Oil Consumption

Atlas · May 29

13 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

You really don’t have a clue. You just think you know. I have access to many vehicles in the field. New stuff. Diesel, gas all brands. If they use oil I would say it. No reason to say otherwise. No speculation real experience. I’m not brand loyal. I use what gives me service. It no simpler than that. If you’re using oil you’re doing something wrong or something went wrong in assembly. I just picked up a new super duty diesel last week. Five hundred fifty Horsepower. The sensation of speed was amazing. It was a fun ride on the back roads home. Of course you could say I’m making it up. I don’t care.

I don't think you're making up a story about driving a new Super Duty. I'm glad you think it's fast and fun. That's not the kind of vehicle I'd call fast and fun, but I do think they are nice trucks built for a specific purpose.

Excessive oil consumption is a problem. What is excessive? Manufacturers try to define it, although they err on their side to limit warranty and manufacturing costs.

Diesel engines burn oil. Gas engines burn oil. By design. And they burn more oil the harder they're worked How much? Over 5k-15k in a light duty pickup you might not notice the cup of oil the engine burns normally, or a couple of cups in a sump that holds a few gallons. On a semi, if you're adding a couple of quarts over 20k that's nothing on a sump that holds 15 gallons.

A whole quart in 3k on a 6.6L gas engine? Yeah, I'd consider that excessive if it were my truck. It has a relatively small sump (8 qt?) and 3k miles isn't very far.

KARNUT · May 29

1 minute ago, Atlas said:

I don't think you're making up a story about driving a new Super Duty. I'm glad you think it's fast and fun. That's not the kind of vehicle I'd call fast and fun, but I do think they are nice trucks built for a specific purpose.

Excessive oil consumption is a problem. What is excessive? Manufacturers try to define it, although they err on their side to limit warranty and manufacturing costs.

Diesel engines burn oil. Gas engines burn oil. By design. And they burn more oil the harder they're worked How much? Over 5k-15k in a light duty pickup you might not notice the cup of oil the engine burns normally, or a couple of cups in a sump that holds a few gallons. On a semi, if you're adding a couple of quarts over 20k that's nothing on a sump that holds 15 gallons.

A whole quart in 3k on a 6.6L gas engine? Yeah, I'd consider that excessive if it were my truck. It has a relatively small sump (8 qt?) and 3k miles isn't very far.

I’ve had two vehicles use oil from new. 2500 miles add a qt. They said normal. Never got worse. All my vehicles including the heavy equipment I used never used a drop. Even the ones that live at redline running the implements. Maybe it was the Amsoil. It was too many to be luck. The Supper Duty has performance vehicle numbers. 0-60 5.5 seconds.

Atlas · May 29

14 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

I’ve had two vehicles use oil from new. 2500 miles add a qt. They said normal. Never got worse. All my vehicles including the heavy equipment I used never used a drop. Even the ones that live at redline running the implements. Maybe it was the Amsoil. It was too many to be luck. The Supper Duty has performance vehicle numbers. 0-60 5.5 seconds.

5.5 is quick for a 1-ton pickup.

Thats not fast for a modern performance car or EV.

Like so many other details you overlook, would you have really noticed a little oil gone on your fleet pickups?

Engines burn Amsoil too, it’s not immune

riddler · May 29

1 hour ago, Atlas said:

Intellectual elitism really needs to make a comeback. You've got retired chemical engineers oil from the oil industry here, an active GM tech who works on these things all day long, and other people telling you you're wrong. You came here asking for opinions.

But sure, trust your feelings on this one and keep pumping whatever Ford you owned in the past, that's helping establish your credibility on the issue.

Cant fix stupid

KARNUT · May 29

16 minutes ago, Atlas said:

5.5 is quick for a 1-ton pickup.

Thats not fast for a modern performance car or EV.

Like so many other details you overlook, would you have really noticed a little oil gone on your fleet pickups?

