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I’ve started looking around for mavericks. Surprisingly I can find xlts at MSRP around 25K. That’s only on the radar if I sell my truck too. I usually check my comparison apps to see whats in the price range, not necessarily for their reviews. A little more money can bring in many competitors. Then there’s test driving. I’ve thought about a two year lease. If I like it then I could buy it. Unfortunately higher interest rates probably preclude that. I’ll probably do cash this time. Unfortunately the strike will mess everything up again. I’m not in a hurry anyway.

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I hear ya. I still like a little driving engagement these days. Doesn’t need to be at TRX or 442 levels but I try not to buy anything too boring. Because I know I won’t keep something like that very l

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Here’s 76k mile factory MT oil. “Lubed for life” they are supposed to be. I was really surprised how dark it was. Photo exaggerates it a little but not much. Yikes. Went with ~2 quarts Red Line M

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Amazes me how people just don't care, experienced the same with house's.    If you have money I get it.

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45 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

I’ve started looking around for mavericks. Surprisingly I can find xlts at MSRP around 25K. That’s only on the radar if I sell my truck too. I usually check my comparison apps to see whats in the price range, not necessarily for their reviews. A little more money can bring in many competitors. Then there’s test driving. I’ve thought about a two year lease. If I like it then I could buy it. Unfortunately higher interest rates probably preclude that. I’ll probably do cash this time. Unfortunately the strike will mess everything up again. I’m not in a hurry anyway.

Good thing you’re a Texas guy because as I see it, the Maverick really only makes sense in its most basic FWD form. Otherwise you’re spending way too much on a truck that isn’t very capable or economical. Just adding AWD to a base Maverick pushes the price to nearly 28k. It also forces you into the Ecoboost and the fuel economy drops into the abyss. A hard pill to swallow considering I bought a brand new Sierra SLE 4x4 5.3 for 26k just 7 years ago.
 

Ford is well aware of their hot hand and I know we all pay more for less these days, but I’d hate to be reminded of that every time I look at my driveway.

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37 minutes ago, OnTheReel said:

Good thing you’re a Texas guy because as I see it, the Maverick really only makes sense in its most basic FWD form. Otherwise you’re spending way too much on a truck that isn’t very capable or economical. Just adding AWD to a base Maverick pushes the price to nearly 28k. It also forces you into the Ecoboost and the fuel economy drops into the abyss. A hard pill to swallow considering I bought a brand new Sierra SLE 4x4 5.3 for 26k just 7 years ago.
 

Ford is well aware of their hot hand and I know we all pay more for less these days, but I’d hate to be reminded of that every time I look at my driveway.

I don’t see many people using trucks as trucks. I did for 40 years for work. I never used one as a family hauler. My wife got to drive the performance cars. I was so jealous. I did performance mods because they were so slow. Now because people made them mall crawlers the prices are ridiculous. An amusing day is watching women and kids trying to get in and out of trucks at the grocery store. Meanwhile at retirement my 6K avalanche has served me for 4years. I’m well off in retirement. I can’t spend 50K for truck that can’t hold a candle to a 35K car. Not just for cruising. I may hate the feel of the maverick, I haven’t driven one. But if I do it will replace two vehicles. My trip vehicle and my truck. So a fully loaded one comes in under 30K. That’s a bargain. Otherwise it’s a fully loaded car and my avalanche stays around. Way under a reasonable equipped hard to park, not so easy to get into truck. I drove trucks for 50 years, love driving them. Not really practical for most people. I’m not vain enough to spend 50K on a personal vehicle to drive 20 miles a day. My 6K avalanche fits the bill. The minivan fits the tip vehicle slot. The maverick can do both. The jury is still out.

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9 hours ago, OnTheReel said:

Looks like the Versa has MPFI. Unfortunately no AWD and still a bit small for my needs, but definitely bigger than the Mirage and probably better to drive too.
 

I can’t imagine the Mitsu’s 3 cylinder and a CVT being a very pleasant drive but it’s sort of the Geo Metro reincarnate and kind of endearing for that reason.

 

My dream car when in grade school was a VW Bettle. 36 snorting hp. :crackup:Delivery of papers. You do remember newspapers, right?    Winter in Iowa was fun. 

 

I lost my Crow gene years ago. "SHINNY". Doesn't have to be shiny or even fun. Reliable. Economical yes, Fun, meh. I had Mustangs and Corvettes. 

 

I find the Mirage....let's say...interesting. :) I'd like to know what all that review hate is about. 

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My dream car when in grade school was a VW Bettle. 36 snorting hp. :crackup:Delivery of papers. You do remember newspapers, right?    Winter in Iowa was fun. 

 

I lost my Crow gene years ago. "SHINNY". Doesn't have to be shiny or even fun. Reliable. Economical yes, Fun, meh. I had Mustangs and Corvettes. 

 

I find the Mirage....let's say...interesting. :) I'd like to know what all that review hate is about. 

