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Grumpy Bear · September 12, 2020

You give me a dollar for a fifty cent item. What change do you expect back?

If 50 cents is just a theory then you won't mind me giving you but a nickle.

F=MA isn't a theory.

I didn't argue anything. I explained the physics.

You taunt like a child. Back in the box with you. You won't be let out again.

Petty crap.

You all want to believe subjective instead of objective. Be my guest. It has zero effect on my world.

It isn't my money your spending.

Edited September 13, 2020 by Grumpy Bear

Daly · September 12, 2020

26 minutes ago, Grumpy Bear said:

It has zero effect on my world.

It isn't my money your spending.

Exactly "your world". The V6 "I get 30mpg" world.

You argument/point is invalid here. People looking to add long tube headers aren't looking to increase MPG and don't care about what the headers are going to do for them in stop and go traffic. They want them for the peak numbers, for what they give at WOT. They want thrm for those times they go for a spirited drive and they get to see the benefits, it's the same with all performance mods.

Grumpy Bear · September 13, 2020

6 hours ago, Daly said:

Exactly "your world". The V6 "I get 30mpg" world.

You argument/point is invalid here. People looking to add long tube headers aren't looking to increase MPG and don't care about what the headers are going to do for them in stop and go traffic. They want them for the peak numbers, for what they give at WOT. They want thrm for those times they go for a spirited drive and they get to see the benefits, it's the same with all performance mods.

My world has nothing to do with it. I used the dyno sheet provided and GM's weights and measures.

Hey I get it. No one likes to find out they spend $1500 to get 15 hp and allot of noise.

Now if those headers could give me 65 hp...I'm in.

There are times when they make sense. A hundy a horse is NOT one of those times.

Grumpy Bear · September 13, 2020

I'm amused really. YOU WRONG is the chant but.....no one has challenged then math. You can't PROVE your right with a chant.

Daly · September 13, 2020

You really are just a lonely old man that has to have an opinion on everything aren't you. I'm going to start calling you Ken from now on.

So headers only net you 15hp for $1500, and?

They are often a supporting mod that work well other performance upgrades. Sometimes cheaper mods, sometimes more expensive mods. Rarely are guys putting headers on with out a tune or an upgrade to the induction system, usually its done after those as it's the next step in the chase for more power.

I mean it's OK to not have the money to spend on headers, but others do, others are willing to fork out $1500 for 15hp or more depending on what has already been done. Because guess what 15hp or 150hp, it's still a gain.

Please just go back to worrying about what oil is best for a 30mpg base model 6 pot and leave the rest of us to continue having fun experimenting with the things that make us happy. You know in the real world, instead of behind a pencil ( or pen or computer or stone, or what ever you use to write).

And next time just stop to think, maybe they already know, maybe they just don't care.

Because we really don't care...

Edited September 13, 2020 by Daly