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Bf Goodrich Ats Or Toyo Open Country M/ts?


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Looking for new tires on my 07 GMC Sierra Crew Cab, which currently has 275/55/20s on it now. I'm interested in about the same size tire 275/65/20 and have found the BFG and the Toyo. My concerns are ride, noise level, lifespan, and cost. I've seen several people have the BFGs but I haven't seen anyone say anything about the Toyos. I'm calling local dealers over the next few days to talk with them but I'd just like to get some ideas from some people that may have used either of these tires. Does anyone have an opinion?

 

Mike

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The Toyo Mts are really good tires and look great too. So are the BFGs. If your concerned about the noise level and tread wear I would stay away from the MT. The all terrain will be quieter and last longer.

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Hands down I would go BFGs. Have had two sets of the ATs and been very happy with them. Didnt have any road noise either. If worried about road noise stay away from MTs.

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I ran BFG A/T's on my 99 and for a while on my 08. The 1st set on the 99 lasted well over 50K but don't remember exact mileage.

They were super quiet as in zero noise.

Didn't really used them off road so can't give an opinion but they did fine on the road.

They aren't cheap though.

 

General Grabber comes in a tire very similar to the BFG and cost less. But the smallest 20" is 305/50R20 (32x12.5) Not sure if those will fit or not.

 

Wait you said you were looking at the 275/65/20??? That is a 34" tall tire compared to the 275/55/20 which is 32.

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I've got Toyo M/T's and they are great tires. They make very little noise at 70 and they seem to be wearing well, I only have about 15k on these and they are around 60% left. Under 5mph you really know that you have M/T's you can feel the lugs, but after than they are smooth. On road performance is great both dry and wet, not like a high performance street tire great but a 4x4 truck great. I don't have much experience with the offroad stuff, a little mud so far, but they work well and throw mud with very little wheel spin.

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I've got Toyo M/T's and they are great tires. They make very little noise at 70 and they seem to be wearing well, I only have about 15k on these and they are around 60% left. Under 5mph you really know that you have M/T's you can feel the lugs, but after than they are smooth. On road performance is great both dry and wet, not like a high performance street tire great but a 4x4 truck great. I don't have much experience with the offroad stuff, a little mud so far, but they work well and throw mud with very little wheel spin.

 

I say this a lot on here but bfg a/ts are ancient styling and ugly

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Take the Goodyear Duratrac's into consideration. Just a few weeks ago I was in a toss up between the BFG's and the Goodyears. So glad I went with the goodyears.

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Sorry, typo on the size I'm running they're actually 275/55/20's not 65s! I appreciate everybody's opinion. I talked to 3 different tire places yesterday afternoon and they made some more suggestions in addition to the 2 I listed.

 

Cooper Discoverer ST

Goodyear Wrangler ATS

Michelin LTX AT2

Nitto Terra Grappler

 

I've gotten prices anywhere from a little over a grand to $1860.

 

BTW, how can I tell how tall a tire is from the size? Or, is that something I have to go out and look at on the website?

 

Thanks a lot guys!

 

Mike

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BTW, how can I tell how tall a tire is from the size? Or, is that something I have to go out and look at on the website?

 

Thanks a lot guys!

 

Mike

For a basic idea you can use this formula. 275/ 25.4 = 10.8 x .55 x 2 + 20= 31.9

 

 

You take the 1st number (275) and divide by 25.4 which gives you the section width. Then multiply the 2nd number using a decimal in front of the number (.55). Then multiply x 2. Add the rim size (20) and you get the height.

 

Or you can just use a  Tire Size Calculator

 

That gives you a basic idea of size but every manufacture is a little different. 

 

For instance a 325/65/18 measures out to 34.6 x 12.7 but if you look at BFG's their tire in that size lists as a 34.6 x 13 where the Mickey Thompson in the same size measures out to 34.8 x 13.5.

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Sorry, typo on the size I'm running they're actually 275/55/20's not 65s! I appreciate everybody's opinion. I talked to 3 different tire places yesterday afternoon and they made some more suggestions in addition to the 2 I listed.

 

Cooper Discoverer ST

Goodyear Wrangler ATS

Michelin LTX AT2

Nitto Terra Grappler

 

I've gotten prices anywhere from a little over a grand to $1860.

 

BTW, how can I tell how tall a tire is from the size? Or, is that something I have to go out and look at on the website?

 

Thanks a lot guys!

 

Mike

 

$1860 for tires?!?!? What are they 38" swampers?!

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Sorry, typo on the size I'm running they're actually 275/55/20's not 65s! I appreciate everybody's opinion. I talked to 3 different tire places yesterday afternoon and they made some more suggestions in addition to the 2 I listed.

 

Cooper Discoverer ST

Goodyear Wrangler ATS

Michelin LTX AT2

Nitto Terra Grappler

 

I've gotten prices anywhere from a little over a grand to $1860.

 

BTW, how can I tell how tall a tire is from the size? Or, is that something I have to go out and look at on the website?

 

Thanks a lot guys!

 

Mike

 

$1860 for tires?!?!? What are they 38" swampers?!

 

 

20" tires arent cheap!! but i agree 1860 is more inline for some 37's

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That was for Toyo Open Country M/Ts. He quoted $465 each. Don't know that that price included Mounting, Balancing, etc...

 

Now, I called this place and asked to speak with one of the guys there that my son-in-law does a L O T of business with at his company. That guy wasn't in though so I just asked the guy who answered the phone about prices. That's who gave me that figure. Before I do anything I'll call the guy my SIL knows and get a real price. I'll probably go down there and discuss it with him too. I've gotten a couple of trailer tires from there from him for a real good price before, so these guys are on my short list unless they keep wanting to talk $465 per tire.

 

Oh yeah, and one of the guys I was talking to at another shop gave me a price about putting a leveling kit under the truck too. I just mentioned that I was thinking about doing it and he said they'd do it for $321.00!!! I just calmly told him I'd be doing that myself. $321!!!! I couldn't believe it. I know I can get the RC 2" leveling kit for $65 and I've seen the instructions, it's just not that hard from what I saw...

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