Snow Pics!!

EXSlider400 · March 5, 2015

Let me tell you... "hill decent" down a long and kinda steep icy downhill curve..... other 4x4 in ditch cause speeds increased... Z71 (and a few 50 pound bags of dog food in the bed) did great! BTW...that is close to 1/2 an inch of ice on the pavement in the pic. But I do have a set of Glacier H2828SC V-bar chains just in case. Here is a pic of them on the Red truck.

Star1018 · October 7, 2015

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how do you like the ko2s my trucks going in to get plow mounts and wiring done and my plow on my truck soon and im thinking the stock wrangler all terrains wont do to great in the snow as they don't seem aggressive at all seem more like highway tires and I would love to do the ko2s

fuse36 · October 7, 2015

how do you like the ko2s my trucks going in to get plow mounts and wiring done and my plow on my truck soon and im thinking the stock wrangler all terrains wont do to great in the snow as they don't seem aggressive at all seem more like highway tires and I would love to do the ko2s

dont have them anymore it's a long story. Here's mine now. Nitto terra grappler g2. But the ko2s were awesome. Quiet but tough looking.

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crushNchowda · October 7, 2015

how do you like the ko2s my trucks going in to get plow mounts and wiring done and my plow on my truck soon and im thinking the stock wrangler all terrains wont do to great in the snow as they don't seem aggressive at all seem more like highway tires and I would love to do the ko2s

The mud/all-terrain tires may be a little better than "all season" SUV type tires in the snow, but nothings better than dedicated snow tires - a big reason being the siping and super soft rubber compound.

I've said before on the forum(s) - if you can afford the one time expense of a dedicated snow setup you'll be better off in the long run and keep the "aggressive tread' design on your AT type tires staying aggressive and lasting longer.

IMO the winter performance advantage of good snow tires vs. non-dedicated all seasons or all terrains is @ least equal to, if not greater than, the winter performance advantage of 4x4 over 2WD

Star1018 · October 7, 2015

The mud/all-terrain tires may be a little better than "all season" SUV type tires in the snow, but nothings better than dedicated snow tires - a big reason being the siping and super soft rubber compound.

I've said before on the forum(s) - if you can afford the one time expense of a dedicated snow setup you'll be better off in the long run and keep the "aggressive tread' design on your AT type tires staying aggressive and lasting longer.

IMO the winter performance advantage of good snow tires vs. non-dedicated all seasons or all terrains is @ least equal to, if not greater than, the winter performance advantage of 4x4 over 2WD

Yeah I know what you mean just don't feel like trying to buy another set of wheels for my truck and keep switching them every winter I had cooper discoverer at3s on my last truck and thought they sucked in the winter and they did not last long when my truck got totaled the tread was pretty low on them and they did not grab good on the ice I want something more aggressive for plowing was thinking the bfgs since they are like an all terrain tire don't want the humming mud tires since I do commute to school 2 days a week

SMiller · October 8, 2015

Yeah I know what you mean just don't feel like trying to buy another set of wheels for my truck and keep switching them every winter I had cooper discoverer at3s on my last truck and thought they sucked in the winter and they did not last long when my truck got totaled the tread was pretty low on them and they did not grab good on the ice I want something more aggressive for plowing was thinking the bfgs since they are like an all terrain tire don't want the humming mud tires since I do commute to school 2 days a week

Depends on where you live, if I lived in northern MI, MN, or WI then I would consider snow tires but here in IN it is 50* and sunny one day and snow the next, we might go a month without snow making a aggressive A/T tire the way to go.

crushNchowda · October 8, 2015

Depends on where you live, if I lived in northern MI, MN, or WI then I would consider snow tires but here in IN it is 50* and sunny one day and snow the next, we might go a month without snow making a aggressive A/T tire the way to go.

Yeah but OP is in CT and I'm in MA - while CT usually has milder winters, it is still New England.

As I said, I know the initial hit for the winter setup seems painful, look at it this way though - you could take off the wrangler SRA-s and sell them for whatever you can get (if there's any tread) putting the $$$ to the side during the winter while you search for a good deal on aggressive AT's for the stock rims if you run a winter setup. I cannot emphasize how significant a difference it is and how much more confidence you have in winter conditions when running snow tires vs. anything else. Most of the time people don't consider it - but you're plowing to make $$$ and/or "do it right" and want to do it quickly and safely/efficiently etc. right? Well, saying you wanna find a "do it all" tire rather than installing snows is no different than a guy racing his car for pinks or for $$$ and figuring high performance summer tires or "all seasons lol" will be fine in place of DR's or slicks - you can imagine the difference between rubber in that scenario

I am not exaggerating when I say the difference is the same running snows - sure you can get going and stop OK w/ BFG's and 4x4, but the handling/turning/tight radius maneuvering/stopping improvement w/ snow tires is insane vs. anything else.

