Programmer

vikinghogue · March 25, 2009

I know no one is going to like this but a few and buckfeverz will be one maybe but I just got a handhled programmer for my truck. I got the superchips cortex ( http://www.superchips.com/products.php?pk=...C+99-09+GM+Cars ) and it has the mileage xs tune on it too. I got 2 brand new ones for a deal I couldnt pass up. I havent got mine yet should be here tomorrow or thursday but my step dad has a truck like mine but his is a gmc sierra same model and engine but his has 33s. He wont let me drive his truck but just riding in his there is a night and day difference on power and shifts firmness and alot better throttle reponse and its getting about 2 mpg more at highway speeds 65-75. Just on 87 octane mode from a dead stop my truck couldnt keep up and we both have 3.73 gears and on performance mode my truck really couldnt keep up. And before everyone starts up about custom tunes, we talked to justin about blackbear. But we didnt like the idea about having to swap out the pcm's and justin also told us we would have to find somewhere to take it to, to let someone plug it up for us and relearn everything then when the trucks went to the dealer then the stock pcm would have to go back in so he said to keep the stock pcm. And it sounded like justin didnt want to tune our trucks anyway because both of our trucks has rattleing vavles and there going to have to go back to the dealer for new lifters

stadt11 · March 25, 2009

we didnt like the idea about having to swap out the pcm's

#1 - boohoo, it takes a whopping 2 minutes to change the PCM after you get the hang of it; probably the same amount of time it takes to plug in your handheld & revert back to the stock tune (does your truck really have that much wrong with it that you have to take it to the dealer for service all the time? you don't have to remove the PCM if you take it in for an oil change, not sure if you're aware of that or not)

relearn everything then when the trucks went to the dealer

#2 - the crank relearn stays with the PCM, it doesn't have to relearn everytime, only the initial time the new one is installed

And it sounded like justin didnt want to tune our trucks anyway because both of our trucks has rattleing vavles and there going to have to go back to the dealer for new lifters

#3 - I think it would be in your best interest to get those rattleing valves fixed, going with a different programmer won't fix your lifter problem ; plus, I doubt Justin would turn down a tune (example: Zach had a bad plug/wire when he arrived at our Minnesota tune, Justin assisted Zach in finding the problem and getting it fixed so he could tune his truck)

IMO - these are poor excuses not to do a custom tune.

You Don't Know What You're Missing!

VMax2007 · March 25, 2009

we didnt like the idea about having to swap out the pcm's

#1 - boohoo, it takes a whopping 2 minutes to change the PCM after you get the hang of it; probably the same amount of time it takes to plug in your handheld & revert back to the stock tune (does your truck really have that much wrong with it that you have to take it to the dealer for service all the time? you don't have to remove the PCM if you take it in for an oil change, not sure if you're aware of that or not)

relearn everything then when the trucks went to the dealer

#2 - the crank relearn stays with the PCM, it doesn't have to relearn everytime, only the initial time the new one is installed

And it sounded like justin didnt want to tune our trucks anyway because both of our trucks has rattleing vavles and there going to have to go back to the dealer for new lifters

#3 - I think it would be in your best interest to get those rattleing valves fixed, going with a different programmer won't fix your lifter problem ; plus, I doubt Justin would turn down a tune (example: Zach had a bad plug/wire when he arrived at our Minnesota tune, Justin assisted Zach in finding the problem and getting it fixed so he could tune his truck)

IMO - these are poor excuses not to do a custom tune.

You Don't Know What You're Missing!

^^^ What he said.

vikinghogue · March 25, 2009

i dont care what im missing i said i didnt want a custom tune everyone tries to shove this down my throat and everyone elses when they say they want a handheld and im going by what justin told me. and justin did say i would have to find a shop to hook it up. and i havent took it back to the dealer yet for the new lifters

VMax2007 · March 25, 2009

i dont care what im missing i said i didnt want a custom tune everyone tries to shove this down my throat and everyone elses when they say they want a handheld and im going by what justin told me so boohoo

Well I have had both. And I WISH someone would have talked me out of the handheld before I had to learn it the hard/expensive way.

We are only trying to help, so chill out!

66nova · March 25, 2009

we didnt like the idea about having to swap out the pcm's

#1 - boohoo, it takes a whopping 2 minutes to change the PCM after you get the hang of it; probably the same amount of time it takes to plug in your handheld & revert back to the stock tune (does your truck really have that much wrong with it that you have to take it to the dealer for service all the time? you don't have to remove the PCM if you take it in for an oil change, not sure if you're aware of that or not)

relearn everything then when the trucks went to the dealer

#2 - the crank relearn stays with the PCM, it doesn't have to relearn everytime, only the initial time the new one is installed

And it sounded like justin didnt want to tune our trucks anyway because both of our trucks has rattleing vavles and there going to have to go back to the dealer for new lifters

#3 - I think it would be in your best interest to get those rattleing valves fixed, going with a different programmer won't fix your lifter problem ; plus, I doubt Justin would turn down a tune (example: Zach had a bad plug/wire when he arrived at our Minnesota tune, Justin assisted Zach in finding the problem and getting it fixed so he could tune his truck)

IMO - these are poor excuses not to do a custom tune.

You Don't Know What You're Missing!

