Jump to content

2024 Silverado Navigation

Underwood
 Share

Recommended Posts

Underwood New Member

Underwood

Posted
Posted

My "free" 30 days onstar has expired so my nav has stopped working. I am tech challenged so the manuals instructions on how to keep it working are Greek to me. Do I have to continue the onstar subscription? There is reference to a Google account but how does one sign up for that (and what does it cost)? Anyone have instructions for dummies?

SteveP45 Enthusiast

SteveP45

Posted
Posted

No, plug in your IPhone or android based phone and use the map applications on the phone… they are free and superior to Onstar or a gps only device

Jus Cruisin Enthusiast

Jus Cruisin

Posted
Posted
25 minutes ago, SteveP45 said:

No, plug in your IPhone or android based phone and use the map applications on the phone… they are free and superior to Onstar or a gps only device

They are "free" with what ever you are paying monthly for your phone.... Not superior though because the 23's and 4's are Google so Google maps is Google maps.. 

SteveP45 Enthusiast

SteveP45

Posted
Posted

Once you plug in your phone to CarPlay, you can choose any map app which is CarPlay enabled… this means Apple Maps, Google maps, Mapquest, Waze

davidm767 Enthusiast

davidm767

Posted
Posted (edited)

Also, if you so desire, OnStar sells an App only data package that allows all the apps (including Google Maps) on your Chevy to still update/use data. CarPlay is the way to go if you want to keep it free. 

Edited by davidm767
SteveP45 Enthusiast

SteveP45

Posted
Posted

Does not make sense to pay Onstar for internet data access when you have internet via your phone carrier on your phone. The CarPlay apps  on your phone be they Apple based or Android based will work just fine through your vehicle…without Onstar.

 

Underwood New Member

Underwood

Posted
  • Author
Posted

Thank you every one for the replys. Now the dumb question, how does the map data get from the phone to the navigation system? Cable connection? Phone pairing with the vehicle? Some form of black magic?

SteveP45 Enthusiast

SteveP45

Posted
Posted

If you do not already have one, purchase a spare charging cable for your Apple or Android based phone.

In your vehicle system settings, enable carplay if not already enabled.

Plug your phone into the appropriate port on your vehicle console.

You may need to pair or sync your phone with your vehicle (also in your vehicle settings)

 

Once connected to the vehicle, if you hit the home button on the vehicle console (icon  of a house on my vehicle), you should see the magic happen.   All apps which are carplay enabled (such as mapping apps and some weather apps) will be available.   Zoom use to be enabled, but too many doofuses thought they could drive and participate in a zoom meeting at the same time.....

  • Like 1
SteveP45 Enthusiast

SteveP45

Posted
Posted

And THAT will be the last nail in the coffin for GM…. Sounds like something the “BUYDEMS” would do!….  Then I will just use the turn by turn navigation on my phone with the phone on speaker and give a big PHQUE 2 to GM and all its products.

 

First encountered CarPlay on my wife’s Santa Fe…if Hyundai would make a full size pickup, I would buy it…

KARNUT Senior Enthusiast

KARNUT

Posted
Posted

I never have used vehicle navigation. First garman then my phone when it became available. It just seemed always easier. Same with entertainment I use my phone and Bluetooth. My old truck I just bought a blue tooth speaker. The sound quality rivals any fancy stereo. 

SteveP45 Enthusiast

SteveP45

Posted
Posted

I agree… if GM manages to pull this boneheaded subscription move off, what is next… a subscription to plug your phone into your vehicle to charge it, because the phone also charges while connected to the vehicle via CarPlay?    Utter asinine bovine scatology on the part of GM.

newdude Senior Enthusiast

newdude

Posted
Posted (edited)
15 minutes ago, SteveP45 said:

And THAT will be the last nail in the coffin for GM…. Sounds like something the “BUYDEMS” would do!….  Then I will just use the turn by turn navigation on my phone with the phone on speaker and give a big PHQUE 2 to GM and all its products.

 

 

 

This has nothing to do with political parties and ideas.    

 

GM is just trying to play the same game as the German automakers and all of the other subscription based items (TV, apps, heck you can subscribe to deodorant and soap shipments).  The luxury Euro automakers are trying to force on subscriptions to added HP on EVs, heated seats, cooled seats, just about anything they think they can try.  

