2017. gmc Denali crew cab vibrations resolved in 2017?

Denali_King · May 22, 2017

No vibrations here!

norulz25 · May 22, 2017

I had a slight vibration in the right front on my '17 Denali Ultimate. However, after installing a 6" lift it is substantially worse once I hit 55.

truckguy82 · May 22, 2017

This is an issue, like the crap going on in the swamp, that will never be resolved to everyone's satisfaction. So no need to keep waiting and hope for a solution in the 2027 models. The issue is totally subjective in occurrence and evaluation and spans numerous makes and models, evidenced across many forums. One thing is certain - every new truck will either:

vibrate and you feel it,

vibrate and you don't feel it,

doesn't vibrate and you don't feel it or

doesn't vibrate but you've convinced yourself you feel it.

Test a vehicle and let your hands, feet and a$$ convince your brain to your satisfaction and make your purchase accordingly.

With the '17 loaner I got, there was no mental aspect to it. It would be immediately noticeable and annoying to every person that's ever driven a car.

I'm not sure it can be labeled as a subjective issue.

If there is any doubt in your mind that the people complaining about it are being picky and it's not really a big deal, I can assure you the vibration issue is not one of those.

Jason Patterson · May 22, 2017

70-75 my 17 tries to shake the wheel out of your hands. I take people for rides just to give them a giggle. After reading the horror stories about trying to get it fixed, I'm just going to live with it. Shakes like a wheel is falling off, but funny as hell.

Thomcat · May 22, 2017

With the '17 loaner I got, there was no mental aspect to it. It would be immediately noticeable and annoying to every person that's ever driven a car.

I'm not sure it can be labeled as a subjective issue.

If there is any doubt in your mind that the people complaining about it are being picky and it's not really a big deal, I can assure you the vibration issue is not one of those.

Totally subjective......and a "vibrating loaner" does not qualify as an objective test evaluation.

Unless the vehicle was purchased new, vibration complaints are not scientifically valid because those must be viewed through the lens of a used vehicle and that any vibration may not be the result of a native defect. A used vehicle may have been "monkeyed with' by the previous owner, one of his kids or the previous driver kicked the crap out of it, possibly accident damaged and repaired with substandard parts or repair work, and/or otherwise screwed with before it was prettied up and re-sold.

All machinery with moving parts vibrate. And with the hundreds of parts moving in different planes, it is possible that a new vehicle with some parts at the far end of their individual specs will have a cumulative effect with a noticeable vibration. But it is deceiving to read the numerous posts and believe that it is the norm.....some may be real, some exaggerated, some overly critical, and a few being influenced by the hype. And the number of complaints are not a statistically valid sample being biased by a heavy population of complaints and not sampled from or compared against the entire realm of purchasers of any particular vehicle.

Somewhat similar to the "fake news" concept........ the number of times the same story is repeated over and over doesn't make it true or even a measure of the significance or relevance of the topic under discussion. Absent concrete evidence of a problem, challenge by a reputable source and methodology with final evaluation by an unbiased party.

Accordingly. vibration complaints by others is not a rational reason upon which to base ones' purchase decision...........that decision is the job of the purchasers' own hands, feet, a$$ and brain.

Thomcat · May 22, 2017

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jjinkc84 · May 22, 2017

Vibration, what is that?

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Haha just messin wit U I just drove my new 2017 Ultimate back from St Louis smooth as silk, knock on wood.

LOL I looked for weeks for my perfect truck and finally found it. And what a GREAT deal. Love that dealership man I will be back.

You and me both. Personally don't know why anybody would buy anywhere else. No dealer in my area could come close to their price....

I was in there this past Saturday to pick up my new SLT and had a horrible experience.

They're trying to make it right but I'm pretty irritated.

As for prices, depends on the truck. Local dealer has a 17 Onyx Black Denali Ultimate for under $51k...

norulz25 · May 22, 2017

70-75 my 17 tries to shake the wheel out of your hands. I take people for rides just to give them a giggle. After reading the horror stories about trying to get it fixed, I'm just going to live with it. Shakes like a wheel is falling off, but funny as hell.

I'm the same way, looks like I'm stuck with the "jiggle" until they decide to fix it. Mine is more in the body of the truck and not so much the steering wheel.

truckguy82 · May 22, 2017

Totally subjective......and a "vibrating loaner" does not qualify as an objective test evaluation.

