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2500HD vs 1500 Which to own?

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Raptordude Enthusiast

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The power of the 6.0 with the 4.10 gears is just crazy. Unloaded my 2500HD almost never hits 4th gear, it jumps right from 3rd to overdrive because it just has no reason to hit 4th gear along the way. It will up shift into overdrive going up hills and just lugs it out. It's a powerful truck. My buddy has a 5.3 that's lifted, has big tires, has an exhaust, intake, and chip and his truck can barely even pull itself UNLOADED on the highway in overdrive. It downshifts often and you can tell it's just gutless. The 6.0 with the 4l80e and 2500HD chassis is a killer truck

 

 

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Raptordude Enthusiast

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Also, he stopped at a gas station to fill up when I was with him and he only got 14.1 mpg....I'm getting 13.5 around town in the 6.0 so there's really no gain there

 

 

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MVP9182 Enthusiast

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Lol gutless seems to be my experience with the 1500s. I was getting around 12 mpg with a leak in the fuel line so I'm really shooting for 13 now that its fixed. But I finally got some pictures taken of it to show off!

 

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MVP9182 Enthusiast

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I payed 6100 for my 09 2500hd 4x4 single cab 6.0. The 08+ models have 356hp! Smoking most people that think it'll be slow.. which is fun

$6,100 is an awesome deal. You couldn't touch one where I'm from for less than $10,000. Personally I'm not a huge fan of how wide the new bodies are. I love the the K20 and K30. But hey for that price I think I could learn to love it!

WilliamBos Senior Enthusiast

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The power of the 6.0 with the 4.10 gears is just crazy. Unloaded my 2500HD almost never hits 4th gear, it jumps right from 3rd to overdrive because it just has no reason to hit 4th gear along the way. It will up shift into overdrive going up hills and just lugs it out. It's a powerful truck. My buddy has a 5.3 that's lifted, has big tires, has an exhaust, intake, and chip and his truck can barely even pull itself UNLOADED on the highway in overdrive. It downshifts often and you can tell it's just gutless. The 6.0 with the 4l80e and 2500HD chassis is a killer truck

 

 

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Is your truck lifted? I wondered how much a difference 4:10 gearing would make on mpg?

 

I want an hd next time, just to feel safer towing, but want nothing to do with a dmax.

Hills<Horsepower Enthusiast

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They do feel wide though.. Do some searching on craigslist Los Angeles next time you're in the market! It helps to have a flight voucher so you don't get gouged on the airfare, but anymore it's usually pretty cheap to get a one-way ticket.. I fly to La everytime I buy, it seems.. More people = more deals. It's like; "where are you from? Yeah, LA has more people." lol. Well worth the airfare though. Don't forget to calculate gas @ 10 mpg (what i got going 100mph outta that hell hole!) :|

sdeeter19555 Senior Enthusiast

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The only thing that sucks in the newer trucks is torque management. ..I was in grass with my 2012, and while it will spin to a stop when it looses traction, it won't spin the tires from a dead stop hopping on the throttle. It makes the truck feel anemic and gutless...yeah, I know a programmer will fix that, but really not something I'm looking to do.

 

I have 3.73s and it pulls alright, but my dad's 1500 ram has a higher trailer capacity. One thing he found out this weekend is that those newer rams will give plenty of pucker factor when hook to a heavy trailer...they squirm and wiggle quite a bit when hooked to a heavy trailer, something a 2500/3500 won't do.

 

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WilliamBos Senior Enthusiast

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The only thing that sucks in the newer trucks is torque management. ..I was in grass with my 2012, and while it will spin to a stop when it looses traction, it won't spin the tires from a dead stop hopping on the throttle. It makes the truck feel anemic and gutless...yeah, I know a programmer will fix that, but really not something I'm looking to do.

I have 3.73s and it pulls alright, but my dad's 1500 ram has a higher trailer capacity. One thing he found out this weekend is that those newer rams will give plenty of pucker factor when hook to a heavy trailer...they squirm and wiggle quite a bit when hooked to a heavy trailer, something a 2500/3500 won't do.

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Have you ever tried turning off the traction control? Seems to wake it up a bit.
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Don't get me started on traction control and stabilitrak...you cannot disable either fully, even in 4wd. Pressing the button lights up the dash light, but makes no real difference in mine.

 

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Don't get me started on traction control and stabilitrak...you cannot disable either fully, even in 4wd. Pressing the button lights up the dash light, but makes no real difference in mine.

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May not be a fare comparision, but a friend has an F350 6.7 that will liquify the rear tires with the traction control off, but feels way less powerful with it on.

 

Would a Diablo or Superchips fulky disable those?

MVP9182 Enthusiast

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Don't get me started on traction control and stabilitrak...you cannot disable either fully, even in 4wd. Pressing the button lights up the dash light, but makes no real difference in mine.

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4wd low should disable all that bs, traction control and stabilitrack or whatever it's called. I think that's the only way it will disable it completely without a programmer. 4wd low is probably over kill for pretty much everything. I mean unless you want to pull a house off its foundation.

 

One of the reasons I hate the new trucks, I don't need or want more computerized bs to start thinking it knows best. I'm not even a huge fan of the auto locking hubs. I didn't get stuck all summer driving in corn fields. There were times I was dragging my rear differential through the mud. I think I can survive without a computers help.

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