Jump to content

Integrated brake control

wbfn/wykk
 Share

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 45
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Popular Posts

AllTerrainX
AllTerrainX

I don't know about you, but the placement of that brake controller is just hideous and sticks way out. Under the dash would be a better spot.

Static
Static

I wasnt asking why the mod was $5k. I was asking who in there right mind would spend $5k for a brake controller. You would almost have to be mentally unstable to do something so stupid.

x219c
x219c

I'm pretty sure this has been explored in the past. It requires flashing the truck, and I thought the eventual conclusion was that it's not possible.     Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Posted Images

Denali 101 Enthusiast

Denali 101

Posted
Posted

It has been done. Just takes a lot of money.

 

Please post who/where. This is beaten to death on every forum with zero success. So just point us there. Just hacking the BCM doesn't git er done on the software side.

  • Like 1
O_J_Simpson Senior Enthusiast

O_J_Simpson

Posted
Posted

 

Please post who/where. This is beaten to death on every forum with zero success. So just point us there. Just hacking the BCM doesn't git er done on the software side.

 

 

Contact this guy: dfsmithceo @ hotmail.com Cost is very high as the program is custom and the parts must be collected from a donor truck. If I remember, his cost is north of 5 grand and the vehicle can't be serviced by a dealer once custom programmed. It is one of them "if you got the ask the price you can't afford it" mods. I say go for it!

Static Enthusiast

Static

Posted
Posted

 

 

Contact this guy: dfsmithceo @ hotmail.com Cost is very high as the program is custom and the parts must be collected from a donor truck. If I remember, his cost is north of 5 grand and the vehicle can't be serviced by a dealer once custom programmed. It is one of them "if you got the ask the price you can't afford it" mods. I say go for it!

$5k for a factory brake controller? WHY????

  • Like 1
Lgetz Senior Enthusiast

Lgetz

Posted
Posted

At 5K to program/install a JL1 after the fact, OP would be better of:

1. Trade in truck for one already equipped with this option

2. Install aftermarket trailer brake controller

 

No way would I spend 5K for that.??

  • Like 1
O_J_Simpson Senior Enthusiast

O_J_Simpson

Posted
Posted

At 5K to program/install a JL1 after the fact, OP would be better of:

1. Trade in truck for one already equipped with this option

2. Install aftermarket trailer brake controller

 

No way would I spend 5K for that.

For most people a new truck would work better. Some want the OEM controller and don't want to trade their vehicle. For them a small sum of cash is the better solution.

Static Enthusiast

Static

Posted
Posted

It is not an easy plug and play mod.

I wasnt asking why the mod was $5k. I was asking who in there right mind would spend $5k for a brake controller. You would almost have to be mentally unstable to do something so stupid.

  • Like 2
Denali 101 Enthusiast

Denali 101

Posted
Posted

 

 

Contact this guy: dfsmithceo @ hotmail.com Cost is very high as the program is custom and the parts must be collected from a donor truck. If I remember, his cost is north of 5 grand and the vehicle can't be serviced by a dealer once custom programmed. It is one of them "if you got the ask the price you can't afford it" mods. I say go for it!

Then it's still considered not possible. No brake controller is worth 5k end of story. If someone can go the route of the pigtail and a 100.00 aftermarket controller, 5k is the stupidest waste of 4900.00 ever. If you spend that money even as someone who has the expendable cash your an idiot. Better to take the hit on going upside down for 5k on a new truck. If you dump the serviceability, that's a minimum of 5k more loss to the majority of owners, and that's if you got a truck that's not problematic - we all know about 8-10 nagging things these trucks tend to go back for service on and we won't repair ourselves.

Bobber Enthusiast

Bobber

Posted
Posted

I don't know about you, but the placement of that brake controller is just hideous and sticks way out. Under the dash would be a better spot.

Maybe... until you need to use the manual lever on the P3 and end up banging your chin against the steering wheel while you try to reach under the dash to activate it... Or, you want to increase the boost level a little bit and have to go hunting for the buttons and to see the display. I for one don't like having my eyes and attention off the road that long. There is a reason that GM mounted the OE unit up high on the dash...

 

You can call my install "hideous"... I don't care. But, it's installed where I can easily access it; and I use it several times a year. It sticks out as far as it does so that there isn't a long slot cut underneath it to accommodate the manual gain lever. My trailer is not loaded the same way every time (sometimes it's got my 1000# Ranger and other camping gear, other times it's nearly empty) and needs to have the boost level adjusted accordingly. And, sometimes I don't remember to adjust the boost level before departing after loading up the trailer... so the manual gain lever is handy at my first big braking event from highway speeds. Then, after I get stopped, I can easily bump the boost level up to my usual number/setting by reading the P3's display.

 

If you decide to mount it under-dash... I'd suggest doing it as a temporary mount and use it a few times before you make it a permanent install.

Lgetz Senior Enthusiast

Lgetz

Posted
Posted

Bobber your brake controller install works for me. Since I sold my Yamaha Grizzly and the CRF450 before I traded my 14 AT for the 15 AT I wasn't concerned that it wasn't equipped with JL1. Have not towed but once with the 15 so I haven't installed my P3 controller. If I do install it will be in the pocket above the 4x4 switch. Banged my knee quite a few times with it in the 12 2500HD and swore never again to mount under dash.

O_J_Simpson Senior Enthusiast

O_J_Simpson

Posted
Posted

Then it's still considered not possible. No brake controller is worth 5k end of story. If someone can go the route of the pigtail and a 100.00 aftermarket controller, 5k is the stupidest waste of 4900.00 ever. If you spend that money even as someone who has the expendable cash your an idiot. Better to take the hit on going upside down for 5k on a new truck. If you dump the serviceability, that's a minimum of 5k more loss to the majority of owners, and that's if you got a truck that's not problematic - we all know about 8-10 nagging things these trucks tend to go back for service on and we won't repair ourselves.