Unless the vehicle was purchased new, vibration complaints are not scientifically valid because those must be viewed through the lens of a used vehicle and that any vibration may not be the result of a native defect. A used vehicle may have been "monkeyed with' by the previous owner, one of his kids or the previous driver kicked the crap out of it, possibly accident damaged and repaired with substandard parts or repair work, and/or otherwise screwed with before it was prettied up and re-sold.

All machinery with moving parts vibrate. And with the hundreds of parts moving in different planes, it is possible that a new vehicle with some parts at the far end of their individual specs will have a cumulative effect with a noticeable vibration. But it is deceiving to read the numerous posts and believe that it is the norm.....some may be real, some exaggerated, some overly critical, and a few being influenced by the hype. And the number of complaints are not a statistically valid sample being biased by a heavy population of complaints and not sampled from or compared against the entire realm of purchasers of any particular vehicle.

Somewhat similar to the "fake news" concept........ the number of times the same story is repeated over and over doesn't make it true or even a measure of the significance or relevance of the topic under discussion. Absent concrete evidence of a problem, challenge by a reputable source and methodology with final evaluation by an unbiased party.

Accordingly. vibration complaints by others is not a rational reason upon which to base ones' purchase decision...........that decision is the job of the purchasers' own hands, feet, a$$ and brain.

Lol at attorney style defense in this forum.

While technically a used vehicle, it's evidence enough in the real world, along with 1000's of other people complaining about it. Most of your post was to invalidate my anecdotal experience as if we are in front of a judge. Well unfortunately my anecdotal evidence, however invalid it may be because of unknown usage during it's extremely long life of a few months and 2k miles, is backed up by 1000's of other pieces of anecdotal evidence, thus turning it into real evidence.

Also, there are multiple videos out there with visible shaking, such as cups of liquid vibrating in a cup holder. While you may want to see testing equipment to verify harmonics and physical vibration testing on strictly new vehicles, a sane person would just believe a few thousand people complaining about something is a legitimate source of information.

You're basically stating all product reviews and opinions of said products are irrelevant. You may continue on your path of not listening to others without concrete evidence and a large enough data set to verify an actual problem, while the rest of us will go along reading the thoughts of others through forums and product reviews to make our decisions.

If you were an actual analytical person, you'd be able to look at the opinions of others and weigh them accordingly. In this particular matter, the opinions are a big ****ing weight.

Edited May 22, 2017 by truckguy82

Thomcat · May 23, 2017

Lol at attorney style defense in this forum.

While technically a used vehicle, it's evidence enough in the real world, along with 1000's of other people complaining about it. Most of your post was to invalidate my anecdotal experience as if we are in front of a judge. Well unfortunately my anecdotal evidence, however invalid it may be because of unknown usage during it's extremely long life of a few months and 2k miles, is backed up by 1000's of other pieces of anecdotal evidence, thus turning it into real evidence.

Also, there are multiple videos out there with visible shaking, such as cups of liquid vibrating in a cup holder. While you may want to see testing equipment to verify harmonics and physical vibration testing on strictly new vehicles, a sane person would just believe a few thousand people complaining about something is a legitimate source of information.

You're basically stating all product reviews and opinions of said products are irrelevant. You may continue on your path of not listening to others without concrete evidence and a large enough data set to verify an actual problem, while the rest of us will go along reading the thoughts of others through forums and product reviews to make our decisions.

If you were an actual analytical person, you'd be able to look at the opinions of others and weigh them accordingly. In this particular matter, the opinions are a big ****ing weight.

Everybody that breathes has an opinion. The inherent value of an opinion from a source absent certified credentials and scientific test result is zero and using simple math the value of 1 x 0 is the same as 10,000 x 0

Actually, you prove my point. In making a decision for a major purchase: Do I believe a reputable authority like Consumer Reports - YES. Do I believe a complaint on a post from an anonymous source absent certified qualifications and sophisticated test equipment - No For all I know the complainant filled up his tires with air from an air compressor without a water knockout that hadn't been drained in years and pumped a few ounces of water into the tires. And don't say that can't happen because it did to me and boy did that SOB vibrate, even the alignment shops couldn't diagnose until one had enough brains to dismount the tire.