I will have to add a +1 to that. I'm not sure buckfever will be backing you much either. His handheld is as close to a custom tune as you will get without getting custom.

I can change my PCM and TCM in less than 5 minutes, but I have been to the dealer twice with my tune in for issue not related to the drivetrain. I know that for a lot of people this is scary though (changing the pcm/tcm and going to the dealer).

BUT, as long as you are happy with your programmer I can't argue with that.

I would not recommend ever riding in a custom tuned truck. That will probably be the only time you regret it.

Edit: I typed slow did see your next response. Sorry, no one means to get you all upset. But, I am we figured you knew what kind of responses you were going to get from people that have had both types of tunes and now hate handhelds.

vikinghogue · March 25, 2009

hey i was wanting a tune but justin pretty much told us no he didnt come out and say he but that was were he was going. and we were going to drive both of our trucks a few hours away jus to let him tune them in person

VMax2007 · March 25, 2009

hey i was wanting a tune but justin pretty much told us no he didnt come out and say he but that was were he was going. and we were going to drive both of our trucks a few hours away jus to let him tune them in person

If you were going to drive to him for a live street tune, he would have done the Crank Relearn for you. It takes him about 30 secs before he begins tuning. He probably would have had you purchase the ECM/TCM from him ahead of time so he could prepare them with a stock tune per your VIN first and you could have dome the Security Relearn ahead of time too (this is done by you, but takes about 45 mins).

The only reason he would not be willing to do your tune is if you had mechanical issues you needed taken care of first. Which you should do before any tune (custom or handheld).

66nova · March 25, 2009

hey i was wanting a tune but justin pretty much told us no he didnt come out and say he but that was were he was going. and we were going to drive both of our trucks a few hours away jus to let him tune them in person

In all seriousness, for get about the custom vs handheld thing for a bit. If you have lifter noise and Justin did not want to tune it because of that. I would not put any tune custom or other until it is fixed. You realize that the dealer can supposedly see the tune you flashed with superchips even if you go back to stock.

Get your truck fixed before you tune it. Period.

vikinghogue · March 25, 2009

does any of yalls trucks have rattleing valves. i called several dealers yesterday to see how long they would have my truck and they said 4 or 5 days but they also said that they have had a bunch of new 5.3s in the shops getting new lifters and i had a topic a while back about the vavles and any of yall havent heard about these. even justin knew about this problem he said some people deal with the vavle rattle and some people gets its fixed

66nova · March 25, 2009

does any of yalls trucks have rattleing valves. i called several dealers yesterday to see how long they would have my truck and they said 4 or 5 days but they also said that they have had a bunch of new 5.3s in the shops getting new lifters and i had a topic a while back about the vavles and any of yall havent heard about these. even justin knew about this problem he said some people deal with the vavle rattle and some people gets its fixed

I have never heard my truck rattle for more than a few seconds. And that has only been a handful of times.

The moment I hear mine rattle longer than that, I am calling the dealer. When I drop it off, I will make sure I get a loaner car so I don't have to worry about transportation.

It's a new truck. GET IT FIXED!

05silvycrew · March 25, 2009

First off, I've never had a custom tune, lets clear that up off the bat.

I like my Diablosport hand-held. It was exactly what I was looking for and I got it on Ebay for $150. The newer ones allow you to log data and upload that data into a downloadable program. The program then analyzes the recorded data and makes perameter change suggestions for you to optimize performance and mileage. It's kind of like a custom tune, but I will admit probly not as good as a blackbear tune.

vikinghogue · March 25, 2009

im sure that theyll give me a loaner. im trying to find a dealer that aint a$$holes around here. one dealer say the exhaust will void the warrenty then another will say just a drop in filter causes the valves rattle and that also voids the warrenty and another one will say any cold air intake will void the warrenty and another says the synthetic oil is causing it to rattle and it keeps going on. I had a 05 cummins with full exhaust intake manifold turbo upgrades chip injecters about everything you could imagine amd they serviced it without questions. im about to go back to diesel probably cummins. this looks like my first chevy ive owned and last. there has to be a good dealer somewhere in the southeast. does anyone know of any good dealers within 2 hours of chattanooga tennessee. because if everything i do to my truck is wrong and voids the warrenty then i dont want it if i cant do what i want to with it

vikinghogue · March 25, 2009

both of mine were actually only 300. where i got mine from they ordered 50 2950 cortex and they got 4 too many so they just sold them for a 200 cash each but i knew the guys.

66nova · March 25, 2009

im sure that theyll give me a loaner. im trying to find a dealer that aint a$$holes around here. one dealer say the exhaust will void the warrenty then another will say just a drop in filter causes the valves rattle and that also voids the warrenty and another one will say any cold air intake will void the warrenty and another says the synthetic oil is causing it to rattle and it keeps going on. I had a 05 cummins with full exhaust intake manifold turbo upgrades chip injecters about everything you could imagine amd they serviced it without questions. im about to go back to diesel probably cummins. this looks like my first chevy ive owned and last. there has to be a good dealer somewhere in the southeast

Don't let them give you crap. There is a TSB on the lifters. Search on here or maybe Mike or Rich will chime in. Go into the dealer with the TSB in your hand. My dealer had no idea about the brake light TSB and I handed it over to him and he ordered the part.