6.0 PSD

Kansas Kid · August 3, 2002

Ford just released the updated ratings for the new 6.0 PSD which will be available as a mid-year release on the 03 SuperDuties.

FORD’S NEW 6.0-LITER POWER STROKE® DIESEL BOASTS BEST-IN-CLASS TORQUE

This is an article addressing the new assembly line built by International just for this new motor. Notice how many motors they are capable of building per day. That is well over twice the motors produced by Dmax LTD. per day. I don't think Ford has anything to worry about as far as loosing it diesel sales title.

Indianapolis Star

General Lee 01 · August 3, 2002

I've gotta tell you guys, if I had $40k lying around and were to buy a new truck, a F-250 with PSD would be my first choice.

That sounds like a bad-butt engine.

pacodiablo · August 3, 2002

this should be very interesting. 325 HP and 20 MPG is nice, if only the engine alone wasn't $4000

wildcats · August 8, 2002

the new PSD won't cost any more than a Duramax, but yet it still will outperform it

August 22, 2002

All I know is that if I were in the Market for an HD Id go with either a Cummins (easily and cheaply modded for Awesome power) or a PSD (Tried and true and even the new 6.0 PSD I would trust)... But as far as a D-Max... I like the looks of gm's trucks but D-maxs as far as Ive seen are S*IT after even minor power mods and they just havent proven themselves as anything but a "grandpa-Tow-a-5th wheel" truck. My Dad has had a 99 PSD, an '01 Cummins, And is currently back with an '02 PSD... My grandpa has an '01 D-Max.. Gorgeous truck... And yeah it does have power... But we like to boost the power on our trucks being that we often pull loads of 13000 to 25000lbs over several good sized NM hills and the d-max doesnt take too well to any minor mods as far as our (yes) "extensive research" has shown..The Cummins we had was pushing 900lb ft torque and 400hp after a low priced addon and the 99 ford was fitted with a full banks... (700lb ft) As far as the current PSD we have, its stock and getting almost the exact same highway mileage as the D-max... Sorry for the book... Just my $.02...

Dihappy · August 22, 2002

Sorry, but if your going by specs, I just dont know how some of you guys can like Ford engines.

If your gonna be pulling stumps, or hauling trees over short distances, then Ford would be the way to go. MAX tq and hp at around 1200 RPM is fine for all that, but what about when your on the friggin highway trying to get up a hill?

The Chevy 6.0 8.1 and Diesels' tq is reached from 3000 rpm, and down to 1800 rpm for the diesel.

Speaking strickly numbers, the GM engines are better suited for real world driving conditions.

Now, i dont know how good or bad Ford's trannys are, but i could give a crap about specified HP/TQ on the dyno.

If you want a work truck, HP/TQ at the wheel is what should be advertised.

Isnt it true that the friggin Allison absorbs about 25% of power??

That sucks, but i wonder what the Ford trannys do?

In the end, I feel its HP/TQ at the WHEELS that is important.

Who gives a crap if an engine is rated at 5/10/50 more hp/tq; can it put it on the ground is a better question.

CMNTMXR81 · September 25, 2002

How come when GM leapfrogged the competition, nobody cared and then the comments like "The DuraMax is unproven" come about. The DuraMax has been out for two years now and in those two years, I can count the number of D-Max's that have come back for warranty service on one hand.

Now ford comes out with their new PSD, which essentially just meets the competition and exceeds it by a whopping 5lbs-ft of torque and all the raves and praise follow it.

I'm sorry, I'm a little confused about you guys ???

You're letting GM's history with the 6.5 Turbo Diesel cloud the future for the D-Max right out of the hole. You should also be doing the same with the PSD as it lost some pretty significant displacement by going to 6.0 liters. That means, it is making more power out of less which puts more stress on components than before.

Sorry, after driving that C4500 with the D-Max that I posted in the general section, I don't think GM Powertrain has anything to worry about between ford and Dodge. Even with the front driver's side caliper dragging, this truck which weighs more and is larger than my 2500HD, simply left it in the dust! Go read that thread, there's also other intangible factors involved such as serviceability that are important to me and GM is light years ahead of either ford or Dodge in this regard. So when one of those "unreliable and unproven" D-Max's come back, we can get them back on the road quicker than the other two brands!

Kansas Kid · October 1, 2002

Sorry, after driving that C4500 with the D-Max that I posted in the general section, I don't think GM Powertrain has anything to worry about between ford and Dodge.

As far as gas motors go, probably not. ####, I'd probably even go so far as to say you are right in that regard. I've never been a big fan of most Ford/Dodge gas motors. Especially when compared to the BBC.

But when it comes to the diesels, they should probably be worried. The Dmax is more then capable of making good reliable power, as it has proven over the last 3 years. But it is now the oldest design on the market, and is up against diesels that make well over 600ft-lbs of torque in medium duty applications compared to the 520 of the Dmax. These other diesel are already offered with 100ft-lbs more then the Dmax which would lead most people to believe they can handle more signifigant upgrades. And don't forget that this new PSD will have been placed in medium duty International trucks for over a year by the time Ford starts using them, and the ISBe Cummins has been available in Europe for over 3 years. Thats part of the reason their isn't quite as much talk of them being unproven.

Now don't get me wrong, the Dmax is proving to be a great motor. But I don't think that GM has nothing to worry about. As a matter of fact, the better be busy working on their next upgrade after the 04 model year. Rumor has in that Ford will be up rating the 6.0PSD again after GM releases its 04 numbers.

BDBWTE · October 23, 2002

All I know is that if I were in the Market for an HD Id go with either a Cummins (easily and cheaply modded for Awesome power) or a PSD (Tried and true and even the new 6.0 PSD I would trust)... But as far as a D-Max... I like the looks of gm's trucks but D-maxs as far as Ive seen are S*IT after even minor power mods and they just havent proven themselves as anything but a "grandpa-Tow-a-5th wheel" truck. My Dad has had a 99 PSD, an '01 Cummins, And is currently back with an '02 PSD... My grandpa has an '01 D-Max.. Gorgeous truck... And yeah it does have power... But we like to boost the power on our trucks being that we often pull loads of 13000 to 25000lbs over several good sized NM hills and the d-max doesnt take too well to any minor mods as far as our (yes) "extensive research" has shown..The Cummins we had was pushing 900lb ft torque and 400hp after a low priced addon and the 99 ford was fitted with a full banks... (700lb ft) As far as the current PSD we have, its stock and getting almost the exact same highway mileage as the D-max... Sorry for the book... Just my $.02...

oh you forgot no ones give two sh!ts about what you have to say

Just my $0.02

seatec · November 4, 2002

coud it be that the reason why the new PSD has more hp and torque is because they already did a mod to their puter like the EZ AMp does to a DMax? Im not vey informed on this issue but i was wondering.