of the 2001 Silverado for a 2003 model, I wanted the same headlight and foglight controllers, but discovered through this site that there were wiring differences between the model years and they wouldn't work. I have tried countless emails and online inquiries for additional information, like many others I have seen posting on this site, to no avail. Maybe it's just as well they aren't in business if they can't reply to anyone. Eric
ridnlow Posted October 8, 2003 Posted October 8, 2003 you could just unplug the bulbs and save some $$$ Then you would have no headlights at night.. I think he would kind of need those... I am in the same boat looking for something to disable the auto head light BS. I cant believe GM did something like that.. but oh well i love my truck anyway
MountaineerTom Posted October 8, 2003 Posted October 8, 2003 For those with '99 and early model '00's, you can replace the Body Control Module (BCM) with one from a newer model (2001 and up, to be safe) truck or new body style SUV, and then you will have the ability to press the dome override button a series of times to disable the auto headlights. It's not permanent, you'll have to do it everytime you re-start you truck. I've seen them go on e-bay for around $20. Plus, you'll gain the ability to program your door locks to operate in a few different ways. I have several of the R&D items, and have not had any problems with them. Too bad they don't seem to respond to people any more. Good luck.
asepgrad98 Posted October 8, 2003 Posted October 8, 2003 Then you would have no headlights at night. I thought he was talkin about the DRLs. He could just use the parkin brake trick on the rare occasion he wanted the lights off when it was dark.
1999GMCZ-71 Posted October 8, 2003 Posted October 8, 2003 i got my R&D headlight controller a few weeks ago. I love it. I did notice there site is down. Hope they are still in business.
EMPIRE231 Posted October 8, 2003 Posted October 8, 2003 cant you just press the dome light override button 4 times??
silverado man Posted October 8, 2003 Posted October 8, 2003 cant you just press the dome light override button 4 times?? Not on 99 and early 00 models you can't.
sonjaab Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 GUYS.........Check out http://www.lightsout.org Free info. to shut off DRLs and auto ons....... BTW: Somebody else had a easy fix to shut off DRLs and auto ons Posted here recently ! D**N ! I have the print out here but the email addy is cut off!............ Try this.. http://home.mensicom/~d.lang/Auto_Headligh...hts_Disable.htm .... hope it works!.....geo EDIT: BUMMER..NO good,,,,.....Anybody got it?
silverado man Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 GUYS.........Check out http://www.lightsout.orgFree info. to shut off DRLs and auto ons....... BTW: Somebody else had a easy fix to shut off DRLs and auto ons Posted here recently ! D**N ! I have the print out here but the email addy is cut off!............ Try this.. http://home.mensicom/~d.lang/Auto_Headligh...hts_Disable.htm .... hope it works!.....geo EDIT: BUMMER..NO good,,,,.....Anybody got it? Hey sonjab is this what you are talking about. I have not done this but got this from anther site. "I just found this forum today and saw some old questions that have not been answered, so I thought I would help some of you out. Listed below are the instructions that I came up with about a year ago to disable the auto headlights on the 1999 Silverado/Sierra new body style trucks. I have had mine like this for nearly a year and it works great. There is a little work involved, but it sure beats paying $90 for the little pushbutton gadget from R&D Truck Acc., (no offense Darrell). Keep in mind that I am talking about the automatic headlights (twilight sentinel) and NOT the d**n DRL's!!! Yes, I already know there is a fuse for the DRL's under the hood or you can just pull the bulbs out. Good luck and let me know if you need any help. Later, For those that don't know, the twilight sentinel is the feature that automatically turns on the headlights and taillights when it starts to get dark outside. I like this feature alot, but I wanted to find a way to disable it when hunting season comes around. I also like to use just the amber colored running lights in certain situations. These instructions are for my new body style '99 Silverado regular-cab, with LS option package. There are two ways that you can do this procedure. The first one I have listed is how I did it the first time not long after I bought my truck. The second way I have listed is how I did it a few weeks ago just to see which way would be easier. I personally like the second way better, but read both ways that way you will know everything that needs to be done. Things needed are: One 1.5K ohm 1/2 watt resistor (Radio Shack, $0.49 for a package of 5), electrical tape, pliers, and having small hands is a plus. A small socket set with ratchets & screwdrivers will come in handy too. Another nice tool to have is a dental pick. It makes unplugging the connectors a lot easier. Here