My beef with all these vibration posts is that not one of them offers a universal solution helping all others which would have been uncovered by now if there was a universal solution to common cause defect. BUT these complaints without solution demean the value of the fine smooth running trucks owned by the majority of owners, especially when confronted by potential buyers easily influenced by these unscientific posts. And I view a test done by someone making a hand held cell phone video while driving at 70+ mph is unconvincing. I give a scientifically based source like CR a value of 1 and posts on boards 0, and 1x1 has a greater value than 10,000x0. And my truck rides smooth as silk, yet the water in a cup vibrates in the cup holder, but not the steering wheel, seats, pedals or anything else and the vibrations all but disappear when the fold down armrest is weighted down and taped or secured to the cushion below ..... If I take a handheld video of a passing tree at 70+ mph the tree will appear to vibrate too.....so what the heck are these "tests" supposed to prove?

'Nuf said - If my truck were to suddenly vibrate and the dealer can't fix it under warranty - evidently complaining doesn't provide a solution it but trading for a new one that doesn't does.

Jason Patterson · May 23, 2017

I'm the same way, looks like I'm stuck with the "jiggle" until they decide to fix it. Mine is more in the body of the truck and not so much the steering wheel.

I guess I never really thought of it that way. Mine does seem to be a more general vibration, but since I'm connected to the truck through the wheel and my ass I guess I just associated the shimmy shake with the steering. GM will come out with a fix eventually, I'm not going through the weekly dealership visits that others have done.

zachcest · May 23, 2017

My beef with all these vibration posts is that not one of them offers a universal solution helping all others which would have been uncovered by now if there was a universal solution to common cause defect. BUT these complaints without solution demean the value of the fine smooth running trucks owned by the majority of owners, especially when confronted by potential buyers easily influenced by these unscientific posts. And I view a test done by someone making a hand held cell phone video while driving at 70+ mph is unconvincing. I give a scientifically based source like CR a value of 1 and posts on boards 0, and 1x1 has a greater value than 10,000x0. And my truck rides smooth as silk, yet the water in a cup vibrates in the cup holder, but not the steering wheel, seats, pedals or anything else and the vibrations all but disappear when the fold down armrest is weighted down and taped or secured to the cushion below ..... If I take a handheld video of a passing tree at 70+ mph the tree will appear to vibrate too.....so what the heck are these "tests" supposed to prove?

This makes no sense. Say for instance this is a very small issue that happens with 0.5% of truck owners. What are the chances that Consumer Reports received a problem vehicle? 0.5% of 700,000 trucks sold last year alone is still 3,500 people with an issue. All of their complaints are invalid because CR didn't report an issue?

From what I have read people aren't saying that all GM trucks shake, they are merely giving people a heads up that it is a known issue for which GM has an apathetic attitude. Most of the complaints are that GM/dealerships either:

A) refuse to acknowledge the problem (thus causing people to visit forums to see if others are having the same issue)

B) cannot determine a fix for the problem (thus causing people to post if anyone else has had successful repairs)

C) force you to deal with the problem via outside sources (thus causing people to file complaints, post anywhere they can, etc)

Should people base their purchase on an online forum? - No. But should they completely disregard an entire (or multiple) threads just because the posters are anonymous? - Absolutely not.

Edited May 24, 2017 by zachcest

michigan2500hd · May 23, 2017

Obviously there's an issue. I bought one of the shakers. If only a handful of them shake then you're saying my chances were next to none? I have no problem with someone posting, it rather MANY people posting videos of the water bottles, etc. Heck I trust that as much as these educated idiots and their expensive equipment. These people by the way can't seem to figure the problem out yet. So much for thousands of dollars in schooling, equipment, and whatnot.

I know there's a poverty issue in the inner cities and I could post a video to show you but that would be on my cell phone, not a news channel so it must not exist. Sheesh some people!! I have no problem steering someone away from a bad purchase or at least letting them know my experience with what they're looking into.

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Thomcat · May 24, 2017

This makes no sense. Say for instance this is a very small issue that happens with 0.5% of truck owners. What are the chances that Consumer Reports received a problem vehicle? 0.5% of 700,000 trucks sold last year alone is still 3,500 people with an issue. All of their complaints are invalid because CR didn't report an issue?