I hear ya. I still like a little driving engagement these days. Doesn’t need to be at TRX or 442 levels but I try not to buy anything too boring. Because I know I won’t keep something like that very long and my wife will get pissed at me playing musical cars again.
 

At any rate…the Jeep I looked at today is a keeper and followed me home. Maybe you can’t always go by appearances alone but the one that looked horrible also drove horribly compared to this one. No coincidence, I’m sure.
 

This one starts faster, rides better, clutch feels smoother, and just runs like a new car should. It’s actually unbelievable how different two vehicles of basically identical make, model, age and mileage can be. 
 

Everything clean, tidy and in order. Inside, outside and underneath. Came with records of oil changes every 4 to 5,000 miles and a nice fresh set of Michelins. It’s your typical “old man owned car” and that’s what I was looking for.IMG_7299.thumb.jpeg.3012953a96a5de556c7587a939f554d9.jpegIMG_7298.thumb.jpeg.525ef3846826da9b3fddddb640c314d6.jpegIMG_7295.thumb.jpeg.33f7180ff790bf82cb41b68517da1197.jpegIMG_7302.thumb.jpeg.0c3e7f2f4af4f9f271a5bb5700fe41ff.jpeg

I’ve driven it a bunch already today and can’t come up with anything to fault it on.

 

It does NOT seem to need them but I have NGK ruthenium plugs to install, and HPL EC to run through it with cheap Farm and Fleet synthetic. After that I’ll bring it onto my normal maintenance / oil change regimen. HPL Premium Plus and Fram Ultra should work well. Would like to do Red Line in the trans and diff before winter but I would also like my wallet to recover ASAP! Wasn’t gonna finance something like this in the current environment so I have to cool it a bit now and get back to work! 😆

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31 minutes ago, OnTheReel said:

I hear ya. I still like a little driving engagement these days. Doesn’t need to be at TRX or 442 levels but I try not to buy anything too boring. Because I know I won’t keep something like that very long and my wife will get pissed at me playing musical cars again.
 

At any rate…the Jeep I looked at today is a keeper and followed me home. Maybe you can’t always go by appearances alone but the one that looked horrible also drove horribly compared to this one. No coincidence, I’m sure.
 

This one starts faster, rides better, clutch feels smoother, and just runs like a new car should. It’s actually unbelievable how different two vehicles of basically identical make, model, age and mileage can be. 
 

Everything clean, tidy and in order. Inside, outside and underneath. Came with records of oil changes every 4 to 5,000 miles and a nice fresh set of Michelins. It’s your typical “old man owned car” and that’s what I was looking for.IMG_7299.thumb.jpeg.3012953a96a5de556c7587a939f554d9.jpegIMG_7298.thumb.jpeg.525ef3846826da9b3fddddb640c314d6.jpegIMG_7295.thumb.jpeg.33f7180ff790bf82cb41b68517da1197.jpegIMG_7302.thumb.jpeg.0c3e7f2f4af4f9f271a5bb5700fe41ff.jpeg

I’ve driven it a bunch already today and can’t come up with anything to fault it on.

 

It does NOT seem to need them but I have NGK ruthenium plugs to install, and HPL EC to run through it with cheap Farm and Fleet synthetic. After that I’ll bring it onto my normal maintenance / oil change regimen. HPL Premium Plus and Fram Ultra should work well. Would like to do Red Line in the trans and diff before winter but I would also like my wallet to recover ASAP! Wasn’t gonna finance something like this in the current environment so I have to cool it a bit now and get back to work! 😆

I still managed to have a different one every two years. The last two are Hondas. The CRV was my mother in law who quit driving. After Two years I switched with my daughter who had the odyssey. I drive 12K miles a year retired spread between three vehicles. Two of our 4 vehicles are performance cars. I don’t need the trip vehicle to be one. I don’t do slow though. The odyssey isn’t bad in that regard plus gets good fuel mileage. The maverick is actually pretty quick. My problem with the Honda is road noise. The odyssey is worse than the CRV. I paid extra for quiet tires, not much help. I may do more research on sound deadening. I got some test driving to do. Getting into a new ride after selling the odyssey if it’s a mini truck, selling the avalanche. Wouldn’t take much additional cash. And it would be new. 

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Congratulations, OnTheReel!  Great looking ride!  The extra pedal would be a huge draw for me but would be vetoed by my CFO.   I'm holding out for a Maverick EV 4X4 or reasonable facsimile before my next purchase.   I am hoping that, "Patience will have me eating ripe fruit".  A year or two ago I got excited if I spotted a F150 Lightening.  Now my local Ford dealer has a few to choose from on their lot and even one in their used section.   However,  I consider these to be the high "fuel" users of the EV world.  Economy matters.  Of course, as time passes, the justification for any truck in my driveway is also weakening.   My other problem with buying now is it will reduce the need for car shopping!  Yesterday I was parked next to a VW ID.4 AWD (EV).  I told Mrs. Donstar about it and if she gave the nod I would've headed straight for the VW Dealership a few blocks away!

