2015 YUKON NOISE IN CABIN

Wrench589 · April 17, 2015

Question - does Suburban have this issue too?

Absolutely yes! We had a rental Suburban for a week and it definitely had the booming and pressure.

Wrench589 · April 17, 2015

Here's a little fun twist -

This past weekend I went to Vegas and had two GM rental cars - A 2015 Malibu and a 2015 Cadillac ATS... Would you be surprised if I said the Malibu generated the SAME head/ear pressure as our 2 Yukons??? The extent of the pressure wasn't as bad, but it certainly was present! On the other hand, the ATS was perfect. No pressure issues with that car at all.

The Malibu isn't optioned with a "ANC" system (just as the regular Yukons) but for whatever reason, it still generated pressure... This is simply another example that the "sound reduction" system these vehicles are using is precisely what is creating the ear pressure - no doubt about it. Now...why did the ATS not have the issue - I have no idea.

You lost me. If the Malibu does not have ANC, and the Malibu creates the ear pressure, how does that prove that the "sound reduction" ANC system is creating the ear pressure?? Seems to be the opposite. And, the ATS likely has ANC and didn't create the ear pressure, so again, and opposite conclusion. Or am I missing something?

We've had a Tahoe and a Suburban as rentals, neither one equipped with ANC, and both had the booming sound and created the ear pressure.

Chris M. · April 17, 2015

A few are fleet/rental vehicles. MOST are buybacks. I work at a dealership with unlimited Carfax access. Hertz, enterprises don't sell their cars with 2000, or 5000 miles. The majority of these SUV's are one private owner buy backs. I've checked MANY.

So a buyback is listed in the Carfax? Interesting. What I'm also wondering is if these vehicles have 20000 miles or so on them and don't have the issues then are they good to go. It seems less risky than buying a new one since many here have stated their new vehicles didn't exhibit the pressure/booming during test drives but developed the problems after putting a few miles on them. I started a thread on another automotive forum I'm a member of and none of the owners of these new GM SUVs are having the issues talked about here so there are some good ones out there.

jer1346 · April 17, 2015

I noticed the booming noise in my 2015 Yukon XL within 10 minutes of leaving the dealership (Griffin Motors, Monroe, NC). I just assumed it was something minor and I'd get the dealer to "fix it" later as it was Halloween Day and I had to be somewhere.

I went back to the dealership the following Monday and took the Service Manager for a ride. We rode around for about 10 minutes and he acknowledged the noise. They had no service loaners at the time so I did not leave my Yukon with them.

About 2 weeks later I took my Yukon to Williams GMC near my office, took their Service Manager for a ride and he heard it too. I then drove a new Yukon off their lot and heard the noise. I left my Yukon with Williams for a week, they could find no solution.

I then took my Yukon across town to Liberty GMC and they had it for 3 weeks. They did the (tech bulletin) roof panel re-bonding procedure and installed a complete new exhaust system. I've got my Yukon back. but it's no better.

I just wish GM would take my Yukon back and give me a fair price for it. I don't expect all my money back, but 90% would be good considering it's only 6 months old with just under 6,000 miles.

tb6440 · April 17, 2015

Danny,

To your question we had a lot of issues with our 2015 Tahoe and ended up trading it in on a slightly smaller 2015 Toyota Highlander.

I want to stress "slightly". As when we were doing the research we realized the $35K in price difference wasn't buying us nearly as much more space.

We have been very happy with the purchase, as it seems the vehicle has been much more thought out, and construction seems superior.....for half the price.

20Sierra14 · April 18, 2015

You lost me. If the Malibu does not have ANC, and the Malibu creates the ear pressure, how does that prove that the "sound reduction" ANC system is creating the ear pressure?? Seems to be the opposite. And, the ATS likely has ANC and didn't create the ear pressure, so again, and opposite conclusion. Or am I missing something?

We've had a Tahoe and a Suburban as rentals, neither one equipped with ANC, and both had the booming sound and created the ear pressure.

I believe there are two types of "noise reduction" systems that GM is using... One is "ANC" that is actively listening to the noise in the cabin (with the exposed mics) and the other is one that is simply tied to the RPM level of the motor to reduce engine noise. Both of which pump a frequency into the cabin to reduce the noise, thus giving some folks a headache. I looked over the ATS's roof lining as well -- No exposed mics, meaning no ANC. For whatever reason, the ATS just felt right inside.

Edit: Wrench, you said it well in another post:

"What we don't know is if the "non-ANC" still have some active noise cancelling based simply on engine rpm. Bose does have technology for that, too, that simply outputs a known sound to cancel known sounds that come from the engine at certain rpms. Thus, not a full feedback noise cancelling system but a simple "open-loop" type system. GM does do this on the Terrain, so it's possible its used on all the full size, and the top trim levels get the full feedback system added on."

Edited April 18, 2015 by 20Sierra14

Techbrute · April 18, 2015

Danny,

To your question we had a lot of issues with our 2015 Tahoe and ended up trading it in on a slightly smaller 2015 Toyota Highlander.

I want to stress "slightly". As when we were doing the research we realized the $35K in price difference wasn't buying us nearly as much more space.

We have been very happy with the purchase, as it seems the vehicle has been much more thought out, and construction seems superior.....for half the price.

I think we can all agree that a crossover like the Highlander is not a substitute for a Suburban. It may work for some people, but those people clearly didn't need a Suburban in the first place.

Seating, cargo space, towing capacity, ground clearance, etc aren't even in the same realm.