From what I have read people aren't saying that all GM trucks shake, they are merely giving people a heads up that it is a known issue for which GM has an apathetic attitude. Most of the complaints are that GM/dealerships either:

A) refuse to acknowledge the problem (thus causing people to visit forums to see if others are having the same issue)

B) cannot determine a fix for the problem (thus causing people to post if anyone else has had successful repairs)

C) force you to deal with the problem via outside sources (thus causing people to file complaints, post anywhere they can, etc)

Should people base their purchase on an online forum? - No. But should they completely disregard an entire (or multiple) threads just because the posters are anonymous? - Absolutely not.

I don't doubt that some trucks shake, but they can shake for any number of reasons. Are some more vehicles by design, wheelbase, type of springs, shocks, etc. more sensitive to vibration than a say a passenger vehicle - Yes, but passenger vehicles were not designed to handle more clumsy or carry loads like a truck But, is it a common design defect which is the responsibility of the manufacturer - No, otherwise every one of them would vibrate and the vast majority of them do not.

And it is unfair to owners of a well maintained vehicle to have it branded as problematic absent proof of as inherent defect or common tendency with age that it suffers from a design defect. Often by owners that purchased it used having no idea how the previous owner of drivers (or themselves) screwed it up......could be it took a smack on the driveshaft or drive axle, bent a suspension part, did burnouts and damaged parts in the locker, spun or otherwise damaged a tire unbalancing it on the rim, or damaged the leaf springs or shifting the rear axle, raised it improperly changing the whole balance and dynamic of the vehicle, overloaded the bed and damaged or unseated the spring, caked mud on the inside of the wheel or crap on the driveshaft, wear in engine components, etc any one of which can cause the problem after it left the lot.

And a "loaner" from the dealer driven by numerous pi$$ed off owners with a "drive it like you stole it" attitude is one that has been beat to crap is the last vehicle upon which to make a an observation or base a decision

truckguy82 · May 24, 2017

I don't doubt that some trucks shake, but they can shake for any number of reasons. Are some more vehicles by design, wheelbase, type of springs, shocks, etc. more sensitive to vibration than a say a passenger vehicle - Yes, but passenger vehicles were not designed to handle more clumsy or carry loads like a truck But, is it a common design defect which is the responsibility of the manufacturer - No, otherwise every one of them would vibrate and the vast majority of them do not.

And it is unfair to owners of a well maintained vehicle to have it branded as problematic absent proof of as inherent defect or common tendency with age that it suffers from a design defect. Often by owners that purchased it used having no idea how the previous owner of drivers (or themselves) screwed it up......could be it took a smack on the driveshaft or drive axle, bent a suspension part, did burnouts and damaged parts in the locker, spun or otherwise damaged a tire unbalancing it on the rim, or damaged the leaf springs or shifting the rear axle, raised it improperly changing the whole balance and dynamic of the vehicle, overloaded the bed and damaged or unseated the spring, caked mud on the inside of the wheel or crap on the driveshaft, wear in engine components, etc any one of which can cause the problem after it left the lot.

And a "loaner" from the dealer driven by numerous pi$$ed off owners with a "drive it like you stole it" attitude is one that has been beat to crap is the last vehicle upon which to make a an observation or base a decision

Yes a 2017 denali without a scratch and 2k miles no doubt has lead a tough life, especially considering all those 10 people who drove it for sure have the mentality of a 20 year old.

You also stated it's "often by owners that purchased it used"

A complete fabrication

Also, you say "But, is it a common design defect which is the responsibility of the manufacturer - No, otherwise every one of them would vibrate and the vast majority of them do not."

Oh really, there's no variation in manufacturing that would cause some to vibrate and others to not. Got it. Maybe you can also tell me why 10% of porsche flat 6 engines that weren't meztgers produce from 1999 to 2008 will for no apparent reason have their IMS bearing fail causing full engine replacement. Or why 15% of mercedes 6.3 amg motors produced from '06 - '10 will grenade because of stretching head bolts. Or why some ls7's drop valves. Why did justin from blackbear, who's driven more of these trucks than any of us, tell me "wow your afm activation is smooth"

Your stand on the matter is just complete BS and an insult to every person on the forum who's complained about the issue. You clearly see them as being either picky, having improperly used it, or having improperly maintained it. It is simply ludacris that you dismiss 1000's of posts of people complaining about a single problem, all because you haven't experienced it. The viewpoint is just incredibly self centered, immature, and arrogant.

You just think they are all idiots. I used to think exactly like you when I was 20, and maybe that's why I have such an issue with it. Then I hit the real world and realized everybody else is not so dumb and to exactly listen to their concerns.