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Looking at purchasing a truck in Texas, which is approximately 1,000 miles away.  The truck looks spotless from a physical perspective, but I'm not sure if the "Emission System Checked" at 130,271 miles is a cause for concern.

 

Also, no mention of transmission fluid changes or flushes over 164,245 miles, which (since these are hard to change without an electric pump) probably means the fluid was never touched.  Does this give any red flags or trigger a "don't buy"?

 

Last thing I want to do is fly out to Texas and have a breakdown, or realize that it needs a major emission system repair, transmission repair, or other costly failure.  They are asking $27,****** out the door (before taxes) with prep fees and documentation.

 

https://www.alwaysmotors.com/pre-owned-cars/detail/2020-GMC-Sierra-1500/1521482

 

CARFAX report attached, hoping someone has the ability to check this in the GM database for recalls and repairs.

 

Thanks in advance!

CARFAX Vehicle History Report for 3GTP8DET0LG444836.pdf

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https://www.chevrolet.com/ownercenter/recalls

 

2020 GMC Sierra LD Crew SLT/Elevation-T1

VIN: 3GTP8DET0LG444836

Recalls

Recalls and/or programs for your vehicle in which repairs have not been completed are listed below. GM provides information on this website for recalls announced on or after August 20, 1999. This information is available for vehicle in which repairs have not been completed.

  • No Incomplete Recalls

     

     

    NOTE - Not all repair shop/Dealers reports to Carfax

Edited by Z45
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Thank you, @Z45!

 

NOTE - No all repair shop/Dealers reports to Carfax

 

That is my main concern.  The CARFAX looks way too clean for a 6 year old anything with 164,245 miles.  Even something known for reliability (like many Toyotas) typically has a lot more replaced, like a Nav screen, interior trim, shock/strut, or brake pads.  And surely the last set of tires (installed at ~58k miles) would be bald unless those were all highway miles.

 

I'm tempted to pay a local dealer to look up the VIN, but am not sure if that will be worthwhile.  Last time I did this, it was 100% useless, and I felt scammed - they noted the bumper was replaced years ago and that's it.  A 5-year old could spot the accident damage, even though nothing was on the CARFAX.

 

After giving the dealer a call, the truck may have a hard shift, but they have to verify with their mechanic if that's even a concern.  And I've test driven about a dozen of these now, many near Chicago, and half the trucks shift hard/odd at all throttle positions.  The ones with aftermarket lifts/larger tires shift terrible, and 3 stock trucks shifted so violently I thought the transmission valve body was going out.

 

At this point I'm conflicted, as I need a vehicle, and am coming up short locally.  Northern trucks in this price range tend to have either multiple owners, a lot of mods (lifts/oversized tires without re-gearing), and are generally in rougher shape.

 

If this truck showed up in your neighborhood for $27k and you had to purchase it sight-unseen, with the possibility of needing a 10L80 rebuild, torque converter, or rear end - would you do it?  I'm convinced most of the 10L80 trucks I test drove are broken, they can't all shift so bad, with massive flares/slipping/lurching and mis-matched downshifts like a teen driver learning stick.

Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, cherryred21duramax said:

Looking at purchasing a truck in Texas, which is approximately 1,000 miles away.  The truck looks spotless from a physical perspective, but I'm not sure if the "Emission System Checked" at 130,271 miles is a cause for concern.

 

Also, no mention of transmission fluid changes or flushes over 164,245 miles, which (since these are hard to change without an electric pump) probably means the fluid was never touched.  Does this give any red flags or trigger a "don't buy"?

 

Last thing I want to do is fly out to Texas and have a breakdown, or realize that it needs a major emission system repair, transmission repair, or other costly failure.  They are asking $27,****** out the door (before taxes) with prep fees and documentation.

 

https://www.alwaysmotors.com/pre-owned-cars/detail/2020-GMC-Sierra-1500/1521482

 

CARFAX report attached, hoping someone has the ability to check this in the GM database for recalls and repairs.

 

Thanks in advance!

