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Been reading about the new e3 spark plugs and I'm thinking of changing mine out. Are they worth it. Do they really help hp and gas mileage. Would like peoples opinions on the plugs. What do you think?

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My first thought is to tell you to stick with the AC that it came with. I know of some people that have used the E3s and had a few problems that were cleared up by switching back to OEM. Same goes for Bosch. I'm not saying they are poor products, but some have had a few quirks using them. Notice I did say some not all.

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I wouldn't use them, Just an opinion from years of seeing these kind of things come and go.

 

I agree. 99% of the times, mileage and performance just is gained from new plugs instead of the tired worn out ones you're running.

 

I was running Bosch platimums in my '00 truck, and I used them for 2 plug changes (I would change plugs every year ~= 10k miles.). Both times when I pulled out the plugs, the center electrodes were gone. First time I thought I had wrecked them gapping them. Second time, I didn't gap them (they were set right out of the box). So I had a big WTF? So apparently I had pieces of hard platinum floating around inside 8 cylinders. Nice.... I just went back to OEM ones after that.

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My understanding is they are for the 4 bangers, I had a set in my 4.0 jeep wrangler and pulled them out. I just use dbbl platinum Autolite. Buy some good wires, they will do more, get the lowest ohm you can, I use Taylor out of summitracing, very good and not bad on pricing.

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What do you guys make of this article

 

http://www.powerblocktv.com/redirects/dbre...rect.php?id=537

 

Even if we're not convinced about the performance benefits, the emissions testings seems sound, no? [shrug]

 

Interesting read. At the end of the day, a spark plug has a gap, you apply power to it, and it arcs, and lights the mixture. The ideal solution is to get the mixture up around the tip so it lights better. Could be the reason why some guys claim they get better performance out of iridium plugs, since they have such a small electrode. Perhaps their claims are from the open end that allows mixture up into the arc zone easier? But by that same logic, they have 2 extra electrodes blocking that same area.

 

One thing will always be true though: You will only get one arc point from anything. In there case, as the electrodes wear, that point will move to the edge of least resistance.

 

I'll still stick with buy a good set up OEM plugs, and spend the extra money on beer. :dunno::rolleyes:

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What do you guys make of this article

 

http://www.powerblocktv.com/redirects/dbre...rect.php?id=537

 

Even if we're not convinced about the performance benefits, the emissions testings seems sound, no? [shrug]

 

Interesting read. At the end of the day, a spark plug has a gap, you apply power to it, and it arcs, and lights the mixture. The ideal solution is to get the mixture up around the tip so it lights better. Could be the reason why some guys claim they get better performance out of iridium plugs, since they have such a small electrode. Perhaps their claims are from the open end that allows mixture up into the arc zone easier? But by that same logic, they have 2 extra electrodes blocking that same area.

 

One thing will always be true though: You will only get one arc point from anything. In there case, as the electrodes wear, that point will move to the edge of least resistance.

 

I'll still stick with buy a good set up OEM plugs, and spend the extra money on beer. :lol::rolleyes:

 

 

Damn good choice. :dunno:

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What do you guys make of this article

 

http://www.powerblocktv.com/redirects/dbre...rect.php?id=537

 

Even if we're not convinced about the performance benefits, the emissions testings seems sound, no? [shrug]

 

Interesting read. At the end of the day, a spark plug has a gap, you apply power to it, and it arcs, and lights the mixture. The ideal solution is to get the mixture up around the tip so it lights better. Could be the reason why some guys claim they get better performance out of iridium plugs, since they have such a small electrode. Perhaps their claims are from the open end that allows mixture up into the arc zone easier? But by that same logic, they have 2 extra electrodes blocking that same area.

 

One thing will always be true though: You will only get one arc point from anything. In there case, as the electrodes wear, that point will move to the edge of least resistance.

 

I'll still stick with buy a good set up OEM plugs, and spend the extra money on beer. :lol::rolleyes:

 

 

Damn good choice. :dunno:

 

 

+1. I hesitate to buy into claims like this for a couple of reasons. 1. Powerblock and its shows are really one big set of advertisements (although i do try to watch them whenever I can). 2. I agree with the above poster about the additional electrodes 'blocking' the spark'. If you have a good quality electrodes, and the plugs are gapped properly, you only need one electrode, as the plug only ever fires to one for any given spark incident. Above that, you want to get the fuel/air mixture in the best relationship to that spark to create the most power/best firing conditions. Why else would racing teams/some do-it-yourselfers/hard core mechanics/whoever index their spark plugs? - Interestingly enough, they showed how to do this(and of course advertised the shims to do it with) on HorsePower not too long ago. - My $0.02

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We sell them at the auto parts store I work at. They are cheaply made and are crap. If you compare several E3s side by side the electrodes are crooked and even different lengths. They have very few heat ranges, one model # E3 is supposed to replace about 20 different Champions. The Bosch plugs are not worth putting in either. Customers bring them back all the time and the service department won't use them for tune-ups.

AC or NGK irridiums or platinums are about the best.

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Just got a E3 for the father-in-laws Jonsreds chainsaw that I am restoring for him as a Xmas gift (will post pics in the off topic area when I am done with it), it better damn work since TSC only had the E3, I would have gotten the champion if they had it.

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AD/Delco & Champion Plugs are some of the best. I'll always stick with AC/Delco plugs in my GM Products, and Champion plugs in my Jeep products. Figure this: The stock plugs that come from the factory are what the test engines for that platform likely used for plugs as well so you really can't do much better then that, considering the onboard computer was tuned with those plugs in mind.

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AD/Delco & Champion Plugs are some of the best. I'll always stick with AC/Delco plugs in my GM Products, and Champion plugs in my Jeep products. Figure this: The stock plugs that come from the factory are what the test engines for that platform likely used for plugs as well so you really can't do much better then that, considering the onboard computer was tuned with those plugs in mind.

 

Using that logic, nobody should upgrade/change their trucks at all from the stock configuration - no?

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