is the first way: #1. First thing to do is to pull off the face of the dash and get it out of the way. It just pulls right off and snaps back on, no screws, bolts, or anything like that. It helps to lower the steering wheel all the way down and if you have an automatic, put the shifter all the way down into 1st. Be sure to set the parking brake, just in case! Next, pull out the radio, (push down on the two black tabs that are kind of sticking out on each side & pull the radio towards you at the same time), and unplug the connector and antennae and set it out of the way. You should be able to see the bottom of the ambient light sensor that is near the front of the dash,(it has one gray wire and one white wire running to it). Try to twist the sensor to unscrew it from the dash, (I had to use pliers from the top side on mine). Once loose, pull the sensor down from the hole in the dash,(it can not be pulled through the top), unplug it from the the connector, (not easy), and remove. Don't drop it or it might be lost forever down in the dash somewhere. Now take the connector plug-in (the one with the gray & white wire) and route it up through the hole in the middle of the dash for easier access to it. Now you can plug in the resistor into the connector, (I found that it works best to fold the wires of the resistor over itself once to be sure that the wires are making contact to the connector), and tape it up with electrical tape. Be sure to test it out to make d**n sure that it works, (hint: Release the parking brake or else you won’t know if it is working correctly.). If it is not installed correctly, the headlights & taillights will come on whenever the truck is turned on, day or night. What you do next is up to you. You can either re-install the unplugged light sensor to fill in the hole in the dash or leave it out and have a hole in the dash. Put the radio and dash back in and your done! I've had mine wired this way for months and have had no problems at all, it doesn't get hot or anything and I have total control of the headlights. The second way to do this is……. #2. Another way to do this is to remove the whole upper dash unit. It really wasn't that hard to do and it makes it ALOT easier to get to the ambient light sensor. You do not have to remove the radio if you do it this way. First thing I did was remove the face plate cover that covers the radio, gauges, etc. Then removed the 5 nut screws that hold the dash cover to the instrument panel. Took out the screws that are on each side of dash, (in the door jam areas, covered by the fuse panels). Removed the plastic A-pillar covers, (they just pop out from the top, be sure to put the metal clips back on the cover before re-installation). Got a butter knife and popped out the 2 A/C vents on the passenger side and removed the 2 screws that are in the holes there. Pulled out the "handle" that is directly above the passenger side airbag, (if you look inside the A/C vent holes you will see a white plastic "clip" on each side that is holding the steel rods of the handle, push these in slightly and pull the whole handle out). Double-check for any screws or clips, just in case I forgot to mention some. Now the hard part. You have to pull hard, straight back on the dash cover to get it out. I started on the driver side and worked my way to the passenger side. I put one hand between the bottom of the windshield and the front part of the dash in the driver side corner between the windshield & bottom of the A-pillar and pulled it straight back to "unclip" it from the metal that is holding it there. You have to use a little force to get it out, but you will hear and feel it pop when it gets out of the first clip. There are 5 or 6 of the clips that the front part of the dash needs to be “unclipped” from. There are also 3 small clips that hold the dash to the top part of the passenger side airbag cover, they don't take much force to be popped out. The airbag stays in place. Don't pull too hard or something might break that you don't want to break. After you unclipped all of them, you can pull the dash back a few inches and flip it up a little bit to get to the light sensor and unscrew it from the hole, (twist it a 1/4 turn). Then you can take the whole dash completely out of the truck. Unplug the light sensor from the connector with the white & gray wires. Put in the resistor, tape it up, test it out and put everything back in the way it came out. Putting the dash back in can be a little tricky. Make sure everything is lined up right and pop it back into place. Put all the screws back in and snap everything else back on and your done! I wish I would have done it this way the first time, it is alot easier than fighting under the dash trying to unplug that d**n sensor. You don't even have to take the radio out! I didn't break anything while doing this and I was kind of rough with it at first because I wasn't sure how to pull the dash out. It took me a little over an hour to do this, but I could probably do it in 15 minutes now that I know what to do. Some truck owners