Hydrogen Gas

[GORDEN]

HAS ANYONE HAD ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THE HYRODGEN GAS THAT IS GOING LIKE WILD FIRE FOR BETTER GAS MILAGE

[Metro12]

Do you mean Nitrogen, thats being used to fill the tires?

[hubbycap]

Hydrogen is the fuel of the future, and it always will be.

[leepounds]

There are plenty of people with "do-it-yourself" hydrogen injection systems. You can find info on some of these with youtube. The "trick" is apparently tricking the oxygen sensors, as when hydrogen is injected into the intake and thereby ignited in the cylinder, it burns so fast, hot, and clean that the oxygen sensors think there is something wrong and force the engine into "limp" mode, forcing it to run rich (thereby defeating the purpose of the injection system to begin with). I have some mechanic friends that work at a local farm that are trying to put together a hydrogen injection system for the fleet of vehicles & farm equipment on the farm. Their idea is to install a sort of rheostat on the oxy sensors, as apparently a fault code is generated by sending a certain voltage to the computer. By regulating that voltage, they might be able to trick the oxy sensor into thinking there isn't any problem. There are companies, such as these guys that have been selling injection systems for semi-trucks for years, as a 20% improvement when you're only getting 4 miles to the gallon is a world of saving on fuel costs. They also make one that could be mounted in the bed of a pickup. One of the ONLY advantages to high oil prices is that innovation is less-stifled. Some of these advances in fuel-saving technology are pretty cool.

[asilverblazer]

Wonder if an O2 simulator like what you run when removing the cats would work.

[Zembonez]

HAS ANYONE HAD ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THE HYRODGEN GAS THAT IS GOING LIKE WILD FIRE FOR BETTER GAS MILAGE

Please take your all caps scam and go away.

[Draenor]

Wonder if an O2 simulator like what you run when removing the cats would work.

O2 simulator just trick the ECU in throwing a DTC. Your still doing harm to the motor, you just wont know.

[Nick The Great]

This seems to smell of

 

but wouldn't a have a link to buy said product?

 

[asilverblazer]

Wonder if an O2 simulator like what you run when removing the cats would work.

O2 simulator just trick the ECU in throwing a DTC. Your still doing harm to the motor, you just wont know.

 

 

Harming it in relation to this...

 

There are plenty of people with "do-it-yourself" hydrogen injection systems. You can find info on some of these with youtube. The "trick" is apparently tricking the oxygen sensors, as when hydrogen is injected into the intake and thereby ignited in the cylinder, it burns so fast, hot, and clean that the oxygen sensors think there is something wrong and force the engine into "limp" mode, forcing it to run rich (thereby defeating the purpose of the injection system to begin with). I have some mechanic friends that work at a local farm that are trying to put together a hydrogen injection system for the fleet of vehicles & farm equipment on the farm. Their idea is to install a sort of rheostat on the oxy sensors, as apparently a fault code is generated by sending a certain voltage to the computer. By regulating that voltage, they might be able to trick the oxy sensor into thinking there isn't any problem.

[Draenor]

I usually bridge a paperclip into flux capacitor. Works all the time.

[matt3]

I usually bridge a paperclip into flux capacitor. Works all the time.

 

 

You do that too

[Draenor]

This seems to smell of

 

but wouldn't a have a link to buy said product?

 

He's building up the suspense!!!

 

[Draenor]

Oh I use methane, not hydrogen. Its free and I make plenty of it.

 

 

 

 

I usually bridge a paperclip into flux capacitor. Works all the time.

 

 

You do that too

 

Works, don't it?

[tobias]

I put an electric fan in the back of my truck that blows onto a wind generator that powers my new electric wheel motors which, while turning, charge the batteries for the fan. It's brilliant, really.

[PainlessTexas]

You guys are too funny.... Daddy, you got the plans for that system? Will it fit in my short/short bed?

 

The idea of Hydrogen injection is interesting. You're right about the O2 sensors wanting to enrichen the mixture... IF these systems can generate enough O2 and H to make any appreciable difference you would need to reprogram the ECM to compensate for the O2 changes at the sensor. I just love all you guys who think you can just run down to Radio Shack and buy a 50 cent resistor and reprogram the system. You try that with your $30K truck. Think I'll try some real testing before I decide to jump headfirst. I've been discussing this with one of our engineers at Painless who designs our harnesses and has done a lot of the development of our ECM programming. The O2 enrichment factor is a big stumbling block to all this. But, it has been the subject of much discussion and debate here. We may yet put together something out of Mason jars and wire (kinda like you've seen in a Frankenstein movie) just to play with it on the dyno. But think about it..... If it really worked don't you think one of the many companies in the aftermarket would have already been building and selling them? The technology will be relatively cheap...

 

EFI IS rocket science.

 

Just an opinion.... and you know what they are like.