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I started my 96 Chevrolet pickup with 105,000 miles and as I was driving around the block I noticed my check Gage's light was on and then seen I had zero pressure in oil so came back home and parked the truck.. I was in process of going to store for gasoline to now my grass. As I was mowing grass I could see some oil puddles below truck. So I check the dipstick. Still has all the oil in truck. Now I am just wondering how to troubleshoot the truck? Can I start it and see if the oil pressure is true and if it is zero would the truck knock from not getting any oil circulation? Also not sure if its coincidence the oil leaking but seems to be around the distributercap area because I can see it running down the outside of tranny dipstick.. Anyway. Any ideas? Oil sensor switch or oil pump? Anyway to test switch or cheap enough to just replace?

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The oil you see by the distributor and running down the side of the transmission is likely from the oil pressure sending unit as they are located very close to that area at the back of the block near the distributor. The sending unit may not be screwed in tightly and is allowing some oil to leak, but this shouldn't cause zero oil pressure unless it's completely fallen out or is ready to do so.

 

It's highly unusual that it would have oil pressure one day and not the next. If it does not have oil pressure you don't want to allow it to run very long as yes, things will start knocking and ticking in a hurry and engine damage will ensue shortly thereafter. While you're testing a few things I will outline here, I wouldn't allow it to run much longer than about 10 seconds until you can determine whether it's circulating oil or not. I'd start out by checking the wire going to the oil pressure sending unit and see if it has just perhaps lost it's connection and is giving a false reading at the dash. I'd also ensure the sending unit it screwed in tightly. If you don't find anything unusual with the wire or sending unit, and a short restart (again maybe 10 seconds total running time) results in the same, the next thing I'd probably try just to verify whether or not the oil pump is working and is circulating oil would be to remove one of the valve covers, whichever is easiest to remove. Then briefly start the truck and run it again for maybe 10 seconds tops. If it has oil pressure you should have oil squirting all over the place with the valve cover removed and at a minimum a considerable amount oil running down the exhaust side of the head, it's pretty easy to determine just by observing for a few seconds. If you have oil flowing it would indicate a faulty oil pressure sending unit or a bad connection to it. If you don't see any oil squirting out of the pushrod cup holes on the top part of the rocker arms, shut it down ASAP as you've definitely got problems. At that point which indicates no oil pressure I'd suspect maybe the shaft driving the oil pump has either sheared off or maybe the pick-up tube going to the oil pump has fallen off and is laying in the bottom of the oil pan which is pretty much going to require the engine has to come out to repair properly as on small block Chevys you can't just drop the oil pan in the vehicle without removing the timing chain cover as well. At a minimum if you attempt to do it in the vehicle it's a royal pain unless someone else here knows of a trick.

 

Good luck

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