have had to use different kinds of resistors, (different amperages, wattages, Ohms, etc.), to be able to disable the auto headlights. Most owners, including myself, have had the best luck with the resistor mentioned previously. Some folks have added a toggle switch, or something similar, to the wires of the light sensor. This way they can choose between having the auto headlights operational or have manual control over them. I have not done this yet, but I will include some instructions of how I was told to do this. These instruction were given to me by Chris Leigh, (Thanks Chris!). Here they are: “Neil, Just get whatever type of two wire switch pleases you. Anything from the auto parts store will do, if they don't have anything you like try a Radio Shack. Hook the resistor to the one of the contacts on the switch, hook the other side of the switch to either of the sensor wires (white or grey). [important note: If you solder rather than crimp connect be sure to use some type of heat sink so that all the heat from soldering doesn't go into the resistor.] When the switch is closed it'll work as it does now (manual mode). Open the switch and it should go into auto mode. Mine was a little different (I have a 99 Silverado 2500) in that mine required two resistors to allow for manul light operation and therefore the switch setup was a tiny bit different. What I laid out for you is the setup for a 'one resistor bypass'. Mine has a bit of a delay from the time you change the switch position to when the lights actually change mode. I think this is something they build into the light relay to avoid inappropriate on-off action by the lights……Chris” Good luck & feel free to ask questions. Print this out so it is handy. My Email address is: [email protected] Later, Neil p.s. I might as well tell yall how to disable the DRL’s (Daytime Running Lights) too, because I just know someone is going to ask. There is a fuse for them in the “Electrical Center” that is under the hood on the drivers side. It is a small, blue 10 amp fuse. Look under the lid to the electrical center and it will show which fuse is the DRL fuse. Pulling this fuse does not affect any other accessories."
1999GMCZ-71 Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 My boss has a very early 2000 tahoe, one of the first ones the dealership got, and the DRL overide works by pushing the dome overide button 3 times fast.
MountaineerTom Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 The BCM's in '99 and some '00's are not programmed to do that. It also doesn't give you an option to program the door locks yourself, you have to take it to the dealer, and then I don't believe you get as many ways to program them as teh newer trucks.
sonjaab Posted October 10, 2003 Posted October 10, 2003 TOM.....Have forgotton where that disable link came from. But NO pulling apart the dash on this fix ! So here is the instructions for 99-02 GM fullsizers! Wish I had my scanner ! Basically you will need a pair of wire cutters and a 1.5k ohm 1/2 watt resistor that you can get at radio shack. Elect. tape and poss. wire nuts will work to wire in the resistor. You can solder the wires if you wish. You will want to disconnect the neg. batt. cable. First locate the Body Control Module (BCM) which is under the dash, below the steering column. Laying on the floor, this should be visible without removing the dash panels. You should find a purple connector (C3). Unplug it. Locate the white and gray wires (A4 and A6). I don't remember if the white is A4 and gray is A6 or vise versa. It doesn't matter anyway. Clip these 2 wires that are coming off this plug (C3). Leave a few inches to work with. Tape up or place wire nuts over the other end of these wires that go up and under the dash (they go to the light sensor). You now have removed the light sensor from the electrical system and it is now a dash ornament. Connect the gray wire from the plug (C3) to one end of the resistor and the white wire to the other end. Make sure you tape upall the wires to prevent a short. You should now have a gray wire coming from (C3), going to one lead of the resistor and the white wire from (C3) to the other resistor lead. Plug in the C-3 to the BCM and replace the neg. battery cable. Start the truck and make sure the lights are off. Throw a dark towel over the light sensor on the dash to verify the lights stay off. Try your light switch and if they work you have done it correctly and that it ! Shouldn't take very long after you find the wires which are right in front of you. Much easier than taking apart the entire dash !!!!!!!!.................geo
sonjaab Posted October 10, 2003 Posted October 10, 2003 BTW: GUYS just used this procedure to disable my buds 99 GM. Fast and easy too. NO tearing up the dash either ! I know it works ! Much easier than the fix listed below: My 01 i used instructions off http://www.lightsout.org and rewired my headlight switch. Ok but a PIA to do......................geo Also cheaper than that R&D switch too !
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