6" of snow/slush on the highway, in a snow storm, returning home from Loon Mountain in NH I was passing plows @ 60 mph in 4wd hi - the confidence comes in the VASTLY improved stopping and maneuvering ability, I'm talking cutting stopping distances literally in half and then some compared to a non-winter tire.

I attached some pics of my Sierra in the winter & the driving conditions - one of my favorite activities is driving around in this weather in 4x4 hi literally w/ ZERO change to my driving habit since the truck nearly behaves as if it were on dry pavement w/ the snow tires, full tank, and a little weight in the back. I like to give a little wave & honk to the plow trucks embedded in the snow banks on their balding "all terrain" tires, as well as the numerous luxury cars w/ AWD and "all seasons" stuck in ditches on the highways...I keep recovery hooks/straps to pull people out (4 times last year) when I'm feeling nice. Sorry to sound smug....but as I'm trying to emphasize, it makes that big a difference.

I almost feel like the "snow tire myth/stigma" is similar to how short throw shifters on performance cars and custom tunes on ANY vehicle are interpreted - alot of times people either A) don't want to believe that these "mods" make as big an improvement as people claim b/c it seems to good to be true, B) they think the expense is too high yet the overall improvement certainly warrants it.

Lastly - you can see from the pics the neighborhood I live in is a nice suburb, I'd hate to think what the outcome would be if I needed to stomp on the brakes to avoid some kids who jumped into the road playing or sledding w/ "all seasons" or "all terrains" vs. the snows that I run...food for thought (the roads were already "plowed" snow never leaves)

Rock1500 · October 9, 2015

Yeah but OP is in CT and I'm in MA - while CT usually has milder winters, it is still New England.

As I said, I know the initial hit for the winter setup seems painful, look at it this way though - you could take off the wrangler SRA-s and sell them for whatever you can get (if there's any tread) putting the $$$ to the side during the winter while you search for a good deal on aggressive AT's for the stock rims if you run a winter setup. I cannot emphasize how significant a difference it is and how much more confidence you have in winter conditions when running snow tires vs. anything else. Most of the time people don't consider it - but you're plowing to make $$$ and/or "do it right" and want to do it quickly and safely/efficiently etc. right? Well, saying you wanna find a "do it all" tire rather than installing snows is no different than a guy racing his car for pinks or for $$$ and figuring high performance summer tires or "all seasons lol" will be fine in place of DR's or slicks - you can imagine the difference between rubber in that scenario

I am not exaggerating when I say the difference is the same running snows - sure you can get going and stop OK w/ BFG's and 4x4, but the handling/turning/tight radius maneuvering/stopping improvement w/ snow tires is insane vs. anything else.

6" of snow/slush on the highway, in a snow storm, returning home from Loon Mountain in NH I was passing plows @ 60 mph in 4wd hi - the confidence comes in the VASTLY improved stopping and maneuvering ability, I'm talking cutting stopping distances literally in half and then some compared to a non-winter tire.

I attached some pics of my Sierra in the winter & the driving conditions - one of my favorite activities is driving around in this weather in 4x4 hi literally w/ ZERO change to my driving habit since the truck nearly behaves as if it were on dry pavement w/ the snow tires, full tank, and a little weight in the back. I like to give a little wave & honk to the plow trucks embedded in the snow banks on their balding "all terrain" tires, as well as the numerous luxury cars w/ AWD and "all seasons" stuck in ditches on the highways...I keep recovery hooks/straps to pull people out (4 times last year) when I'm feeling nice. Sorry to sound smug....but as I'm trying to emphasize, it makes that big a difference.

I almost feel like the "snow tire myth/stigma" is similar to how short throw shifters on performance cars and custom tunes on ANY vehicle are interpreted - alot of times people either A) don't want to believe that these "mods" make as big an improvement as people claim b/c it seems to good to be true, B) they think the expense is too high yet the overall improvement certainly warrants it.