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First car was a 61 Bug, yep 36 HP. A repeat, sorry. Bought the car from my dad with a blown motor, threw a rod and put a hole in the block for $50. Rebuilt it with a junk yard block.

Froze my butt off in that car.

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51 minutes ago, diyer2 said:

First car was a 61 Bug, yep 36 HP. A repeat, sorry. Bought the car from my dad with a blown motor, threw a rod and put a hole in the block for $50. Rebuilt it with a junk yard block.

Froze my butt off in that car.

 

Heater delete.

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Congratulations, OnTheReel!  Great looking ride!  The extra pedal would be a huge draw for me but would be vetoed by my CFO.   I'm holding out for a Maverick EV 4X4 or reasonable facsimile before my next purchase.   I am hoping that, "Patience will have me eating ripe fruit".  A year or two ago I got excited if I spotted a F150 Lightening.  Now my local Ford dealer has a few to choose from on their lot and even one in their used section.   However,  I consider these to be the high "fuel" users of the EV world.  Economy matters.  Of course, as time passes, the justification for any truck in my driveway is also weakening.   My other problem with buying now is it will reduce the need for car shopping!  Yesterday I was parked next to a VW ID.4 AWD (EV).  I told Mrs. Donstar about it and if she gave the nod I would've headed straight for the VW Dealership a few blocks away!

 

Yea, there is that. It's a hobby more fun when there is a mild need or a least a want. Something Mrs. Bear and I are fond of doing on Sundays when the lots are closed. 

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My situation is different. My wife has had her Genesis since 2011, it’s a great car. She says it’s her last. It’s definitely possible if it’s just used in town. I’m perfectly happy with my truck, I could stumble on another clean one and upgrade. She has a hard time getting in and out of it. At 22 years old I didn’t buy it for a trip vehicle. That’s why my budget stays low for a trip vehicle under 30K. Probably under 25K. If the wife would upgrade problem solved, ain’t happening. I also have a phobia of a trip vehicle over 150K miles or 3 years old. Unreasonable probably. That and the noisy Honda it’s a slow hatred for the vehicle. I got a trip coming in three weeks. It will be 2500 miles of dread. I just can’t help it. I feel so stupid. I can’t live this way. Where are my matches. I may be kidding, just a little.😳

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15 hours ago, Grumpy Bear said:

 

My dream car when in grade school was a VW Bettle. 36 snorting hp. :crackup:Delivery of papers. You do remember newspapers, right?    Winter in Iowa was fun. 

 

I lost my Crow gene years ago. "SHINNY". Doesn't have to be shiny or even fun. Reliable. Economical yes, Fun, meh. I had Mustangs and Corvettes. 

 

I find the Mirage....let's say...interesting. :) I'd like to know what all that review hate is about. 

I had a 61 in 1976 as a work vehicle. 60 mph going downhill. We had a rainout. Loaded with 4 people we hit the highway for trip to Coney Island. I knew nothing about air cooled engines. They suggested drafting a tractor trailer to get more speed. After awhile two little lights came on. The guys in the back said just ignore that no problem. Then we started losing speed. Lock up happen then it broke loose and knocking. It made it back knocking at 45 MPH. I learned a good lesson. Those guys who worked for my father didn’t have my best interests in mind. I was the son of the man. Even though I worked alongside them every day. Lesson learned.

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2500 miles in CRV?

I know how bad the road noise was in our 19 CRV.

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52 minutes ago, diyer2 said:

2500 miles in CRV?

I know how bad the road noise was in our 19 CRV.

The CRV was bad. The odyssey is worse. Bigger greenhouse. That’s why I never bought a Honda. The CRV was the mother in law’s. I traded for the odyssey with my daughter. I like them both until you hit certain roads. About 1/2 the trip are those noisy roads. I’m ordering earphones for the trip. 

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I had a 61 in 1976 as a work vehicle. 60 mph going downhill. We had a rainout. Loaded with 4 people we hit the highway for trip to Coney Island. I knew nothing about air cooled engines. They suggested drafting a tractor trailer to get more speed. After awhile two little lights came on. The guys in the back said just ignore that no problem. Then we started losing speed. Lock up happen then it broke loose and knocking. It made it back knocking at 45 MPH. I learned a good lesson. Those guys who worked for my father didn’t have my best interests in mind. I was the son of the man. Even though I worked alongside them every day. Lesson learned.

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In May 1934, at a meeting at Berlin's Kaiserhof Hotel, Hitler insisted on a basic vehicle that could transport two adults and three children at 100 km/h (62 mph) while not using more than 7 litres of fuel per 100 km (32 mpg US/39 mpg UK).[16] The engine had to be powerful enough for sustained cruising on Germany's Autobahnen. Everything had to be designed to ensure parts could be quickly and inexpensively exchanged. The engine had to be air-cooled because, as Hitler explained, not every country doctor had his own garage. (Ethylene glycol antifreeze was only just beginning to be used in high-performance liquid-cooled aircraft engines. In general, water in radiators would freeze unless the vehicle was kept in a heated building overnight or drained and refilled each morning.)[29]

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