CARFAX Vehicle History Report for 3GTP8DET0LG444836.pdf 1.28 MB · 10 downloads

 

 

I see some red flags.

 

- No mention in the Carfax if the oil pump belt was changed.  LM2s had a 150,000mi service interval, and its got 164,245mi on it.  So right out the gate it needs about $3000-3500 for that to be done before driving it another 150,000mi.  Belt is at the rear of the engine.  

 

- If something happens to the transmission valve body, the special coverage is expired by mileage.  That will likely be an out of pocket expense, with zero or near zero GM participation if something happened even though its in by time.

 

- 2020 LM2s seem to need timing chains after 80,000mi at some point.  They fixed this end of 2020/starting 2021 model year engines.  They will usually set a P0016 I think?  There is another $8000-10,000 if it needs a chain.  The main chain is at the back, secondary at the front so the pump belt would be done at the same time if it needed chains.  

 

- Long oil change intervals.  7,000-8,000mi on average, probably close to 0% or perhaps to or beyond 0% on the OLM.  Lots of them not at the dealer which makes me wonder how much of the oil ran through that truck was the proper Dexos D rated 0w20 oil and not just gas engine 0w20, which is not the same at all.  

 

- Long fuel filter changes, again likely taking the fuel filter life to 0% or more.  First one went 28,603, second was done 43,094 miles later at 71,697, from there another 46,452mi to 118,149mi, and then the most recent one 37,026mi later at 155,175mi.  So counting its original fuel filter, its had only 4 fuel filters on it.  No bueno IMO.  

 

 

 

Good news? 

 

- It has had only two warranty trips to the dealer.  The first free service (end of December 2020 on the Carfax), and the transmission reprogram recall (end of August 2025 on the Carfax).  

 

- Truck did a LOT of moving, so that might explain the lack of emissions related repairs like bad NOX sensors, bad exhaust temp sensors, bad glow plugs, etc.  

 

 

 

The "emissions system checked" could just be how something was flagged for Carfax.  GM dealers have to do SAVI reports for warranty repair orders so they scan the truck.  So its possible that is there for that?  

Edited by newdude
Posted (edited)

TLDR to my other post...

 

Hard. Pass.  Too many what ifs.  

 

Are you set on a 3.0 Duramax?  Have you considered anything not GM just in case?  If you don't have to have a pickup, lots of other options for $27,000 out there.   

Edited by newdude
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8 hours ago, newdude said:

TLDR to my other post...

 

Hard. Pass.  Too many what ifs.  

 

Are you set on a 3.0 Duramax?  Have you considered anything not GM just in case?  If you don't have to have a pickup, lots of other options for $27,000 out there.   

 

Thank you.

 

I am set on a 3.0 Duramax as my previous truck with a Ford Ecoboost had just as many, if not more, "common" issues.  Cam phasers, timing chain issues, 10-speed valve body and CDF drum, emissions issues, etc.  So I figured, why not get 2x the fuel mileage (these things got 27+mpg on every mixed city/highway test drive I put them through) and better towing capability with resale value to boot?

 

My minimum, shortest trip will be 50 miles 1-way and I regularly go out of state with a travel trailer.  I'm planning on using this for a marketing/event promotion business also, which would require regular towing of trailers for bands, DJs, sound and lighting gear, along with my personal camera gear for filming events.

 

Looked at other trucks in the $30k+ price range but the issues seem to be everywhere, plus too many with gaudy mods.  I'm literally sticking with RWD trucks because they tend to be actually used as trucks, vs. the 4x4 models I've seen with unsafe lifts, huge tires, and general mods that would affect reliability (I'm wondering if some of them were tuned, hence the aggressive throttle response and hard shifting).

 

So my goal is to find a stock, 3.0 with 1 or 2 owners, in good physical condition, and decently well maintained.  Can't seem to find that up here, everything in the $27-30k range has had multiple owners, smoke smell, issues, or body damage.  Or the ridiculously modified trucks with 80k miles for under $27k but lots of problems...

