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slimjim2525 Senior Enthusiast

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Nice plow. I'm looking for one for my silverado. Did they have to cut your lower valance, to mount the frame? I'm looking at either a fisher or western. What made you decide in the hinniker?

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Nice plow. I'm looking for one for my silverado. Did they have to cut your lower valance, to mount the frame? I'm looking at either a fisher or western. What made you decide in the hinniker?

I did not have to cut the valance , I only have to take off the small airdam

and use a license plate adapter, BOTH western and Fisher require you to hack up your plastic section of bumper. I can email the install manual for those. what I really like is the cross member comes right off in the spring 4 bolts and my airdam goes back on. I will do the switch over everyspring along with my 20" wheels going back on, I kinda like the new lic plate mount its flush.

PM me if your intersted I can get one complete for less the 3200 shipped tom a loading dock, the guy was really nice that I dealt with ,I also avoided tax.

another reason I choose this brand is the pump is the ame one they use on the bigger plows up to 8feet the hyd cylinders are full size. also the 2 homeowner plows from fisher and western are short like 20 inches this is 26 which looks like a full sized plow. "well almost"

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BAD2500HD

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Thats a neet looking plow you have , don't think i have ever heard of it before i been debateing on putting one on my 1500 NBS i had a Fisher 8ft HD on my 2500 GMC that i traded in (the truck i still have the plow ) and was looking at the Fisher 7 1/2ft RD plows i don't care for all those "home owner" plows you see not much to them not high enough for me ! anyhow any info on the plow would be great and love to see more pics of how the frame etc. looks like i thought i would just take off the front valance and maybe the middle piece ( i have the chevy ) and then when summer rolled around i would take off the frame and put the back together again. thanks for any info and pics !

NathanL Enthusiast

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Living in a part of the world where we don't have those I have a question. Is it spring loaded somehow so that if you hit something under the snow it jumps up?

 

If it's not I might want to try one if it's not spring loaded for making water bars with it.

sonjaab Senior Enthusiast

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You guys have to remember that a plow dealer won't install certain models

of snowplows on 1/2 ton trucks because of (you know!) liability !!!!!!!!

Not to mention most 1/2 ton crew and x-cabs do not offer snow plow prep.

options (GM calls it VYU). Also don't forget some plow models will cause

the truck to exceed the FAWR (front axle weight rating)

Then Mr. Dealer has a issue with any truck warranty related issues.

 

Anyhoo Hiniker is a plow mfr. i think is based in MN.

Don't see too many of them here in the northeast !

 

Also note that the Western/Fisher pushbar #67981-2 is a redesigned part

and requires NO air dam modification on any 99 and up GM truck !

Yes the old model #67981 DID require air dam notching!

 

How would I know? My old#67981 off my 04 2500 won't even work on my

new GMT-900 ( it does bolt right on tho) without severe modification and/or

severe butchering or removal of the lower part of my bumper assembly.

Which would leave me with just the upper steel part only since the lower center

is one full piece that holds the end caps and fog lights......................

 

What a nightmare !!!!!!!!! 2 new wiring harness' since the 04s won't work,

new plow lights, and now a $500 push bar !

Total cost $1500.........But cheaper than a new $5,500 plow set up!

 

Anyhoo.....For any plow help/advise/used parts check out........

http://www.letstalksnow.com/forums

Dans Denali Enthusiast

Dans Denali

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That brings back memories of growing up in Minneapolis, in 1978 I bought a new F250 and installed a Western plow. I paid for the truck in 2 years plowing parking lots and 1 big Cessna dealers ramp at a local airport.

 

Dan

topdj Enthusiast

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nope, its a homeowner "non Commercial plow 448lbs" and not over the GVRW for the front axle, I even provided its own battery with a circuit breaker to the factory system.

I can have the frame and harness off in a hour with an impact if need be.

 

however if burn up the transmission " its gets hot and I say F**k it I got a warranty" or crack the frame beating the snot out of it " smashing into hugh snowbanks" well then Im screwed.

 

burned up and bent parts are pretty obvious

 

The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975 Tom T

 

The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975: How It Affects Your Vehicle's Warranty When You Install Aftermarket Parts

 

Recently, a listener called my radio show with this question: "If I install a supercharger and aftermarket ignition system on my Neon, will it void the warranty?"

To which I responded: "Possibly."

This question prompted me to comment on installing aftermarket parts and how such installation could void the vehicle's warranty. During my soliloquy, an e mail arrived at the studio from the CEO of an aftermarket parts company listening on XM Radio while traveling across Arizona. His comment:

 

"YOU SHOULD GET A COPY OF THE MAGNUSON-MOSS WARRANTY ACT OF 1975 BEFORE COMMENTING ANY FURTHER!"

 

He carried on in a more colorful manner, basically informing me that I didn't know my rear end from third base. What had I said that so infuriated this guy? When I checked into the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975 I understood.

