Best Programmer?

kwf1 · December 24, 2002

??? I'm trying to decide which is the better power programmer. The Hypertech III, the Superchips Max Tuner or the new Diablo Sports Predator. From what I'v heard and read, the Superchip tuner has more features than the Hypertech, but the Predator has more features than both of the others; for example it has onboard diagnostics and live monitoring like the OBD-II, torque management settings, future updates available online, and a lifetime warranty. Has anyone used the Predator or know anyone who has? How does performance results of the Predator compare to the other two?

Professor · December 24, 2002

The other require you to stay with their programs. You can change a few things. You can make many changes to the predator. Fuel and timing changes can be changed only on the predator. And of course the reasons you stated as well. I think the Diablo would be the best, but it is also more expensive.

jpendlum · December 24, 2002

I've seen the Diablo, but never played with it. We'll be carrying it really soon. It's a little pricey compared to the others, but for what you get and the options it has, it's worth it.

Rake · December 31, 2002

Does anyone know if the Predator requires premium grade gas like the Superchips tuner does? That is the one thing that the HPIII has going for it, being able to select the grade of fuel used, rather than dictating it.

jd hauler · January 1, 2003

Can anybody tell me how much these 3 programmers cost and I have to assume they are more beneficial than a chip,what kind of power gains do they have , or is it that things are just managed better ? what is good for a 99 6.0 liter, auto ?

MI 99XPL · January 5, 2003

I have a Predator and really like it. I also waited for a group buy and saved $72 on normal pricing. I've set up 2 shift styles, 1 in the normal mode and 1 for the tow haul mode. In normal mode I have it shift at 1700, 2000, 2000 rpms (for economy) and for the tow haul mode I have it shifting at about 6000 rpms (for "sport" driving.)

Rake -

Diablo recommends 91 oct gas. But they allow you to play with the timing and fuel so I run 87 oct and turned my timing back to prevent pinging. What's nice is that they have a little gauge on the 1.03 version software to tell you how much pinging you're getting. Upgrading software is free, they'll even pay for the shipping. And if you think you got some bad gas, you can check out if it's pinging, and set the timing back to help until you get some better gas.

jd hauler -

I paid $359 for it, after group discount. The list for it was $431.

I've never tried or even seen the the other 2 companies.

ShimanoFisherman · January 5, 2003

MI 99XPL, who put the group buy together?

DFowler · January 6, 2003

I would be interested in a group purchase for the Predator also,if they have them ready for the '03's. :thumb: Later,Donnie

MI 99XPL · January 11, 2003

It was RPM Outlet through the Avalanche fan club. BUT, I was told from another distributor that Diablo does not allow group discounts. Of course, that might have been a ploy to stop people from buying from the 1st distributor.