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On 6/15/2026 at 10:19 PM, newdude said:

 

 

I see some red flags.

 

- No mention in the Carfax if the oil pump belt was changed.  LM2s had a 150,000mi service interval, and its got 164,245mi on it.  So right out the gate it needs about $3000-3500 for that to be done before driving it another 150,000mi.  Belt is at the rear of the engine.  

 

- If something happens to the transmission valve body, the special coverage is expired by mileage.  That will likely be an out of pocket expense, with zero or near zero GM participation if something happened even though its in by time.

 

- 2020 LM2s seem to need timing chains after 80,000mi at some point.  They fixed this end of 2020/starting 2021 model year engines.  They will usually set a P0016 I think?  There is another $8000-10,000 if it needs a chain.  The main chain is at the back, secondary at the front so the pump belt would be done at the same time if it needed chains.  

 

- Long oil change intervals.  7,000-8,000mi on average, probably close to 0% or perhaps to or beyond 0% on the OLM.  Lots of them not at the dealer which makes me wonder how much of the oil ran through that truck was the proper Dexos D rated 0w20 oil and not just gas engine 0w20, which is not the same at all.  

 

- Long fuel filter changes, again likely taking the fuel filter life to 0% or more.  First one went 28,603, second was done 43,094 miles later at 71,697, from there another 46,452mi to 118,149mi, and then the most recent one 37,026mi later at 155,175mi.  So counting its original fuel filter, its had only 4 fuel filters on it.  No bueno IMO.

 

Does any of this change if the seller dropped the price to $22.5k?  Mechanic is supposed to verify the transmission concern but they have not got back to me yet.  Even if a transmission needed to be purchased, I'm looking at <$30k which puts me right back to where I started.

 

In the meantime, I test drove 2 trucks locally back-to-back, one Denali and one SLE, the SLE was noisy, jerky, and did not inspire confidence, while the Denali was over $30k but just sold the other day.  If $32k buys you a Denali with 100k miles and this truck can be had for $32k with a brand new transmission, with GM parts warranty, does that skew things?

 

FWIW, all the trucks I drove locally had a much worse service history - emissions work, valve body work, one even had the whole transmission replaced with lower mileage than the one in TX.  I'm guessing those were "short trip" vehicles, as they only racked up around 100k miles in 6 years - a lot less than 164k miles in just under 6 years.

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, cherryred21duramax said:

 

Does any of this change if the seller dropped the price to $22.5k?  Mechanic is supposed to verify the transmission concern but they have not got back to me yet.  Even if a transmission needed to be purchased, I'm looking at <$30k which puts me right back to where I started.

 

In the meantime, I test drove 2 trucks locally back-to-back, one Denali and one SLE, the SLE was noisy, jerky, and did not inspire confidence, while the Denali was over $30k but just sold the other day.  If $32k buys you a Denali with 100k miles and this truck can be had for $32k with a brand new transmission, with GM parts warranty, does that skew things?

 

 

 

Boy do they have some margins in that to come down $5000!!!!!

 

Does it change my thoughts?  Not really.  That's only one thing addressed.  The transmission.  Still needs an oil pump belt if that hasn't been done yet either, which per the Carfax, looks like no. 

 

I still don't like the long service intervals on the oil and the fuel filters.  

 

And then still, timing chain because 2020.  

 

 

 

Edited by newdude
Posted

Thanks @newdude, guess I'll keep looking.  Test driving so many trucks that have obvious things broken, I'm thinking "if they couldn't even be bothered to fix the power seat," what else is broken".

 

Just drove a 2021 where the power seat motor was grinding/binding and wouldn't do anything but make a terrible sound.

 

An owner that puts dents on the bumper, doesn't fix a seat motor, and had spotty service intervals (along with missing major services) doesn't give me the best of confidence.

 

Amazed at the number of people that will finance a $60k+ truck, run it into the ground, then trade with a loan balance (every single one had "loan/lien reported" on the CARFAX at the last year of registration).

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