Don't Kick Toyota To Hard While They Are Down...

[Jubei69]

GMC rice burner....

 

http://money.cnn.com/2010/02/02/autos/chev...ndex.htm?hpt=T1

[Stevens03]

NHTSA said there were 11 complaints that a sudden increase in steering effort led to a crash, with one injury attributed to the problem.

 

That doesn't sound all that bad

[Jubei69]

Maybe, it's a blessing in diguise; GMC can stop make that little bitty 4banger and put that R&D money into their full size Truck Division......

[truckofwinandawesome]

THAT is Why I don't like too many electronics in a Vehicle. The Automakers need to practice a little KISS. KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID!!

[RJG183SA]

Lets face it all manufactures will have problems from time to time, its inevitable. What it really boils down to is how it is handled.

A perfect example of how not to handle these types of issues is what is presently taking place with Toyota. The lies and deceit has finally caught-up with them.

[KMGZ400]

THAT is Why I don't like too many electronics in a Vehicle. The Automakers need to practice a little KISS. KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID!!

 

 

i agree... im just a young kid but still...

[mbaee]

A similar steering issue happened to me with my (previous) brand new '04 Malibu. I bought it in late '03 so it was an early model of the new design.

 

Twice in the first 3 months of owning it, the power steering just cut out. The electric steering when not functioning is much harder to turn than the hydraulic steering when it's out. One time, it happened at the end of an on ramp and I had to struggle to get it to the shoulder. In either case, a reboot of the car (off and restart) fixed the problem.

 

I took it to the dealer and they said they were starting to see a few similar complaints. Apparently, there was a bad batch of steering columns that had something wrong with the position sensor so the electric steering would crap out. They replaced the column under warranty and it never happened again in the 5 years / 80k+ miles I owned it.

[unit731]

THAT is Why I don't like too many electronics in a Vehicle. The Automakers need to practice a little KISS. KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID!!

 

 

Sadly, it's only going to get worse.

 

The manufacturers are talking about electric brakes. That will be a big hit with a dead battery.

 

But all the aeroplanes now are fly by wire. No hydraulics anymore in aeroplanes.

[brims]

Should have stuck with hydraulic power steering. The steering isn't that hard without any power assist while driving.

 

As it was said, look to Toyota on how not to deal with a problem. Speaking of which, another problem just popped up because the brakes are to small on the Prius.

[Wingnut]

THAT is Why I don't like too many electronics in a Vehicle. The Automakers need to practice a little KISS. KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID!!

 

 

Sadly, it's only going to get worse.

 

The manufacturers are talking about electric brakes. That will be a big hit with a dead battery.

 

But all the aeroplanes now are fly by wire. No hydraulics anymore in aeroplanes.

 

 

I like electronic control. If we were still running simple carb setups, these engines would either have 150 horsepower or get 8 miles per gallon. I like my good power and good mileage (for what it is). If I were building a 72 Chebby or a tri-5 street rod, it would have a brand new computer-controlled V8 in it.

 

And the only people I hear bitching about "these new engines are so hard to work on"...Weren't people that worked on the old ones or they won't invest in the tools required to work on a new one. But then, I'm a computer guy so the technology doesn't scare me off.

 

Toyota dropped the ball on this...Sure...But every car manufacturer has done it. I just hope they figure it out before I need to up the life insurance policy on my wife (she's got a 2010 Camry)

[C. Charles Hahn]

As it was said, look to Toyota on how not to deal with a problem. Speaking of which, another problem just popped up because the brakes are to small on the Prius.

 

And what's worse, they knew about it but "didn't know how to break the news to customers" so they did and said nothing until the Japanese government forced them to.

 

Yes, you read that right: the JAPANESE government. Their own government. See, folks? The US isn't the only regulatory force going after Toyota. If that doesn't prove what a fraud they are, I don't know what will!

 

The executives that have been making these poor decisions (and the engineers that signed off on these sub-standard parts/etc. in the first place) should be jailed for negligent homicide as far as I'm concerned.

[truckofwinandawesome]

As it was said, look to Toyota on how not to deal with a problem. Speaking of which, another problem just popped up because the brakes are to small on the Prius.

 

And what's worse, they knew about it but "didn't know how to break the news to customers" so they did and said nothing until the Japanese government forced them to.

 

Yes, you read that right: the JAPANESE government. Their own government. See, folks? The US isn't the only regulatory force going after Toyota. If that doesn't prove what a fraud they are, I don't know what will!

 

The executives that have been making these poor decisions (and the engineers that signed off on these sub-standard parts/etc. in the first place) should be jailed for negligent homicide as far as I'm concerned.

 

 

Like i said in another post on here, I won't believe Toyota has fixed the problem until heads start Rolling in Aichi!