13,000lbs+ Towing

[James Beyer]

Hey all, seen the New 6.2L has max tow of 13,100lbs for a half ton. 

Did GM put a 3/4 ton frame in half tons to get this towing capacity?

What is the new crewcab payloads?

 

My 18 Chevy ltz crewcab with 6.2l, 8 speed, 3.73 gears has max towing of 11,800 and 1850lb payload in comparison.

Later-

[bobder41]

no 3/4 frame as far as I know. Tongue weight and max vehicle weight will determine if it is good to go. Combined 13,000 is good as long as the others are met.

[the wanderer]

Towing this weight in any half ton is an absolutely terrible idea unless its a one time thing 20 mins down a rural road. They build 2500's to do this.

[newdude]

21 hours ago, James Beyer said:

Hey all, seen the New 6.2L has max tow of 13,100lbs for a half ton. 

Did GM put a 3/4 ton frame in half tons to get this towing capacity?

What is the new crewcab payloads?

 

My 18 Chevy ltz crewcab with 6.2l, 8 speed, 3.73 gears has max towing of 11,800 and 1850lb payload in comparison.

Later-

 

 

No.  NHT and non NHT trucks, they all have the same frames.  Spring rates are increased, heavier cooling, taller gearing and the 9.76" axle instead of the 9.5".  

 

As for payload, gotta check the door stickers as they print the towing and payloads on a tag in the driver's door jamb.  

 

Also.  Sure, they "advertise" that weight, but they leave out the fine print in how they get to that weight.  

 

To truly, safely tow 13,000lbs regularly and reliably, that's 3/4 ton truck territory (gas or diesel).  Figure you try and hook up 13,000lbs.  Tongue weight is 10 to 15% of the trailer weight (the trailer stickers on the trucks calculate 10%).  So 10% would be 1,300lbs on the tongue.  If you payload at 1650lbs, that leaves you 350lbs of room. 

 

You have to count every ounce when trying to get that "max advertised" number, and yet I still see 1/2 tons with their bumpers dragging on the ground overloaded or over tongued and they just don't care.    

Edited January 24, 2024 by newdude

[the wanderer]

21 hours ago, newdude said:

 

 

No.  NHT and non NHT trucks, they all have the same frames.  Spring rates are increased, heavier cooling, taller gearing and the 9.76" axle instead of the 9.5".  

 

As for payload, gotta check the door stickers as they print the towing and payloads on a tag in the driver's door jamb.  

 

Also.  Sure, they "advertise" that weight, but they leave out the fine print in how they get to that weight.  

 

To truly, safely tow 13,000lbs regularly and reliably, that's 3/4 ton truck territory (gas or diesel).  Figure you try and hook up 13,000lbs.  Tongue weight is 10 to 15% of the trailer weight (the trailer stickers on the trucks calculate 10%).  So 10% would be 1,300lbs on the tongue.  If you payload at 1650lbs, that leaves you 350lbs of room. 

 

You have to count every ounce when trying to get that "max advertised" number, and yet I still see 1/2 tons with their bumpers dragging on the ground overloaded or over tongued and they just don't care.    

 

It's not just the payload (which is a big enough problem). These ratings don't distinguish between a 20 foot flatbed hauling steel at 13k pounds with no wind resistance, and a 35 foot toy hauler loaded to the max. Those are 2 totally different towing scenarios.

[ExYukon]

My 2023 Silverado 1500 crew cab short bed 4wd LTZ with NHT shows a payload of 1826 pounds and a tow rating of 13200 pounds. This truck was ordered without sunroof, bed liner or running boards to help with the payload.

[calgator73]

Qualitatively it's night and day difference between the 1500 and 2500 regardless of the similar stats.  Pulling an 11k trailer with 1300lbs of tongue was rough with the 1500 nht.  3/4 Duramax was much more composed.