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Time frames are very unpredictable.  It could go from 1100 to 3000 in a matter of days or weeks.  Its depends on the dealer allocation, constraints and GM production scheduling.   The can only build so many vehicles as productions is planning well in advance to ensure supply of components etc.......

 

Here is some info that may be enlightening................

 

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Allocations – The number of a particular vehicle model a dealer is assigned by GM.

Consensus – The planning and forecasting of vehicles between the dealer and GM. A quantity of vehicles that a dealer requests for a given production period from GM. Based on GM data and constraints they may or may not receive the amount requested.

Constraints – Items that are unavailable for ordering due to plant or supplier issues. This could be a certain option or an entire model of vehicle.

Event code – The status that indicates a certain point in the life cycle of a vechicle. A list of event codes can be found here http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9714

GM OrderWORKBENCH – The website used for ordering GM vehicles.

Final Allocation by Week Report – This report shows a dealer’s final allocation quantities for the specified production period.

Pass 1 – The preliminary pass of the vehicle order process which looks at only the quantity of preliminary orders that equals the lower of a dealer’s allocation quantity and desired quantity.

PDI – Pre-Delivery Inspection

Preferenced – Order has been sent to one of the GM production management systems

Preliminary order – A vehicle order that has been submitted to GM through the OrderWORKBENCH system. It would have successfully gone through Pass One. These orders have an Event Code of 1100 (Preliminary Order Accepted)

Priority number – Indicates the dealer’s preference for the placement of a preliminary order. The lower the number the higher the priority. A sold order defaults to a priority of 1, stock orders default to a priority of 99. Priority 0 means that the dealer does not want GM to place the order. The dealer can change these numbers as needed.

Sold order – A preliminary order that is placed for a customer

TPP – Target Production Period – The date range used in order to define the effective period for a marketing or allocation constraint. Also the period when a specified number of vehicles is scheduled to be produced, typically a 1-2 week period.

TPW – Target Production Week – The week in which the specified vehicle is expected to be built.

How it all works:

Consensus:

Dealer puts in for requested quantities of different model groups

Dealer allocation quantity changes from “production consensus” to “final allocation” after GM resolves any variances between the approved production volumes and production consensus quantities (needs some verification on the days referenced below)

Final Allocation by Week Report is released mid month on Wednesday

Report shows allocations by week for 2 week timeframe

Allocations are assigned on Thursday each week

Dealers have until the following Tuesday to resolve constraint issues before orders are pulled

Ordering:

Order is configured in GM OrderWORKBENCH

Customer information is assigned to order

Order is checked for constraints

Order number is generated

By default the sold order is given priority number of 1

After consensus and dealer receives allocation they can apply it to an order

If there are no constraints it will be preferenced

If no action is taken the system will pull the lowest priority number order (1-99)

If multiple orders are at the same priority number it will pull the oldest order first (need verification)

As long as there are no constraints it will be preferenced

If there are constraints the dealer would have to either re-configure the order or allow a non-constrained order through

Order is eventually run through Pass 2, 3 and possibly a 4th optional one that can be used and GM may also use

 

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9 hours ago, elcamino said:

Time frames are very unpredictable.  It could go from 1100 to 3000 in a matter of days or weeks.  Its depends on the dealer allocation, constraints and GM production scheduling.   The can only build so many vehicles as productions is planning well in advance to ensure supply of components etc.......

 

Here is some info that may be enlightening................

 

 

 

That is definitely interesting!  Now I know enough to be dangerous.  Thanks for the information.  Outside of the calling the dealership is the best way to get updates to do the online chat on GMC.com?

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On line chat can ONLY tell you the current status code for that particular time that shows when they enter the order number, nothing more as that info is proprietary GM and the GM ordering dealer.  Also the order system updates overnight so what is current today may change overnight when the prior days activity is batch updated (PS; Its not real time).   Also the system is not available on Sundays for anyone.  Even dealers will restrict that info to those that need to know and very often the salesman it not in that loop and will likely never know the vehicle is built until it arrives at the dealership, been processed (cleaned etc) and is ready for delivery.  They have a dedicated person who handles the orders and can access the Dealer system.  Having a friend at the dealer can be a big help providing he is privy to that info.  Word of mouth is often not the whole truth so keep that in mind.

 

Another thing, salesman are concerned with today, they want to sell something as most all are working on commissions. Orders that may or may not get built months down the road are not influencing their weekly pay check so its not that important to them.  You just might be a pita to them for asking. 

 

 

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Good news , truck is in the port of Montreal .

 

Will post pics when it arrives. 

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3 hours ago, dquest said:

Good news , truck is in the port of Montreal .

 

Will post pics when it arrives. 

 

Great news!  You definitely avoided the Flint plant shutdowns.  Can't wait to see her!  Bet you're excited!!

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Yes. I'll post pics when I get it. Sold the 2017 so truckless for a bit....

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I too have an order accepted back on 8/5 for a 2022 2500 Midnight Edition Crew loaded up good.. awaiting the build date

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I was 2 months from order to delivery 

Couldn't get advanced trailering tho.

 

6.6 CC LB  LT , conv package,  roof markers, gooseneck hitch platform.

 

Hope it gets out of the port this week.

 

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27 minutes ago, dquest said:

I was 2 months from order to delivery 

Couldn't get advanced trailering tho.

 

6.6 CC LB  LT , conv package,  roof markers, gooseneck hitch platform.

 

Hope it gets out of the port this week.

 

 

I think I need to find a new dealership.  I had agreed to an order June 16 and I am still waiting for my order to get picked up.  Is that normal?  I am starting to wonder if I am getting the run around but I don't know why they would do that.  

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Can't tell you if it's normal but the dealership I go to has 14 dealerships with different manufacturers of which I think 7 are chev.

 

Maybe I got lucky.

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I have officially sat in the truck. 

Landed at dealership today.

Carpet instead of Rubberized floor tho.

 

Couple days to prep etc but pics soon.

 

Did forget  the bed view camera, used to a dbl cab so didn't need it

 

Any way to add after the fact, not a big deal but a nice to have.

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On 8/25/2021 at 7:16 PM, dquest said:

I have officially sat in the truck. 

Landed at dealership today.

Carpet instead of Rubberized floor tho.

 

Couple days to prep etc but pics soon.

 

Did forget  the bed view camera, used to a dbl cab so didn't need it

 

Any way to add after the fact, not a big deal but a nice to have.

 

Hope you get it for the weekend!  Looking forward to the pics.

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On 8/30/2021 at 5:06 PM, dquest said:

Not quite the weekend but here she is. 

 

 

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Nice lookin' truck!  I bet you are loving it!  What do you think of the 6.6 and the 6 speed tranny combo? 

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