 

A summary of how the law reads:

Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, Title 1, __101-112, 15 U.S.C. __2301 et seq. This act, effective July 4, 1975, is designed to "improve the adequacy of information available to consumers, prevent deception, and improve competition in the marketing of consumer products . . .." The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act applies only to consumer products, which are defined as "any tangible personal property which is distributed in commerce and which is normally used for personal, family, or household purposes (including any such property intended to be attached to or installed in any real property without regard to whether it is so attached or installed)." Under Section 103 of the Act, if a warrantor sells a consumer product costing more than $15 under written warranty, the writing must state the warranty in readily understandable language as determined by standards set forth by the Federal Trade Commission. There is, however, no requirement that a warranty be given nor that any product be warranted for any length of time. Thus the Act only requires that when there is a written warranty, the warrantor clearly disclose the nature of his warranty obligation prior to the sale of the product. The consumer may then compare warranty protection, thus shopping for the "best buy." To further protect the consumer from deception, the Act requires that any written warranty must be labeled as either a "full" or a "limited" warranty. Only warranties that meet the standards of the Act may be labeled as "full." One of the most important provisions of the Act prohibits a warrantor from disclaiming or modifying any implied warranty whenever any written warranty is given or service contract entered into.

 

This means that, under the provisions of the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975, an automotive dealership/carmaker cannot void your warranty because your vehicle has been modified with aftermarket parts. They (the manufacturers) have to prove that the failure was the direct result of the installed aftermarket part. Unfortunately, too many folks have gone to a dealer to have warranty service performed on their modified vehicle only to have the dealer refuse to cover the defective items. The dealer usually states, that because of the aftermarket parts installed, the warranty is void (without even attempting to determine whether or not the aftermarket part caused the problem). This is illegal...period.

 

Below are illustrations of aftermarket installations that WOULD cause the voiding of a vehicle's warranty.

 

Example 1:

You install an aftermarket electronic cruise control. While you're driving down the road, the cruise unit develops an internal short causing the accelerator pedal to depress to the floor and over-revving the engine. After this episode the engine develops an engine knock under acceleration or under load. The car is still under warranty so you take it into your local dealer and they determine that the short in the cruise unit over-revved the engine, causing the rod bearings to spin and causing damage to the crankshaft and connecting rods. In this case, your warranty is void because the aftermarket cruise unit caused the engine problem. Not only are you responsible for the engine replacement, the dealer is within his rights to charge you for the diagnosis. Too bad, you lose.

 

Example 2:

You install an aftermarket air dam system to channel more air to the cold air intake system that you installed. The air dam system causes the vehicle to overheat because it restricts airflow over the radiator. As a result of overheating, the engine blows a head gasket and a cylinder head is warped. The car is still under warranty. You take it to your dealer and they determine that the aftermarket air dam system caused the overheating and thus the cylinder head damage and gasket failure. The carmaker is not obligated to perform any repairs under the provisions of the warranty.

 

Example 3:

You install a 6' "Personal Snowplow" on your SUV (aftermarket companies are making these plows for smaller trucks). The warranty expressly states that the installation of a snowplow voids all warranty if the vehicle comes in with frame, suspension, steering linkage or any other damage that can be attributed to the plow installation. You go ahead and install the plow anyway. While plowing you drive hard into a snow bank and the air bag deploys. You take it into your dealer and they determine that the airbag deployed because of the hard impact of the plow into the snow bank. But you took the plow off! Yes, but the mounting brackets, winch, and hydraulics are still there, and there is indication of stress to the frame where the plow is mounted. Warranty void! You are left holding the bag (pun intended).

 

Example 4:

You install a high energy ignition system along with a special performance chip in your car's computer to increase performance, as well as aftermarket headers (of course you had to disconnect the O2 sensor); maybe you are a street racer. The car is due for state inspection and it fails for the emissions part of the inspection. You take it into your dealer for warranty service to the emissions system. The dealer determines that the car failed because you modified the performance system as well as the exhaust system. Sure it runs like a racecar, but it will never pass the state emissions test set up this way. And oh, by the way, you just voided your warranty because the car was set up for racing and the OEM system was cannibalized.

 

In any one of these scenarios, if the dealer just lifted the hood, saw the modifications, and stated that the warranty was void based on what they saw (without verifying that the failure was due to the aftermarket installation), the dealer would be in violation of the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975. The cause of the failure must be searched out and proven in order for the carmaker to void a warranty.

 

If you want to 'play it safe' when modifying your vehicle, consider this. Carmakers are manufacturing performance parts and accessory systems for their cars now more than ever before. Before installing anything aftermarket on a vehicle that has a warranty in place, check with your dealer/carmaker to see if there are parts/systems available for your particular vehicle from the manufacturer that would provide for the vehicle's warranty. For instance, consider Scion. The accessory products that Scion and their parent company Toyota has come out with for this vehicle are numerous and impressive to say the least. Installation of this product line should not void your warranty or put it into question.

 

Hopefully this information clears things up a bit regarding aftermarket parts and your vehicle's warranty.

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