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Can you still get a manual transmission on any full size GM truck? I have seen some basic equipment work trucks with no options at all, and 4 speed auto is shown as standard equipment. A/C used to be standard on these, now it is optional. But Onstar and XM radio is standard. This makes no sense. Who needs a truck with no A/C and Onstar?

redvett Senior Enthusiast

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98% of current buyers do not want a manual transmission because of bumper to bumper traffic. Do you want to hold the clutch in for a couple of hours in traffic? Not me.

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Who needs a truck with no A/C and Onstar?

 

someone in alaska?

 

 

i could have sworn i saw a GMT900 with a manual tranny while i was shopping for mine but just checked on the 'build a' site and didnt see an option to select manual so who knows ...

unit731 Senior Enthusiast

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1990 Chevrolet 1500 4.3 Regular Cab Long Bed AND Standard Manual Transmission.

 

I have been driving this for 10 years. Love it. I like shifting. And some manual transmissions get better gas mileage.

 

So there!

 

But anyway, the new GMT900. Standard transmission may be available on the 2500 - not sure though.

 

But on the flip side, most young people today don't even know how to operate a rotary telephone.

 

And besides, how can one talk on the cell phone, eat a McChicken sandwich, smoke a cigarette, and put on makeup with a manual standard transmission? Tell me, please!

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Can you still get a manual transmission on any full size GM truck? I have seen some basic equipment work trucks with no options at all, and 4 speed auto is shown as standard equipment. A/C used to be standard on these, now it is optional. But Onstar and XM radio is standard. This makes no sense. Who needs a truck with no A/C and Onstar?

 

It makes perfect since. GM has a nice contract with XM radio. XM allows most or all GM vehicles to have XM capabilities out of the factory, apparently it's standard equipment. It's marketing. It's easier for XM to get customers when thousands of people who buy GM's every week already have XM capabilities with a free subscription or some teaser channels.

 

As for manuals, no body, or very minimal amounts of customers want them, so why pay lots of people to build them in a plant? No demand = no supply. Labor is expensive.

 

A/C is optional because it's a money maker. Who doesn't want to have A/C these days? Everyone does, so charge them $900 to have it.

pm26 Senior Enthusiast

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98% of current buyers do not want a manual transmission because of bumper to bumper traffic. Do you want to hold the clutch in for a couple of hours in traffic? Not me.

 

All I asked was a simple question whether or not manual transmissions were still available on new '08 trucks. I do not know where you got the 98% from but I bet there is plenty of people who do prefer a well designed manual transmission over an automatic one.

But, sadly, we are turning into a nation of lard asses, who must constantly eat and drink, and talk on the cell phone, even while driving , and that is more difficult if one has to shift gears and concentrate on driving.

redvett Senior Enthusiast

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I answered that the 98% of the buyers dont want a manual and if there is a manual transmission available your going to have to go to the very basic truck. Look for your self.

 

98% of current buyers do not want a manual transmission because of bumper to bumper traffic. Do you want to hold the clutch in for a couple of hours in traffic? Not me.

 

All I asked was a simple question whether or not manual transmissions were still available on new '08 trucks. I do not know where you got the 98% from but I bet there is plenty of people who do prefer a well designed manual transmission over an automatic one.

 

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I answered that the 98% of the buyers dont want a manual and if there is a manual transmission available your going to have to go to the very basic truck. Look for your self.

 

98% of current buyers do not want a manual transmission because of bumper to bumper traffic. Do you want to hold the clutch in for a couple of hours in traffic? Not me.

 

All I asked was a simple question whether or not manual transmissions were still available on new '08 trucks. I do not know where you got the 98% from but I bet there is plenty of people who do prefer a well designed manual transmission over an automatic one.

 

 

 

You are probably right, manual may still be optional on a very basic work truck. I was hoping someone would know for sure. I have been toying with the idea of getting a cheap work truck for a daily driver in addition to the truck I have. I would want to maximize my mileage, so that is why I asked about availability of a manual transmission. Oh well, there is always a Colorado compact pickup, and that one does come with a manual for sure.

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I'd have taken a manual if they still made em. Of course, the autos are necessary in stop and go traffic. On the other hand, I have 3 gripes about these transmissions:

 

1) it's quite annoying when the tranny shifts from 2nd to 1st and back again in a matter of 1/2 second from a rolling stop (I know, it wouldn't do this if I stopped completely at all stop signs).

2) do you really need 4000 rpms to get that extra 5 mph when passing on the freeway?

3) the extremely long delay when shifting from drive to reverse while backing up

 

Oh well, at least the tow/haul mode is an excellent feature.

pm26 Senior Enthusiast

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No manual transmission for the GMT900's.

Thanks Rich. That was the answer I was looking for. I did not mean to turn this thread into a manual vs automatic preference fight.

HawkeyeOC Senior Enthusiast

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This probably makes perfect sense from GMs point of view these days:

 

Manuals = tiny shrinking percentage of potential buyers = money loser?

XM = money comming in from subscriptions

OnStar = money coming in from subscriptions

 

I love manuals, but soon you will only be able to get them in sports cars in the US

pm26 Senior Enthusiast

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I love manuals, but soon you will only be able to get them in sports cars in the US

 

The way it is going, I believe you. It is hard to find even a small economy car with a manual these days.

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No manuals yet, they are saying sometime in 2009...maybe.

 

As a related note - 50% of all XM subscriptions that are actually active - are sitting on a dealers lot.

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