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Spend some time on the other sites. Ford, Ram, Toyota, Ill stick with GM.

Great point Karnut! It's easy to lose sight of the fact that I'm only reading the GM forum, where new truck owners are often quick to complain about a problem.

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Great point Karnut! It's easy to lose sight of the fact that I'm only reading the GM forum, where new truck owners are often quick to complain about a problem.

I was all set to try out the E-Boost V6 with the Fords after watching a trucks program on T,V., claiming 100hp boost with a can tune. Then I went to a Ford web site and saw all their problems and stayed with GM. Even after checking with this site. Lest of two evils.

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Exactly... media is hyping the BS just like they did to Toyota over that stupid floor mat deal. Toyota was burned bad for stupid shit for a few years of the complaints of sticking pedals when it was the persons own damn fault! It's infuriating to have sissy's rule the world! I have one recall against my Sierra but no leaks so I'm not even worried about it. I'll eventually get it done I guess to get it out of the system.

Toyo deserved it though after the media hump fest they had all those years, and their vehicles are no better than anyone else's.
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Most vehicles theses days are going to have issues (big and small) regardless of make; I think Hyundai just recalled something like 800,000 sonatas for a bad shifter or something. The more tech put into these vehicles, the more potential problems. I'm just glad GM seems to be taking the "better safe than sorry" approach instead of the "its not a problem if we don't acknowledge it" route. Seems like the justified sh#t storm they got for the ignition switch recall resulted in a change for the better.

 

Luck for me, my truck has had none of the recalls and has been great so far.

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Toyo deserved it though after the media hump fest they had all those years, and their vehicles are no better than anyone else's.

Nobody deserves to be put thru a ringer unless negligence..

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All of the top manufacturers are having higher recalls than the past. I had to trade in a new 2013 mustang gt 5.0 premium convertable after all the issues we had. Nice looking...but...

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Now that the radio issue is resolved I am 100% happy with mine as well.

 

You all bitch when manufactures wont recall of issue TSB's to fix things, now that GM is doing just that you all are bitching. Make up your mind, I bet you all would bitch if you were hung with a brand new rope as the ole saying goes.

That's easy for you to say because you don't have any issues, if you did your frustration would finally get to you and you would bitch also.

If you actually read the article the writer seems to be pointing out that, yes this truck and GM in general have a lot of recalls but at least they are letting the people know about issues, unlike in the past.

I think GM has to clean house and they know it. A lot of stuff has been overlooked in the past and recently it started getting worse, now they are implementing additional quality processes to combat it.

Just for example, even the small stuff is being overlooked, when I picked up my truck the drivers vent was installed incorrectly which broke the tabs on the backside and made it loose, the carpet on the drivers side wasn't installed correctly so there was a large gap where you could see the floorboards. Their quality assurance people haven't been doing their jobs, just letting stuff out the gate without actually checking it.

 

Edit: GM has always had a great reputation and they will overcome this. Some people with issues are frustrated, not only frustrated with their vehicle but also with having to beg the dealerships to repair them. According to this forum it seems that more people are happy with their vehicle then those of us who aren't so satisfied, we get that.

No need to get up on your high horse just because your vehicle is trouble free.

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I haven't been a part of any of these recalls and the truck has been great. Hopefully it stays that way. Just took the truck on its first long distance trip and it was awesome. Such a comfortable ride and averaged 22.7 mpg.

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And when you consider the volume of vehicles made, for some problem to slip thru the cracks at assembly is bound to happen. I hauled production auto components for a couple of decades. By the time they catch a problem with a component, they have already assembled and sent thousands of vehicles out the door. I have been to plants that were kicking out one vehicle per minute. And the lion's share of parts and components going into the vehicles are built 3rd party and shipped in. It can take a considerable time, and a lot of components installed before a minor problem that requires a recall becomes evident. I think if the public and politicians understood a little of the complexities of the logistics to put a vehicle together, it would go a long way to keeping the hooting and hollering down.

 

To give a relative idea on how time critical the logistics are, trucks bringing components in are given a 30 minute window to arrive. You do not want hundreds of trucks all stacked up at the plant and at the gates at the same time. On a late arriving truck, due to weather, breakdown, etc, there is a window of time between their assigned appt, and the point where the line has to be shut down. When the line goes down unscheduled, it costs the OEM $100,000 or more PER HOUR. You have one truck that has wiring harnesses. Another with differentials, another with tires, another with headliners, another with seats, another with air bags, etc, etc, etc. Every little component is on a different truck from a different supplier. And one semi truck with differentials will only meet, generally, a half hour of production. It is virtually a solid stream of trucks going in and out of assembly plants, day and night. There are dozens of docks all around the plant. Over a hundred docks if you take a look at the Oshawa, ON plant. it is not uncommon to have a dozen trucks in line just trying to enter the plant, and that is with the 30 minute window thing I mentioned earlier.

 

And when a component is found defective, it is not uncommon to have new components that aren't defective flown in to meet build schedules until trucks with the new components can arrive. Another layer of complexity in the logistics stream.

 

I think if folks had a little more perspective, they might be a little slower to throw a fit.

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