Engines burn Amsoil too, it’s not immune

Are you naturally contrary? Or is it something else? Yea, having over 1000ft lbs of TQ is probably not much fun. And most vehicles claiming to be performance car are probably quicker than 5.5 to 60. I must be extremely lucky to manage to go almost 60 years of driving with only two oil users. Because I sure drive them like I stole them. But enough for now. I feel like I’m talking to a last born who’s trying to keep up with the older brother.

riddler · May 29

8 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

Are you naturally contrary? Or is it something else? Yea, having over 1000ft lbs of TQ is probably not much fun. And most vehicles claiming to be performance car are probably quicker than 5.5 to 60. I must be extremely lucky to manage to go almost 60 years of driving with only two oil users. Because I sure drive them like I stole them. But enough for now. I feel like I’m talking to a last born who’s trying to keep up with the older brother.

Yes hes naturally contrary. Trying to keep up with big sis.

riddler · May 29

1 hour ago, KARNUT said:

You really don’t have a clue. You just think you know. I have access to many vehicles in the field. New stuff. Diesel, gas all brands. If they use oil I would say it. No reason to say otherwise. No speculation real experience. I’m not brand loyal. I use what gives me service. It no simpler than that. If you’re using oil you’re doing something wrong or something went wrong in assembly. I just picked up a new super duty diesel last week. Five hundred fifty Horsepower. The sensation of speed was amazing. It was a fun ride on the back roads home. Of course you could say I’m making it up. I don’t care.

Hes definitely clueless. Cant fix stupid.

KARNUT · May 29

7 minutes ago, riddler said:

Hes definitely clueless. Cant fix stupid.

Some people just look at things differently. I have no reason to claim one thing if the reality is different. I still even retired have access to information from the family business. Why wouldn’t I? Oil usage isn’t a problem.

riddler · May 29

2 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

Some people just look at things differently. I have no reason to claim one thing if the reality is different. I still even retired have access to information from the family business. Why wouldn’t I? Oil usage isn’t a problem.

True, bought my first car in 1979 68 buick lasabre, burnt 1 qt every 100 miles. That motor was tired. Didnt matter how I drove it. Ive owned so many cars/trucks through the years and never had an oil burner since that old buick. Some people have to be right at all costs. I prefer clarity.

Atlas · May 29

20 minutes ago, riddler said:

True, bought my first car in 1979 68 buick lasabre, burnt 1 qt every 100 miles. That motor was tired. Didnt matter how I drove it. Ive owned so many cars/trucks through the years and never had an oil burner since that old buick. Some people have to be right at all costs. I prefer clarity.

Facts > feelings. Can't explain that to guys who eat crayons in their Fords.

riddler · May 29

4 minutes ago, Atlas said:

Facts > feelings. Can't explain that to guys who eat crayons in their Fords.

Heres your Sign if it smells bad well its a GM fan boy

Atlas · May 29

1 minute ago, riddler said:

Heres your Sign if it smells bad well its a GM fan boy

Well, I'm on a forum entirely dedicated to GM trucks Am I in the right place?

No, your oil consumption isn't normal. Yes, all engines consume oil - it's a question of how much. Do you have any other questions we can help you with?

riddler · May 29

19 minutes ago, Atlas said:

Well, I'm on a forum entirely dedicated to GM trucks Am I in the right place?

No, your oil consumption isn't normal. Yes, all engines consume oil - it's a question of how much. Do you have any other questions we can help you with?

You have been weighed, measured and found wanting. According to GM it is normal. So you disagree with your brand, finally got to the place of sanity. You have serious insecurity issues. .probably stems from neglect from childhood, or improper weening from the milk teat.

Always one JA on every forum.

Atlas · May 29

39 minutes ago, riddler said:

You have been weighed, measured and found wanting. According to GM it is normal. So you disagree with your brand, finally got to the place of sanity. You have serious insecurity issues. .probably stems from neglect from childhood, or improper weening from the milk teat.

Always one JA on every forum.

That's some wild projection! The mental gymnastics in your posts are making me laugh. Do you need a hug?