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Yeah I'm pretty new to all this stuff so I don't have any set opinions yet. I have read the WOT thing before. Every time I run into some thread with a huge argument in it - its always over fuel saving with a CAI.

 

Kinda bums me out because when I got my truck I wanted to try out a few mods sooo bad. Then after I do a little research I inevitably find out that mod after mod the benefits may not be worth the effort. I wanted to wake up my 5.3L engine so I thought - CAI, after market exhaust system, and tuning programmer.

 

1. Programmer can lead to a voided out warranty from what I read, and my dealership confirmed it. (I know about the warranty act thing,but you have to sue)

2. CAI's can improve power but only at WOT, and hopefully you don't experience a loss in mpg or some other adverse thing. (dirty or disturbed maf)

3. After market exhausts may rob you of torque and can cause an annoying drone sound in the cab, or just may sound terrible when AFM kicks in.

4. Throttle body spacer - From what I read are a hold over mod from TBI engines that isn't even relevant on mine.

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manther asked, "Cool, so hows this one sound when going into 4? "

 

Well, both Harvey and I will tell you that 4-cylinder operation is hardly noticeable at all. A worthy mod to any '09 and newer exhaust system.

 

 

Cool just saw this post. Maybe there is one mod I can do that is a no brainer.

dlstewart01 Senior Enthusiast

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Yeah I'm pretty new to all this stuff so I don't have any set opinions yet. I have read the WOT thing before. Every time I run into some thread with a huge argument in it - its always over fuel saving with a CAI.

 

Kinda bums me out because when I got my truck I wanted to try out a few mods sooo bad. Then after I do a little research I inevitably find out that mod after mod the benefits may not be worth the effort. I wanted to wake up my 5.3L engine so I thought - CAI, after market exhaust system, and tuning programmer.

 

1. Programmer can lead to a voided out warranty from what I read, and my dealership confirmed it. (I know about the warranty act thing,but you have to sue)

2. CAI's can improve power but only at WOT, and hopefully you don't experience a loss in mpg or some other adverse thing. (dirty or disturbed maf)

3. After market exhausts may rob you of torque and can cause an annoying drone sound in the cab, or just may sound terrible when AFM kicks in.

4. Throttle body spacer - From what I read are a holder mod from TBI engines that isn't even relevant on mine.

 

 

Marketing, thats what it is about. These people want your money and they say what you want to hear. Then people buy these proformance products and want them to work so bad they start watching every little thing and if your are careful fuel mileage may increase. but..there are so many things that affect fuel mileage it can be different every day in the week. thats why you have to monitor it over a long period of time and get a realistic average. I know I'm not much fun.

 

A tune is the best bang for the buck but remember you pays your money and you takes your chances.. :confused:

mtsusa Enthusiast

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As far as your exhaust goes, make sure you get a straight through design...magnaflow, dynmoax, borla, etc. Though actual differences in power are small, you will notice improvements in driveability...and a sweet sound. I have a 14" magnaflow, single in/out with stock tailpipe and it sounds good...4 cyl mode doesn't really sound like much of anything. At those speeds, RPMs will be low so you won't really hear too much of the exhaust.

 

Performance tunes are the best bang for your buck though...I'm getting a blackbear tune and the autocal so I can revert back to stock for trips to the dealer. Yes, it's more expensive than a handheld but a handheld can't touch the torque management in these transmissions.

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As far as your exhaust goes, make sure you get a straight through design...magnaflow, dynmoax, borla, etc. Though actual differences in power are small, you will notice improvements in driveability...and a sweet sound. I have a 14" magnaflow, single in/out with stock tailpipe and it sounds good...4 cyl mode doesn't really sound like much of anything. At those speeds, RPMs will be low so you won't really hear too much of the exhaust.

 

Performance tunes are the best bang for your buck though...I'm getting a blackbear tune and the autocal so I can revert back to stock for trips to the dealer. Yes, it's more expensive than a handheld but a handheld can't touch the torque management in these transmissions.

 

 

I've never read that anyone was able to actually erase their traces of an aftermarket tune. Has someone figured out how now? Is black bear associated with that jennabear member?

dlstewart01 Senior Enthusiast

dlstewart01

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As far as your exhaust goes, make sure you get a straight through design...magnaflow, dynmoax, borla, etc. Though actual differences in power are small, you will notice improvements in driveability...and a sweet sound. I have a 14" magnaflow, single in/out with stock tailpipe and it sounds good...4 cyl mode doesn't really sound like much of anything. At those speeds, RPMs will be low so you won't really hear too much of the exhaust.

 

Performance tunes are the best bang for your buck though...I'm getting a blackbear tune and the autocal so I can revert back to stock for trips to the dealer. Yes, it's more expensive than a handheld but a handheld can't touch the torque management in these transmissions.

 

 

I've never read that anyone was able to actually erase their traces of an aftermarket tune. Has someone figured out how now? Is black bear associated with that jennabear member?

 

 

Thats his wife...and they say they can do it...

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BigBlueLB756 Senior Enthusiast

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You never can accuse me of running off with something too fast. I FINALLY got around to ordering that MIT after extensive research and letting the "wife spent how much at Kohl's" fund build up to the point I had an excess of "blow money" credits. We'll see if it does anything when it finally gets here.

 

1 chicken, 2 chickens, 3 chickens..................

BigBlueLB756 Senior Enthusiast

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An AFE Pro Dry S air filter element, an Airaid MIT, and a DynaMax cat-back exhaust.....I'd call it EXCELLENT!

mxdirtrider56 Enthusiast

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You never can accuse me of running off with something too fast. I FINALLY got around to ordering that MIT after extensive research and letting the "wife spent how much at Kohl's" fund build up to the point I had an excess of "blow money" credits. We'll see if it does anything when it finally gets here.

 

1 chicken, 2 chickens, 3 chickens..................

 

Classic.

BigBlueLB756 Senior Enthusiast

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You got to play by the "rules" or you'll never get anything you want.

 

Always remember, "If MAMA ain't happy, NOBODY'S happy".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If Papa ain't happy, NOBODY cares.

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pdeangel New Member

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I guess I am reviving this-

 

I've read this entire thread. Most of the discussion seems to be along the lines of MPG and performance. A lot of the answers seem to be- get a tune.

 

I have a 2012 GMC Sierra with an MBRP Catback. I love my catback. Since, from what I can gather, going with an MIT or an entire kit makes performance/mpg gains pretty negligible, what will deliver the best sound? Will the entire system sound better? Or is most of the sound gains delivered from the MIT since there is no resonating material inside the tube?

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