Lastly - you can see from the pics the neighborhood I live in is a nice suburb, I'd hate to think what the outcome would be if I needed to stomp on the brakes to avoid some kids who jumped into the road playing or sledding w/ "all seasons" or "all terrains" vs. the snows that I run...food for thought (the roads were already "plowed" snow never leaves)

How just did the snow tires run?

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crushNchowda · October 9, 2015

How just did the snow tires run?

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Not sure i understand what you're asking? How much did the snow tires cost or how does the truck drive w/ just snows no 4wd?

The setup I have Michelin snows 275/55/20 on granite alloy rims was like $1500 all together balanced and shipped my door.

Most of the time you don't even need 4wd on when running snows - but 4wd + snow tires = beast mode

Rock1500 · October 9, 2015

Not sure i understand what you're asking? How much did the snow tires cost or how does the truck drive w/ just snows no 4wd?

The setup I have Michelin snows 275/55/20 on granite alloy rims was like $1500 all together balanced and shipped my door.

Most of the time you don't even need 4wd on when running snows - but 4wd + snow tires = beast mode

Sorry was typing in a hurry. I meant to say how much did they cost. Which you answered.

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Star1018 · October 12, 2015

Yeah but OP is in CT and I'm in MA - while CT usually has milder winters, it is still New England.

As I said, I know the initial hit for the winter setup seems painful, look at it this way though - you could take off the wrangler SRA-s and sell them for whatever you can get (if there's any tread) putting the $$$ to the side during the winter while you search for a good deal on aggressive AT's for the stock rims if you run a winter setup. I cannot emphasize how significant a difference it is and how much more confidence you have in winter conditions when running snow tires vs. anything else. Most of the time people don't consider it - but you're plowing to make $$$ and/or "do it right" and want to do it quickly and safely/efficiently etc. right? Well, saying you wanna find a "do it all" tire rather than installing snows is no different than a guy racing his car for pinks or for $$$ and figuring high performance summer tires or "all seasons lol" will be fine in place of DR's or slicks - you can imagine the difference between rubber in that scenario

I am not exaggerating when I say the difference is the same running snows - sure you can get going and stop OK w/ BFG's and 4x4, but the handling/turning/tight radius maneuvering/stopping improvement w/ snow tires is insane vs. anything else.

6" of snow/slush on the highway, in a snow storm, returning home from Loon Mountain in NH I was passing plows @ 60 mph in 4wd hi - the confidence comes in the VASTLY improved stopping and maneuvering ability, I'm talking cutting stopping distances literally in half and then some compared to a non-winter tire.

I attached some pics of my Sierra in the winter & the driving conditions - one of my favorite activities is driving around in this weather in 4x4 hi literally w/ ZERO change to my driving habit since the truck nearly behaves as if it were on dry pavement w/ the snow tires, full tank, and a little weight in the back. I like to give a little wave & honk to the plow trucks embedded in the snow banks on their balding "all terrain" tires, as well as the numerous luxury cars w/ AWD and "all seasons" stuck in ditches on the highways...I keep recovery hooks/straps to pull people out (4 times last year) when I'm feeling nice. Sorry to sound smug....but as I'm trying to emphasize, it makes that big a difference.

I almost feel like the "snow tire myth/stigma" is similar to how short throw shifters on performance cars and custom tunes on ANY vehicle are interpreted - alot of times people either A) don't want to believe that these "mods" make as big an improvement as people claim b/c it seems to good to be true, B) they think the expense is too high yet the overall improvement certainly warrants it.

Lastly - you can see from the pics the neighborhood I live in is a nice suburb, I'd hate to think what the outcome would be if I needed to stomp on the brakes to avoid some kids who jumped into the road playing or sledding w/ "all seasons" or "all terrains" vs. the snows that I run...food for thought (the roads were already "plowed" snow never leaves)

Yeah I understand what you mean its just a matter of finding some wheels for a second set of tires not trying to spend all kinds of money on two sets of tires and wheels but who knows maybe find some wheels for cheap then go buy a set of winter tires I had nexens on my f150 7700 which was the 7 lug set up and those things were amazing in the snow

Kerrslight · October 15, 2015

Here's a couple:

While I use 4WD Auto tons in mixed conditions on the highway, you're really better off in 4Hi in deep snow on roads and especially off. In fact, if it's deep offroad I find 4Lo works best, completely eliminating traction control and stabilitrac interference, etc.