 

Its just another form of revenue for them that sadly a vast majority of American consumers have fallen trap to.  The only way subscription based culture goes away is for the masses to wake up to the BS that comes from that culture and stop paying for it.  TV for example, has gone from paying 1 company $200/mo for internet and 1000 channels with "nothing to watch" to having 6 subscription services with "nothing to watch" that you are still paying for just internet at probably $60-90/mo plus each service being $10-15/mo.  

 

Proof of this "shock to the system" at GM?  Starting for 2025 model year GM is including 8 years of free OnStar connected services so things like the remote phone app and Google built in functions (nav being one) will work from day one for 8 years.  Now, will they raise MSRP by the $1200 worth of service they are "including"?  Sure, but the subscription factor of it won't be there. 

 

So TLDR, its American consumers which are responsible for this big subscription based push.  

Edited by newdude
  • Like 1
SteveP45 Enthusiast

SteveP45

Posted
Posted

It is way more political than you care to admit.  A generation of minds full of mush have been indoctrinated to hate the USA and are complictly involved in creating chaos.

 

Consumables are one thing... and I do not subscribe to them either.

 

People who are paying $200 for internet service, you are beyond all help and deserve to be parted with their $$$.

 

Nor am I one who will purchase a brand new truck, then start chopping it to pieces with a lift kit, additional speakers, amplifiers and subwoofers and then turning to this forum because all of the gremlins which surface in the operation of their vehicle because of it.... but it is their vehicle and they are free to do whatever they wish...

 

The notion GM wants  to imitate the Europeans is further proof of their idiocy.

 

Here is an idea... go back to making a quality vehicle... second to none... not a luxury vehicle... a quality vehicle which people want to buy.... not the gubermint mandated EV crap which is more destructive to the environment and the pocket book than any ICE or hybrid.

My grandparents legally immigrated from Europe and never looked back.  My grandfather said we are in America now, we are Americans... "here we speaka da English".  The only time he slipped back into his native tongue was when he got mad and my grandmother would quickly cut him off by stating "English!!!".

So again to the boneheads at GM   PHQUE 2.   Will see if their plan continues to exist after 2025

  • Thanks 1
  • Haha 1
64BAwagon Senior Enthusiast

64BAwagon

Posted
Posted (edited)

Its called a revenue stream. they have been talking about it for a few years now. The same way they license the Dexos and Dexcool  certifications. I love a good Government conspiracy as much as anyone but this component of the GM story doesnt have any. By your own admission you say you arent buying a new truck so why would GM care what your preferences are ? 

I will however argue that its cultural and the more people become dependent on tech the more companies will leverage that for revenue. Personally I dont use Google maps, it has screwed me over more times than I can type. If I am going to a state or area I am unfamiliar with I order a paper map and add it to my collection. I can still drive a manual trans, change a tire and write in cursive too. 😎 

Edited by 64BAwagon
  • Thanks 2

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Forum Statistics

    250.5k
    Total Topics
    2.7m
    Total Posts

  • Member Statistics

    342,947
    Total Members
    8,960
    Most Online
    Sothpaw27
    Newest Member
    Sothpaw27
    Joined

  • Who's Online   1 Member, 0 Anonymous, 451 Guests (See full list)

  • Latest Articles

  • Posts

    • Grumpy Bear
      Some Assembly is Required

      By Grumpy Bear · Posted

      www.enginelabs.com/news/what-i-learned-today-bearing-clearances-vs-oil-viscosities/     www.enginelabs.com/news/oil-viscosity-can-the-numbers-be-misleading/ The Big Lie… Coming full circle to the reason Lake discusses the Porsche engines in particular. Based on the 2000 samples in the SPEEDiagnostix database, increasing the oil viscosity in these engines, even those run on the track, showed no significant difference in results.   The smoking gun was in the oil chemistry. That is where the data shows higher instances of more wear. Molybdenum was the key; the higher the amount, the less the wear. Speed postulates that higher viscosity oils have more thickeners to artificially inflate their viscosity numbers. These thickeners lose viscosity under shear, and the result is that not all oils of the same viscosity have the same shear stability.   Having enough viscosity is the most important characteristic, but according to Speed, once that required viscosity level is reached, additive chemistry matters more than additional viscosity. Speed also states, oil pressure problems on the racetrack aren’t a viscosity problem; it’s an oiling system problem. Running a thicker oil is just a band-aid for an underlying oiling system problem.
    • Grumpy Bear
      Some Assembly is Required

