RonnieT Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 I have a 2000 GMC 3 door Sierra Automatic loaded with 170,000 miles, well maintained with records kept. Its been stalling lately and surging enough to be scary in traffic. Also when I start it cold of the morning , I stand beside it and reach in to start and it has been idling low to the point of dying at least once, starts ups are good though and I always allow it to come to temp before driving. Past few days I got in the seat and turned on ignition and stepped on the accelerator before starting to give sensors a voltage value, it didn’t help. Today I changed the fuel Filter and it needed it but I have seen worse, I placed my old scan tool on it and took some screen sots of it while idling, the only code was PO171 that said it was Too lean. I looked for air leaks on the vacuum hoses and purge vale and all along the air intake boots for the MAF sensor to the valve plate , I see no cracks or breaks , nothing. Is there anyone that can look at these screen shots of my scanner and give me a good guess or where to look and how to find my problem? Only major repair on engine was done by me about 6 years ago and I changed the Knock sensors because of detonation and I used OEM sensors and Felpro gaskets, I was a Mechanic for about 25 years in the 80s-90s. Any help would be appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonnieT Posted May 12, 2021 Author Share Posted May 12, 2021 a few more screen shots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Tim Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 What's the fuel pressure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black02Silverado Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 Agree, what is your fuel pressure. The fuel pumps on the GMT800's was a main failure item. If the fuel filter was in bad shape it could have put more stress on the fuel pump. I pulled my bed off to change the pump. It is easy to do with two people. Way better than trying to tackle it any other way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonnieT Posted May 12, 2021 Author Share Posted May 12, 2021 Wonder what the Pump pressure should be when running? check it on the fuel rail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamGTP Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 With the vacuum regulator it's probably around 50psi at idle and it should change if you pull the vacuum line off. Under load it should always be above 50psi and closer to 55-58psi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonnieT Posted May 12, 2021 Author Share Posted May 12, 2021 Ok, didn't think about pulling the vacuum off the regulator but I have exactly 45lbs on the gauge I trust at the fuel rail with key on and engine dead, I have exactly 45lbs with engine running and regulator working. so this isn't good, causes for stalling and surging? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black02Silverado Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 37 minutes ago, RonnieT said: Ok, didn't think about pulling the vacuum off the regulator but I have exactly 45lbs on the gauge I trust at the fuel rail with key on and engine dead, I have exactly 45lbs with engine running and regulator working. so this isn't good, causes for stalling and surging? Yes, the fuel pump is going out. Time to change it. Like I posted, it is easy, worst part is getting to it and I opted to take the bed off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamGTP Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 If you can tape the gauge to the windshield, see what it does with a load on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonnieT Posted May 12, 2021 Author Share Posted May 12, 2021 Ok, what brand is good for new pump? My fuel gauge is always been a POS and I thought if I ever changed the pump I would change the hole unit. I don't have a lift or transmission jack anymore so I may just tilt the bed.? I see that make about 3 different ones is the code on the build sheet? Tfc or TFU or? Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonnieT Posted May 12, 2021 Author Share Posted May 12, 2021 I see the code in the glove box is for a EVA fuel pump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black02Silverado Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 Best thing is to contact the dealer with your vin. They can tell you what you need. That is what I did. MS3dale who isn't on here much works at a dealership and helped me out. Then once I got the correct part number I got it off Amazon for a good price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonnieT Posted May 12, 2021 Author Share Posted May 12, 2021 (edited) service sticker says EVA but I can get the Vin ,OK if someone can look it up? its better than having the wrong pump in hand with the bed up. Ron Edited May 12, 2021 by RonnieT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonnieT Posted May 13, 2021 Author Share Posted May 13, 2021 Ok I placed the Pressure gauge on the windshield and drove around town, 30-50 miles an hour, the lowest on the gauge was @45PSI and the highest was about 48PSI fluctuated while moving and steady around 45 while idling. When I got home I took the vacuum hose off and plugged it and the gage grew up near 50PSI never anymore. VIN is 2GTEK19TSY1222104 if someone could help with a pump part number, I am thinking to change to whole unit out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black02Silverado Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 56 minutes ago, RonnieT said: Ok I placed the Pressure gauge on the windshield and drove around town, 30-50 miles an hour, the lowest on the gauge was @45PSI and the highest was about 48PSI fluctuated while moving and steady around 45 while idling. When I got home I took the vacuum hose off and plugged it and the gage grew up near 50PSI never anymore. VIN is 2GTEK19TSY1222104 if someone could help with a pump part number, I am thinking to change to whole unit out. I contacted MS3dale. awaiting to hear back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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