Banks Derringer on 2024?

davidm767 · December 10, 2024

Thanks Jay! Even just hearing from y'all is encouraging. I still have my wallet ready for the pending release of upcoming '24 products.

Best!

Alex Harris · January 18, 2025

I have a 2025 GMC 2500 Denali if you are needing 25's to test on.

* Boost Tubes and Turbo inlet have been installed as well

Edited January 18, 2025 by Alex Harris

TurboTime · January 20, 2025

Alex, congrats on the '25 and thanks for the offer to beta test! Currently, we have a long list of eager Test Pilots who are local to us in SoCal. Although I love Yuba City (I pass through on the way to Chico, my son's school), it's a bit far to drive. Our first round of test trucks must typically be within a 50 mile radius. But if things change, I'll keep your info handy!

DBaker · January 27, 2025

Can't wait. Keep seeing things from other companies, just don't know anything about them. Definitely believe what Banks sells to be the best on the market.

crazydane · February 1, 2025

So are a lot of issues found from the testing since there's no official release yet? The '24s have been on the road for like 1.5 years at this point and I believe you guys have been testing for at least 6 months now.

Edited February 1, 2025 by crazydane

TurboTime · February 2, 2025

4 hours ago, crazydane said:

So are a lot of issues found from the testing since there's no official release yet? The '24s have been on the road for like 1.5 years at this point and I believe you guys have been testing for at least 6 months now.

There have been no major issues. The delay has had to do with the communication between the new Derringer High Output and new iDash Pro. This morning we released the new Derringer for 2020-22 and Derringer for 2023. This was the major step forward that we needed. The 2023 communications protocols are the same as the 24/25. Now that the '23 is done, the firmware team will finish up the '24/25. The calibration has been done for months. It's now just buttoning up communication.

davidm767 · February 2, 2025

2 hours ago, TurboTime said:

There have been no major issues. The delay has had to do with the communication between the new Derringer High Output and new iDash Pro. This morning we released the new Derringer for 2020-22 and Derringer for 2023. This was the major step forward that we needed. The 2023 communications protocols are the same as the 24/25. Now that the '23 is done, the firmware team will finish up the '24/25. The calibration has been done for months. It's now just buttoning up communication.

Thanks! Does this mean the new HO version will only work with the iDash Pro? Or will we be able to utilize our existing iDash to with the new Derringer? Btw the HO numbers are phenomenal, it’s a substantial improvement from the existing Derringer offering.

Thanks!

TurboTime · February 3, 2025

Dave, the new Derringer H.O. will not work with the iDash. It must be paired with the iDash Pro. There just wasn't enough processing power available. The new Derringer HO has two more intercepts than the previous tuner. Now, the iDash that you have can be used as a secondary/expansion gauge.

davidm767 · February 4, 2025

2 hours ago, TurboTime said:

Dave, the new Derringer H.O. will not work with the iDash. It must be paired with the iDash Pro. There just wasn't enough processing power available. The new Derringer HO has two more intercepts than the previous tuner. Now, the iDash that you have can be used as a secondary/expansion gauge.

Good to know, thanks Jay! I’ll probably use the old iDash on my wife’s 3.0L Suburban so we can see when it’s going into Regen. I’m excited for the release date for the ‘24! Any news on the Air intake and Exhaust?

Edited February 4, 2025 by davidm767

crazydane · February 13, 2025

@TurboTime Will the iDash Pro with its Bluetooth interface be able to integrate with the Android Auto on our trucks and be controlled that way vs. using our phone? THAT would be really slick and make me less mad about dropping $419 on an iDash datamonster less than a year ago when I got my new truck. Yes I could get a dual pod mount and still use it, but the resolution is a lot better on the new one so the old one would look crude by comparison sitting next to each other.

Don't how open Android Auto is about 3rd part apps, or the application process, but hopefully you guys are already on top of that.

TurboTime · February 13, 2025

42 minutes ago, crazydane said:

@TurboTime Will the iDash Pro with its Bluetooth interface be able to integrate with the Android Auto on our trucks and be controlled that way vs. using our phone? THAT would be really slick and make me less mad about dropping $419 on an iDash datamonster less than a year ago when I got my new truck. Yes I could get a dual pod mount and still use it, but the resolution is a lot better on the new one so the old one would look crude by comparison sitting next to each other.

Don't how open Android Auto is about 3rd part apps, or the application process, but hopefully you guys are already on top of that.

We've discussed Android Auto and Car Play quite a bit. Neither service will allow you to change vehicle characteristics while in motion, which would defeat the purpose. With the iDash, you can adjust PedalMonster and Derringer while you drive. That would not be possible with Android Auto or Car Play. There are also other limitations that would make our data logging and other features cumbersome. In short, it's not on the horizon at the moment. Regarding combining an iDash Pro with an iDash Classic, I have both in my truck currently. To the untrained eye, they look very similar. We anticipate many people having one of each.

mcredi · February 17, 2025

Does this also mean that the intake and dpf back exhaust aren’t far behind?

crazydane · February 18, 2025

@TurboTime Fair enough. And yes, it sucks you can a lot of stuff while vehicle is in motion. I keep having to use my phone while driving to start Teams meetings and what not. Really wish they would provide the option to override at your own risk. Yeah, I'll get a dual stealth pod mount I guess and run both. I take it I would need the iDash Pro with data logging and can't use the data logging feature of my iDash classic since it would be the secondary?

I see that the specs for the 2023 Derringer HO is +117hp +225 lb.-ft. Since the 24' has a decent baseline bump (+25 hp and +65 lb-ft.) will the 2024 HO maintain the same bump over stock, or perhaps even do a little better? You mentioned the calibration for the 24'-25' Derringer has been done for months, when will be performance numbers be released?

Edited February 18, 2025 by crazydane

TurboTime · February 18, 2025

@crazydane If you plan to data log, yes, you'll need the new iDash Data Pro. Your iDash DataMonster will be the secondary gauge.

Regarding power gain, you have a keen eye. As you had surmised, the power gain from the forthcoming 2024/25 Derringer will be less than the 2020/23 Derringer HO because both trucks have the same ceiling. We are shipping another 10 Derringer test units this week. If all goes as planned, we should be releasing the new tuner soon.

Edited February 18, 2025 by TurboTime

TurboTime · February 18, 2025

On 2/17/2025 at 9:55 AM, mcredi said:

Does this also mean that the intake and dpf back exhaust aren’t far behind?

The DPF-back exhaust is indeed coming along. We're actually tooling the DPF delta pressure sensor connector now. It's a proprietary connector. Meanwhile, we're still characterizing the stock delta DPF sensor data. GM doesn't want anyone messing with their calculations. But we're doing it anyway. haha.