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What sets each brand's motors apart from the rest? design wise and such, pros and cons?

 

Vortec vs Magnum vs Triton?

 

Duramax vs Cummins vs Powerstroke

 

Hydromatic Vs (insert ford's brand) vs (insert dodge's brand)

 

allison vs (insert ford brand) vs (insert dodge brand)

jro909 Senior Enthusiast

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lol the cummins is a pretty capable motor from my experience...

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I am sure every one has its issues look at the afm on gm's. I haven't been a chrysler fan since the superbee. My dad used to be a ford guy and still is. He never had a problem he couldn't fix himself. But i am a loyal gm owner and the vortec hasn't given me any trouble.

ColoradoSkiCountry Senior Enthusiast

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There is alot of hype out there about the Alison being a good tranny because Alison's are used in Medium and Heavy duty trucks (not the 1500/2500/3500) But is it superior in our light duty (1500/2500/3500) to what Ford and Dodge has to offer? If so, why and how?

 

Same thing goes for the Cummins.. alot of hype out there just because Cummins builds bigger diesels for the big rigs. As for the light duty applications for our 3/4 & 1 ton trucks, it's a different story and different engine.

 

As for the Ford- given how they have a new diesel out, it waits to be seen how good of an engine/tranny combo it will be. Between the three in years past, I'd have to say that Ford had more problems with the engine and tranny as compared to Dodge and GM.

jro909 Senior Enthusiast

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i'm not meaning to come off as an ass but you guys haven't layed down any foundation for your statements lol i am a loyal GM fan but my god people must drive other brands for something, if every truck was the same i think we would be buying from a company called american motors

KMGZ400 Senior Enthusiast

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haha i was wondering the same thing...

 

i love my GM trucks but i dont think the 4L60 in my 2001 silverado is going to last... 66,000 miles, it shifts kinda rough and everyonce in a while bucks and the slip yoke thing is bad. i also am petal to the metal about 50% of my driving and i do burnouts and drift a lot so that might have something to do with it.

 

the 4L60 in my 2003 burban completely died at about 117k. NEVER floored or abused at all. replaced it with a brand new 4L60 and the performance is great.. shifts are perfect, no slip yoke shit, no random bucking.. love it.. idk how long it will stay like that but 117 wiht new tranny now has about 145k and itts still perfect.

 

i dont know any 4l60s that have gone over 130k without a problem... it wouldnt stop me from buying a GM truck though everything else is perfect... the GMT800 5.3's are probably the best engines reliability wise.. 2003 burban 145k not a SINGLE problem, no burning of anything, no ticking at all, same with my silverados 5.3... great great engine..

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my 5.3 will chatter if its been in the cold all night when started, or the occasional piston slap but whatever its been a damn good motor to me...i think all brand's trannys are flawed and the slip yok problem dosen't really bother me...

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you have to remember that a lot of the big 3 use the same transmissions in they're larger vehicles.

The ZF S6-650 was shared by Ford and Chevy.

Now Allison is not a GM Asset anymore...so its a matter of time before they are contracted by other manufacturers.

 

Than there's the Tremec T56 6-speed...used in just about every "sports car" longitudinal mounted engine in the world. With the Viper variant(and SRT-10 Truck) being the stoutest.

 

I think you just get settled into a brand that you buy and don't have issues with...than you stick with that brand. I don't think that any one manufacturer has better or worse vehicles than any other...except that ford and dodge both suck...and make Crap........... :lol::lol::D

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haha i was wondering the same thing...

 

i love my GM trucks but i dont think the 4L60 in my 2001 silverado is going to last... 66,000 miles, it shifts kinda rough and everyonce in a while bucks and the slip yoke thing is bad. i also am petal to the metal about 50% of my driving and i do burnouts and drift a lot so that might have something to do with it.

 

the 4L60 in my 2003 burban completely died at about 117k. NEVER floored or abused at all. replaced it with a brand new 4L60 and the performance is great.. shifts are perfect, no slip yoke shit, no random bucking.. love it.. idk how long it will stay like that but 117 wiht new tranny now has about 145k and itts still perfect.

 

i dont know any 4l60s that have gone over 130k without a problem... it wouldnt stop me from buying a GM truck though everything else is perfect... the GMT800 5.3's are probably the best engines reliability wise.. 2003 burban 145k not a SINGLE problem, no burning of anything, no ticking at all, same with my silverados 5.3... great great engine..

My 4L60E went 189k...then shelled out righhhht NOW! Shifted fine then all of a sudden "oh shit, what's that noise" and she wouldn't budge.

IMO 350 is more reliable by 5.3s and 6.0s. There's a reason why there's a crap ton on the road, and they're dirt cheap. 6.0s are just as reliable as 5.3s thouhg, they're the same engine bored out.

 

To the topic at hand, if i could get a Ford frame (better steel), a Cummins diesel, hooked to an Allison tranny, i'd have a damn near perfect truck. But i do like Dirtymax's almost as much. Powerjokes suck.

jro909 Senior Enthusiast

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powerstrokes do suck, never heard anything good about them...loyalists buy a ford and want a diesel and expect the powerstroke to be awsome...i'm a duramax fan myself but the cummins is a superb engine also...i hear alot of chatter about pushrod vs roller cam gas engines? whats the deal?

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I like the Vortec engines because they are the pushrod style. Simple setup and easy to work on.

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