You are confusing possible with practical. All you need is a donor truck and BCM reprogramming. If you can't do it yourself, there are people offering this service out there for a fee. You don't have to drop the 5 grand if you can write and program the BCM yourself. You can do it for the cost of the donor truck parts.

phabejhmoob Enthusiast

phabejhmoob

Posted
Posted

 

 

Contact this guy: dfsmithceo @ hotmail.com Cost is very high as the program is custom and the parts must be collected from a donor truck. If I remember, his cost is north of 5 grand and the vehicle can't be serviced by a dealer once custom programmed. It is one of them "if you got the ask the price you can't afford it" mods. I say go for it!

 

i'd sell my truck for a loss and get a truck with brake controller for that price.

Static Enthusiast

Static

Posted
Posted

You are confusing possible with practical. All you need is a donor truck and BCM reprogramming. If you can't do it yourself, there are people offering this service out there for a fee. You don't have to drop the 5 grand if you can write and program the BCM yourself. You can do it for the cost of the donor truck parts.

Now I dont know what the cost of BCM programming is but A LOT of people have the BCM programed for different mods and I have a hard time believing that PCM programming is anywhere near $4000 because you cant possible have more than a grand in parts. Either way its stupid. I could see it if it was going to cost $800 total or something as it will add to the resale value but anything more than that is stupid and I would also sell my truck for a loss and get one that had the brake controller before I dropped $5k. Anything is possible if you throw enough money at it, but how would be so stupid?

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Latest Articles

  • Posts

    • Grumpy Bear
      OCI, not when but why?

      By Grumpy Bear · Posted

      Point of the post sir was that while both wages and cost are rising EVERYWHERE; the cost is rising faster EVERYWHERE than the ability to buy EVERYWHERE. We're not going down the location rabbit hole. I'm aware of what economic migration is. I've lived in four states including Texas.   It's what "Purchasing Power" means.   I'm not telling you what I think. I'm telling what the government, your government, data shows.   It wasn't an argument. It wasn't a suggestion. It was a statement of FACT. You are absolutely entitled to your own opinion. Your not entitled to your own facts. If you and I were, they wouldn't be facts.    fact /făkt/   noun Knowledge or information based on real occurrences. "an account based on fact; a blur of fact and fancy." Something demonstrated to exist or known to have existed. "Genetic engineering is now a fact. That Chaucer was a real person is an undisputed fact." A real occurrence; an event. "had to prove the facts of the case." The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition • More at Wordnik   If you'd like to disagree call your Senator or Representative and let him know his departments are in error. But you and I? We are not doing this. 
    • JimCost2014
      Transmission jumping out of gear while driving.

      By JimCost2014 · Posted

      Probably a one and done post, but do you have a CEL on the dash? Was having issues with my transmission, fortunately only a week, and it turned out to be the transmission harness. Valve body was in good shape, so new harness with all the sensors attached, new fluid, and filter. Seems to have worked so far?
    • Atlas
      Missing thrust bearing? And oil selection

      By Atlas · Posted

      Two interesting tidbits of information which are NOT related were just released.   One, regarding the possible thrust bearing issues / engine failures with the 3.0. Demonworks just did a segment in which they believe they may have found "a" or "the" cause of thrust bearing failures: A missing thrust bearing. If the engine doesn't have all its thrust bearings from the factory, the missing bearing can cause extra play which ends up destroying a nearby thrust bearing which then sends metal through the engine.       Of other importance, Lake Speed Jr released some interest information regarding oil weight selection for the 3.0. Comparisons of:   AcDelco 0w20 Dexos D Mobil 1 ESP x2 0w20 Dexos D Mobil 1 ESP x2 0w30 Mobil 1 ESP x4 0w40. Mobil Delvac 5w40   Spoiler alert: The Mobils are PAO Ester -base and the ACDelco is a Group III base. Mobil shows lower wear in their tests for similar weights. Additive packages between 20-30-40 weight ESP's appear to be the same, but only 0w20 is Dexos D licensed. Wear is even more reduced with 30 and 40 weight ESP although all perform very well and resist shear and provide very similar viscosities within temperature operating ranges in the 3.0.   There are even more surprises, so just go watch it.    
    • JimmyB4
      Weird click noise when revving my truck?

      By JimmyB4 · Posted

      Hello Guys I'm new to the form,         I just put a 7-inch Rough Country lift on my 2016 GMC Sierra 1500 with the 5.3 and I also put a Borla exhaust on it. But I noticed when I'm in park or in neutral and then I rev my truck up really quick there is a bad click noise and I think it's coming from the motor somewhere. Anyways I got a video of it I will attach below I was just wondering if you guys think its rod knock or lifter tick or something like that because I know the AFM kind of made the lifters weak on these trucks.       Thanks!!!!! RIP - Chevy 5.3 IMG_6043.mov    
    • KARNUT
      OCI, not when but why?

      By KARNUT · Posted

      We’ll have to agree to disagree. I didn’t experience or know anyone who had a decent car after 100K miles in the 60s through the 80s that were daily commuter vehicles. Unless they were collector vehicles. Of course things cost more due to inflation. But we also make more money. The biggest money drains these days are things people think they need today versus what we require back in the day. Like cell phones and internet as examples. Another example is where you live. Cost of living varies from state to state. I would need twice the money to live in NJ vs Texas in retirement. The car you recently purchased was less than my first car with inflation at 3000$ in 1973. I didn’t have air, electric windows, cruise etc. Purchasing power is equivalent, you just have to do the research. 

  • GM-Trucks.com Clubs

  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...