If you disagree, feel free to post pics of your vehicle filled with your family of 8 with luggage for the weekend at the lake while towing your boat or trailer with 8 ATVs.

tb6440 · April 18, 2015

Well, if I would have been comparing the Suburban you may have a point, but I was talking about the 2015 Tahoe. I stand by the space comment as we found the Tahoe to be only slightly larger. As for towing, we use the F-250 for that.

Techbrute · April 18, 2015

Still relevant. You obviously didn't need a Tahoe to begin with. The Highlander isn't even available with 4wd, and the Toyota AWD is for rain, not anything more serious. You could have checked out the Honda Pilot and Chevy Traverse, too.

Anon2015 · April 18, 2015

In response to YukonTruckman

Posted 13 April 2015 - 09:16 AM

Anon2015, on 11 Apr 2015 - 9:21 PM, said:

Actually, they have admitted it (indirectly). Their customer satisfaction surveys has a long list issues which you may have experienced (water leaks from antenna, buffeting, wind noise...dissatisfied with the radio, etc.). So, they know of the complaints, problems and issues. They have made changes in the 2016 models to 'fix' the problem. Back to the survey. Good luck getting a buy back for that problem if, on the survey, you say it isn't a problem.

Can you elaborate on this? Are you talking about the 2015i models or upcoming changes for MY2016? There are several people here with 2015i's that have the buffeting. Thanks.

MY2016.

Other items 'apparently' in MY2016 will be changes in the Infotainment/Radio which were originally supposed to be in the MY2015 Yukons, and the third row seats will really lay flat. Mine do not lay flat, most do not lay flat (or even with each other) and they will either be fixed, replaced with MY2016, or GM can deal with my attorney, the FTC, and me.

Edited April 18, 2015 by Anon2015

tb6440 · April 18, 2015

Still relevant. You obviously didn't need a Tahoe to begin with. The Highlander isn't even available with 4wd, and the Toyota AWD is for rain, not anything more serious. You could have checked out the Honda Pilot and Chevy Traverse, too.

So the answer to purchasing an inferior product that costs twice as much is "you didn't need it to begin with"? I'll withhold my opinion on that kind of stuff as this thread has maintained civility to the best of my knowledge. But I will say this..... what we didn't need is a brand new vehicle off the lot to spend 45 of the first 60 days we owned it in the shop.

So while on paper it may be a far superior product.....in practice it fell well short of expectations. Regardless of what we were using it for.

Techbrute · April 18, 2015

I'm sorry that experienced so many problems with your Tahoe. The answer isn't that you didn't need it to begin with, but the answer to people who DO need those capabilities sure isn't to buy a crossover Toyota. Suggesting that a Tahoe can be replaced by a crossover is minimizing the issues that people are having with their trucks. If you want to suggest a Toyota as an alternative, at least suggest the Sequoia. Then you can at least seem like you understand why people bought a Tahoe to begin with.

tb6440 · April 18, 2015

This was Mama's car to drive around and take kids to school, road trips, etc. We upgraded from a Pilot to the larger Tahoe. We did not get 4x4 because we "didn't need it".....but we liked the vehicle with the new technology and very sharp interior and so we bought it.

We automatically assumed like our older Tahoes we would have more space than our Pilot. But when we finally started using it day to day we realized it was NOT as big as we had thought. Previous loading and hauling chores were no easier to handle in the larger vehicle. (Mind you we only had the vehicle for a short time before it was back in the shop.)

So here's a little comparison on the different vehicles including the Sequioa you mentioned. As you will notice the Tahoe and Sequoia are similarly sized outside, but inside the Highlander holds its own. Most of the towing and capabilities are less on the Highlander, and I have left those off. I figure people already know that. But if you don't need the power and the towing, you might be surprised at how small the Tahoe is on the inside when compared to "smaller" SUV's.

Tahoe / Highlander / Sequoia

Length (in) 204.0 / 191.1 / 205.1
Width (in) 80.5 / 75.8 / 79.9
Height (in) 74.4 / 68.1 / 77.0 (all as expected)

For the following I only list the 2nd and 3rd rows, as this is what we were interested in mostly.

Tahoe / Highlander / Sequoia

Head Room (in)
2nd Row 38.7 / 39.6 / 34.9
3rd Row 38.1 / 35.9 / 34.5

Leg Room (in)
2nd Row 39.0 / 38.4 / 40.9
3rd Row 24.8 / 27.7 / 35.3

Cargo Volume (CF)
2nd Row 51.6 / 42.3 / 66.6
3rd Row 15.3 / 13.8 / 18.9

So if you compare the Tahoe with the other two, you'll see the interior space is more comparable to the Highlander than the Sequoia. We noticed this the most in the 3rd row seating, and the fact that you can put the same amount of groceries behind the 3rd row in a Tahoe as you can a Honda Pilot and Toyota Highlander.

So in closing....if you need a 4wd to tow a boat....the Tahoe will definitely be your choice. But if you don't need that, and you think you're getting a lot more space with the Tahoe....you might want to double check the numbers.

Edited April 18, 2015 by tb6440

morecowbell · April 19, 2015

I took delivery of of a 2015i Tahoe LT. I did an extensive test drive before signing the papers, since I was very concerned after reading this thread. Suffice it to say, I don't have any of these issues. The truck exceeded expectations.

That said, I feel bad you for you guys and hope that GM makes it right.

DannyLLama · April 20, 2015

@tb6440 Thank you for that information, we did look at highlanders but I remember they felt a bit more compact than the 4runner but I know that cargo space is the same (almost) but I dont know why it felt so small when my wife sat in it.

On another note - has anyone heard of this problem occurring in the new Dodge Durango?