      By Grumpy Bear · Posted

      Can it still be Assembled II?   Viscosity on the decline by various means. Heat on the rise making that worse. Engine RPM in the tank. Smaller motors with more boost trying to emulate an electric motor. Full torque, zero rpm. Then we will triple the OCI. Argh.    But wait....there is more. LSPI has pushed a shift from Ca to Mg and as that cost more PLUS the run to lower sulfur compounds the TBN is moving in the wrong direction for the increased OCI's demanded.    That not being enough to placate a demand for a parameter they can't measure the other sulfur bearing compounds are also under attack. That would be zinc and phosphorus sulfonate compounds. To some degree those are being replaced with boron esters and others, i.e. titanium ect. All of which have shorter service lives. And there there is the "Secrete Sauce" marketing for AW adds that 'Can't be detected by UOA's" but trust me because I (the blenders) never ever lie.    Spoiler alert; ALL additives are sacrificial! Smaller amounts of the old blended with less robust versions of the new do not equal longer service lives. So what are the blenders recommending? Wait for it.......   MOVING THE GOAL POSTS! OMG      Let's declare the long standing TAN/TBN crossover irrelevant and tell people that soot is a great 'graphite' based lubricant which can aid tribo films. Wait, what? Let's declare that the standards used for oxidation and nitration were to conservative and can be expanded. Let's tell them that because GDI fuel dilution, although being a VISCOSITY KILLER and an acid generator is actually okay because we have better base oils that limit viscosity failure limits. (Said knowing this is measured in fractions of a centipoise and in bases not commonly used in shelf oils)   Lying from the heart is not just the new normal but we have a public, a very young public, that is so ignorant of the facts and so sure of their "RESEARCH" into AI driven models base in regurgitated  instead of scientific research based unvarnished, peer reviewed FACTS that the incoming guard is loosing their grip on reality and the OEM's are tickled pink while the blends bend the knee.    You have an ever limited set of tools to work with. And sooner or later those will be taken from you as the API and the EPA strangle the last remaining fluids from the system. What you have left is your wits. If you care to use them.    At some point in the very near future it will not longer be possible to do "What is best for the machine", and be replaced with "The best you have access too". You WILL be rewarded with half the life and twice the cost. That isn't that hard to predict.         
    • Chuck FB
      Software Update

      By Chuck FB · Posted

      I trust you saw the other comment where he knew what he was talking about !. Yes, these darned newer vehicles with all their so smart they are stupid technology, goes and drains the battery down. As you might see my other comment, I installed a Noco 5 battery tender under the hood and at this point still have the cord routed so I have to lift the hood and then plug it in but am typically parked in a garage or a shed so its not risking the engine hood in the wind. That way I am assured or hopefully so of not finding I have a battery drawn down and can't even start the truck and that also damages the battery to draw it down too far. 
    • Chuck FB
      Software Update

      By Chuck FB · Posted

      I guess no surprise my guesses were wrong !, at least now I know if I ever happen to see it grayed out in my own truck as to what is going on.    I never happened to catch my truck with it grayed out, it seemed every time I would test to see if there was an update it never found anything and yet more than once I would check to see if there was an update and there was nothing, then a day later or even that same morning I would drive to town and after more than one engine shut down in town as I did my errands it would pop up that there is an update now ready to install and the only place I have a connection to the internet is at home by wifi so its not as if it grabbed the download while driving. I don't trust these new vehicles due to all the crap they can decide to do while sitting for some days not running and run the battery down so most of the time if I know the truck will sit for a few days I plug in the battery tender I have mounted under the hood and so the only time the truck must have downloaded software was when it was sitting in the garage where the signal is awful but I have that tender plugged in and somehow it managed to download it. I honestly detest all this crap, way to easy to leave a person stranded.    Since I don't trust any of it I don't do the install of the already downloaded software until I get home and sometimes have even sat in the truck to watch what its doing as its going through the process to its conclusion as its not like it is set up that it will tell you the next time you fire up the engine that the update that was initialed actually installed or installed properly. Yes I can go into the updates and see the list. After I go through the install where I feel its safe to do so in case it breaks down as a result, I will plug in the battery tender after the fact to recharge as I don't know how much power its taking just to do the install and that can take a while for it to install. 
    • nfisherman
      Software Update

      By nfisherman · Posted

      Thanks for the reply. All settings were correct and the engine was off, as it was supposed to be. It turned out to be something simple. I took a drive for about an hour. I must have had a low battery without knowing it. The voltage gauge on the display looked ok. At the end of my drive, I shut off the engine and the update prompt came up and it updated normally. It’s ironic because one of the features of the update is a reduction of battery drain. 

  • GM-Trucks.com Clubs

  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...